wimc Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Cannot recall the details of when I used Windows 10 (been quite awhile ago), that had me looking elsewhere, moved onto using Linux on it and not looking back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, win32 said: I meant the calc.exe provided with LTSB. It is the same one from Windows 7. I will try it tomorrow hopefully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudwS Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 12:51 AM, bookie32 said: Hi guys! Getting several friends harping on about how good LTSC is...?! Ok forgive me if I am stating the obvious....all of your attempts to remove Windows 10 of crap and they come with this version without a lot of the crap....?! Now that is funny....come on....it is hilarious.... As if that is going to make Windows 10 better......yes....I admit more usable but still crap from where I am standing...... Sorry I am a little late with this about LTSC....been busy all summer trying to get my cottage finished......lol bookie32 *********************** Good to hear from you. Just going along with Win 10 Pro Insider Previews for the fun of it. (Farm boy who shoveled a lot of crap years ago.) Latest chuckle was from a couple of releases ago which would not Restart or Shutdown. (Manual Power Off required.) A specific KB update fixed that minor issue of crap this week. Have a good feeling that more laughs will be coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erpdude8 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 here's a recent article from ZDNet titled "Why is Windows 10 a mess?" https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-is-windows-10-a-mess-ex-microsoft-engineer-blames-the-culture-of-made-men/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 - because nobody tests it right - because they have some agreement with US gov which goes both-ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasyAcquiesce Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Windows 10...I never liked the OS. Released unstable like early Vista, constant bloat like 98 to XP, and a horrid start menu. The total installation size for Windows 10 is also absurd compared to all other versions; ISOs for windows 10 are a couple gigabytes while a perfectly updated XP is less than ~700mb and fits on a CD. I've seen modded Windows 10 isos to find that even the smallest isos are 1.8gb. That's VERY tiny for Windows 10 especially. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie32 Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 11:30 PM, wimc said: Cannot recall the details of when I used Windows 10 (been quite awhile ago), that had me looking elsewhere, moved onto using Linux on it and not looking back. Tell us a bit more about your Linux flavour....;) bookie32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimc Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, bookie32 said: Tell us a bit more about your Linux flavour....;) bookie32 Used many distro's over the years and Bodhi Linux suited my needs in every way possible. This is on my primary PC(1). PC2 (much older computer) has Win XP Pro SP3 on it, is and always be XP. PC1 came with Windows 10, remember hated everything about it. Edited November 1, 2019 by wimc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie32 Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 hours ago, wimc said: Used many distro's over the years and Bodhi Linux suited my needs in every way possible. This is on my primary PC(1). PC2 (much older computer) has Win XP Pro SP3 on it, is and always be XP. PC1 came with Windows 10, remember hated everything about it. Like you have tested many but stick with Debian...hadn't heard about your one though....;) bookie32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 5:24 AM, ~♥Aiko♥Chan♥~ said: ISOs for windows 10 are a couple gigabytes while a perfectly updated XP is less than ~700mb and fits on a CD. I've seen modded Windows 10 isos to find that even the smallest isos are 1.8gb. That's VERY tiny for Windows 10 especially. actually whole NT6 line was plagued with this, but for a reason in short, all versions (SKU's) were installed on hard drive, all language packs, all components (SxS) so user didn't had to use installation DVD for things... but to surprise, i guarantee you that vista and win7 also fit on 700 MB CD with all updates and also if you manually remove from Install WIM, stuff that you really don't need as "power user", you can also shrink install size to ~1.5 GB (this is case for x86, trust me i done it ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasyAcquiesce Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 8 hours ago, vinifera said: actually whole NT6 line was plagued with this, but for a reason in short, all versions (SKU's) were installed on hard drive, all language packs, all components (SxS) so user didn't had to use installation DVD for things... but to surprise, i guarantee you that vista and win7 also fit on 700 MB CD with all updates and also if you manually remove from Install WIM, stuff that you really don't need as "power user", you can also shrink install size to ~1.5 GB (this is case for x86, trust me i done it ) The rest of the NT 6 series at least does its job properly Absurd how MS can screw up a perfectly good OS every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCyborg Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 hours ago, ~♥Aiko♥Chan♥~ said: The rest of the NT 6 series at least does its job properly Not really. Ran them all, they all have issues. 6 hours ago, ~♥Aiko♥Chan♥~ said: Absurd how MS can screw up a perfectly good OS every time. A perfectly good OS doesn't exist, not in objective sense at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 16 hours ago, ~♥Aiko♥Chan♥~ said: Absurd how MS can screw up a perfectly good OS every time. not absurd if they do it on purpose ... if they made a "perfectly good OS" they nobody would ever upgrade to next one 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCyborg Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) Updated from 17763.615 to 17763.832 and after booting into it I noticed several security settings were changed: Password must meet complexity requirements: Disabled -> Enabled Administrator and Guest accounts have been enabled Devices: Prevent users from installing printer drivers when connecting to shared printers: Disabled -> Enabled Interactive logon: Do not require CTRL+ALT+DEL: Not Defined -> Disabled Shutdown: Allow system to be shut down without having to log on (this one might have been changed too, not sure) Users group has lost the following rights: Change the time zone Remove computer from docking station Shut down the system Guest used to be present in the following rights assignments: Allow log on locally Deny log on locally (these two are conflicting, so I suppose the result is the same in the end after change) Deny access to this computer from the network This list is from my memory. Should cover at least 75% changes, I didn't note them down. All settings can be found by launching secpol.msc and navigating to Account Policies and Local Policies. I removed the old updates in from recovery environment with DISM in reverse order in which they were installed, including SSU update (have to modify some *.mum files to get it removed) and then installed the current ones. Did I do something wrong or do recent updates always change these things even if you do it the usual way? Nobody is talking about those as far as I'm aware of. Edited November 7, 2019 by UCyborg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudwS Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Welcome to the "Insider Preview" world. This is the "1809" world. These sorts of changes have been happening for a long time. Stay on Win 10 for more exciting happenings. What was that about the title here? Oh yes, "Worst Crap Ever." Some of us enjoy the comedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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