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Due to recent YouTube crashes experienced on v13, I have opted to downgrade to v12 as my default-for-all.

I have successfully opened twenty YouTube tabs in v12 on XP SP2 x64 and on XP SP3 x86.  I have not tested on XP SP2 x86.

Download link  --  https://www.dropbox.com/s/2r7r53j4i55iuyw/360Chrome%2012.0.1247.zip

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3 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

Due to recent YouTube crashes experienced on v13, I have opted to downgrade to v12 as my default-for-all.

I have successfully opened twenty YouTube tabs in v12 on XP SP2 x64 and on XP SP3 x86.  I have not tested on XP SP2 x86.

Download link  --  https://www.dropbox.com/s/2r7r53j4i55iuyw/360Chrome%2012.0.1247.zip

Congratulations not a single crash on YouTube, I opened 9 tabs and everything works perfectly ... for the moment. This version 12.0.1247 is also faster.
I'm on x86 xp SP2 Pentium 4 to 3GHz, 2GB MEMORY, ATI AGP 8 X Graphics Card :thumbup

 

 

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Awesome!

Thanks for the feedback, I was very curious about XP SP2 x86.

I did benchmark tests on all of the v12's and specifically chose this one as my base for my new rebuild based on those benchmark results.

While it is one of the earlier versions of v12, none of the newer versions of v12 have a newer Chromium engine.

The newer versions of v12 only add "bloat" (same goes for newer versions of v13 as far as that goes), the underlying "engine" is as new as it gets for v12.

 

Another item to note when comparing v12 to v13 is that the Original Chinese, Russian Repack, my v13 releases, and @Humming Owl's v13 and v12 releases, the DNS over HTTPS (DoH) setting DOES NOT WORK (have only tested in XP).

Whether that option is checked or unchecked has no difference on your DNS queries (the option exists in early v12's but it is not selectable so I have removed/hidden it from the GUI in my build).

I don't use that "feature" by default anyway, but it was something that was observed when I was narrowing down what my next release was going to be based from.

The only test sites I could find were these (did not spend a huge amount of time hunting)  --  https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/encrypted-sni/ and https://1.1.1.1/help

You do need to set your DNS to 1.1.1.1 and the second link above showed no difference with the 360Chrome setting checked versus unchecked [did not test in Firefox as it too has a setting for DoH] (first link was not found until typing this post).

 

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4 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

DNS over HTTPS (DoH) setting DOES NOT WORK (have only tested in XP).

It doesn't work on Vista either and you know why ? Simply because it was removed from chrome somewhere around v82. There is no such flag anymore . Opera devs somehow managed to return the function back in the later Opera versions and it works , but 360 chinese "devs" didn't get it back ! I'm not suggesting that Opera is a good browser , just so you know , but it's a fact and the setting works. The flag name was  chrome://flags/#dns-over-https

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4 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

I don't use that "feature" by default anyway

And you're wrong , I think . American ISPs often sell DNS data to ad companies (it is not even forbidden to do so by the laws in the states, please prove that I'm wrong). So your ISP and other parties know all about sites you visit. On the other hand , using gurgle or crowdfare would be sharing that info with them . What's better ? 

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3 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

"extremism"

Wow , just wow ! Not wanting to share your personal data with ad companies considered to be extremist ? Sounds very dem./leftist.

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DO NOT label me a Dem / leftist !!!

Now then, "having said that"...

 

Not wanting to share personal data with ad companies is not in-and-of-itself "extremist".

I am 100% positive that my setup blocks 98%.

Bending over backwards for that extra 2%, yep, I'll label that as "extreme".

I do not own a horse and buggy and have no desire to live so "afraid" of GOOGLE and CLOUDFARE that I cannot even bring myself to spell them correctly  :whistle:

Signing out for a couple of days to avoid the "toxic mood", life really is too short.

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On 8/21/2021 at 11:05 PM, ArcticFoxie said:

I am 100% positive that my setup blocks 98%

Something to read before you go to sleep :

"There's even airlines (and many other service providers) who'll hijack your traffic and modify it to inject their own things:"

https://www.troyhunt.com/cloudflare-ssl-and-unhealthy-security-absolutism/

"An example of this is the Tunisian government's interception of the Facebook login page in 2011"

https://www.theregister.com/2011/01/25/tunisia_facebook_password_slurping/

"Russian Rostelecom Compromises Internet Traffic Through BGP Hijacking " MITM

https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/russian-rostelecom-compromises-internet-traffic-through-bgp-hijacking/

"The Man In The Middle Is Spying On You: How The NSA And Hackers Hijack Your Internet" MITM

https://www.ibtimes.com/man-middle-spying-you-how-nsa-hackers-hijack-your-internet-1481354

"Researchers suspect that ISPs used their ability to control user trafic and redirect users..."

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/isp-involvement-suspected-in-the-distribution-of-finfisher-spyware/

 
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Forgive the bluntness, but not interested.

All of these privacy concerns coming from a guy with an Instagram and Twitter account?

If these sort of things concerned me as much as you want us to think they do you, then I WOULD NOT OWN A COMPUTER as opposed to being a tech-savvy geeky dude with SEVEN of them.

I wish you the best, @Dixel.  But I find these conspiracies, KGB rants, anti-Russian, can't-spell-Google, can't-spell-Cloudfare views to be too extreme for my blood.

Maybe it's cultural and being from different countries?

Maybe it's the Instagram/Twitter persona that I've never been accustomed to?

No clue.  But anywhoo...

 

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On 8/23/2021 at 3:49 AM, ArcticFoxie said:

I wish you the best, @Dixel.  But I find these conspiracies, KGB rants, anti-Russian, can't-spell-Google, can't-spell-Cloudfare views to be too extreme for my blood.

Maybe it's cultural and being from different countries?

Maybe it's the Instagram/Twitter persona that I've never been accustomed to?

No clue.  But anywhoo...

Hi ! I shan't go off-topic discussing any cultural differences [because it has nothing to do with the browser duscussion and this question] , and I couldn't do so [even if I wanted to] , simply because I don't know your nationality. I mean nationality, not citizenship. I could only guess , though.

I wish you the same as you wished for me , of course (all the best, etc)! But the topic's question remains open. Why would they break this perfectly working function ? Actually , it was google's (spelled it right , for you) move to break it by removing it from the chrome's engine, see my comment above . So it is broken not only in 360 explorer !  I can only assume they did it to read user's DNS requests for the sake of spying and advertising and you always suggest these simple security topics to be "extreme" , why ? lol . I just gave you some articles to explain what this could/would mean . [unprotected DNS] . There are no "rants" here, lol. I'm a very calm person , you'd be surprised how calm ! Also , nothing "anti-Russian" (the articles were chosen to reflect cases in various countries), and even if it was (imagine for a second) , why would you be so worried about it ? 

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@ArcticFoxie, regarding your youtube crashes with this browser , found it for you , may wanna try this :

"Back in version 62 of Chrome, they added a feature they called Media Engagement Index (MEI), which keeps a log of how many times you actually click on video and audio on various sites. Once you’ve actually clicked on a video on a site a certain number of times, it AUTOMATICALLY DISABLES AUTOPLAY PROTECTIONS for that site. What’s worse than that, they preload a list of sites that get a free bypass of autoplay protections, which includes many porn sites. Deciding that they did such a good job with this feature, they then proceeded to remove the autoplay settings from the interface in the browser...."

Source :

https://www.symbolcrash.com/2021/01/24/disable-unmuted-autoplay-in-chrome-version-62-and-above/

--disable-features=PreloadMediaEngagementData,MediaEngagementBypassAutoplayPolicies,RecordMediaEngagementScores,RecordWebAudioEngagement

PreloadMediaEngagementData – Disabling this feature will disable the list of sites that Google has pre-determined should be able to bypass autoplay protections.

MediaEngagementBypassAutoplayPolicies – Disabling this feature disallows sites that you use regularly to bypass autoplay protections.

RecordMediaEngagementScores – Disabling this feature turns off the Media Engagement tracking altogether.

RecordWebAudioEngagement – Disabling this feature turns off the Media Engagement tracking for web audio.

Try enabling and disabling those features individually if you want to further tune this behaviour.

 
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