Read GPT hard disk on Windows XP (solved)

[Dietmar]

@reboot12

Hi Gelip,

does this mean, that I can make a try with my B860 DS3H board without any CSM,

to boot XP SP3 bit32 there

Dietmar

[reboot12]

1 hour ago, Dietmar said:

does this mean, that I can make a try with my B860 DS3H board without any CSM,

No. UEFI DUET32 is running from CSM mode. This is only boot support from GPT.

Unfortunately, on ASUS T100TAF with UEFI32 BIOS loader 5472 does not work - I do not know why - maybe because the eMMC disk is not supported?

[CRK]

even with paragon gpt loader issues exist, even with patched version, by default it has bugs, as documented here: http://hardwarefetish.com/?s=paragon

part1: http://hardwarefetish.com/524-paragon-gpt_loadersys-bsod-analysis-and-fix

part 2: http://hardwarefetish.com/612-gpt_loader-sys-revisited-file-read-problem

part 3: http://hardwarefetish.com/777-paragon-gpt-loader-3

at the end i believe the better idea seems to use HD not larger than 2 TB with XP x32 or migrate to newer OS´s

i have a 5 TB seagate separate into 2.x TB partitions , i have IDE mode to make sure the paragon drivers work , i notice when the partitions are getting full, data been copied gets corrupted, some data also been copied to external usb disk gets copied corrupted?  even if i performed a crc check and data between source and destination match , under windows 10 x64 files some don't open, some vids are filled with 0000 when checked them with hex editor, when connect same usb hard drive under XP everything works (all files ok) , when i boot a virtual OS like Mini windows 10 and copy the same files on external drive all file are OK for both os, XP and 10 , so don't know if this is matter of disk sectors 4k, 512 etc...but this is really strange for me, i believe using PAE or not this strange behavior exist, need to do more test.. i am about to migrate to 2 TB and just get rid of this paragon driver

 

btw i came here cos topic says (solved) could someone point me to the right direction ? what exactly is the solution to solve the issue? to use safely 5 - 6 or more TB on XP x86 ??'

Edited May 13 by CRK
better details

[Dave-H]

Be aware that hardwarefetish.com is blocked by my ISP as a malware/phishing site.
Proceed with great caution if you visit it!

[CRK]

16 hours ago, Dave-H said:

Be aware that hardwarefetish.com is blocked by my ISP as a malware/phishing site.
Proceed with great caution if you visit it!

i believe fortinet is triggering that false positive, it's a safe site....

[Dave-H]

OK, but I can't override the block.
As I said, those who can access it, proceed with caution!

[CRK]

10 minutes ago, Dave-H said:

OK, but I can't override the block.
As I said, those who can access it, proceed with caution!

use proxy, i visited this site before and did again to check any updates, nothing wrong with it

[Multibooter]

On 5/13/2025 at 9:53 PM, Dave-H said:

Be aware that hardwarefetish.com is blocked by my ISP as a malware/phishing site.
Proceed with great caution if you visit it!

You should be able to access the hardwarefetish.com pages via archive.org, e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/http://hardwarefetish.com/524-paragon-gpt_loadersys-bsod-analysis-and-fix

The info at hardwarefetish.com about Paragon GPT Loader seems reliable to me, the best info around. hardwarefetish.com is apparently the home site of "dose" [Austrian beer can? ] who prepared several bug fixes of GPT loader, long after Paragon gave up on it. This home page has apparently not been changed over from http to https, so that you may get an "Untrusted Connection" warning or 404 etc if you load it via https, e.g. https://hardwarefetish.com/

Edited May 17 by Multibooter

[Multibooter]

On 5/13/2025 at 5:14 PM, CRK said:

... at the end i believe the better idea seems to use HD not larger than 2 TB with XP x32 or migrate to newer OS´s

... i am about to migrate to 2 TB and just get rid of this paragon driver ... btw i came here cos topic says (solved)

In my view the topic is far from solved, but I am optimistic that eventually it may be solved. For example, what about using a GPT HDD >2TB with WinXP on a laptop computer?

[Dave-H]

14 hours ago, Multibooter said:

You should be able to access the hardwarefetish.com pages via archive.org, e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/http://hardwarefetish.com/524-paragon-gpt_loadersys-bsod-analysis-and-fix

The info at hardwarefetish.com about Paragon GPT Loader seems reliable to me, the best info around. hardwarefetish.com is apparently the home site of "dose" [Austrian beer can? ] who prepared several bug fixes of GPT loader, long after Paragon gave up on it. This home page has apparently not been changed over from http to https, so that you may get an "Untrusted Connection" warning or 404 etc if you load it via https, e.g. https://hardwarefetish.com/

Thanks, yes, I did access it through the Wayback Machine.
This is what I'm seeing if I try to access it normally -

As you can see, it's not a browser block or security software block, it's a block by the ISP at source, which I've very rarely seen!

 

[ruthan]

97I decide to give a shot GPT Loader with Windows 2000..- fully patched - Extended Kernel 3.1 but even without any GPT disk connected, reboot with and withou PAE always end with infamous 000*00x7B boot error.. Its on the Ivy Bridge machine with Intel 7x chipset in AHCI mode. Im using just Small 60 SSD with MBR, without loader its booting fine.

I can confirm that Paragon GPT Loader Worked fine with Marwell chip controller in XP as normal data drive for Dropbox, Developement, Work, Games etc, on drive bigger than 2 TB (because otherwise i had no any other reason to use it, im not big fan of EFI) - 3 TB or 4 TB one big NTFS.
   Yeah i never worked with Intel chipsets im not sure about Asmedias.
   I also can say that i used nore than 2 TB of data, because im usually out of disk scane.. I had 3TB+ unlock software from Gigabyte installed too, maybe it matters.. At the time there were such programs for reason, maybe some bug in Windows XP etc.
  https://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/us/microsite/276/3tb.html  on this list are only some chipsets, but when will search utilities for more modern MBs / chipset perphas you will find it too, i dont remember which chipset i had at the time maybe Z97 or some AMD Strange Triple core CPU supporting one..
  It claims this: Enables 32bit Systems without Hybrid EFI Technology to Utilize Unallocated Space on New 3TB+ HDDs. maybe that that mumbo / jumbo that you need. im not sure what EFI hybrid technology - non EFI / MBR? If its MBR it will not help with GPT disks just with bigger MBR ones, but only reason why i needed GPT was bigger than 2 TB disks support.. 
   Win10 / Linux are still fine with no EFI, im not sure about Hackinstosh, but Clover bootloader claims to be tool to run EFI on non EFI systems, seems to be still active (some file was yesterday updated) it should be also ok:
  https://github.com/CloverHackyColor/CloverBootloader 
 But a ew years ago Tonymac moved to different bootloader OpenCore..

   Marwell controller where integrated on some mainboards, but also had PCI-E varaints, i was allways quite happy with them, that i can say about Asmedia, SIL and others, i only vaguely remember that there was some hassle with them and Linux.

  I bought Paragon long time ago, im not sure if was using older version than probably -Paragon-197-PEE_WinInstallSNU_10.0.16.12944_000, its really shame that they integrated newer version in HDD Manager 15 and their support or online account not even anounced it  I paid small fortune for their products and contacted support about GPT loader issues, multiple times.. 

   Version number seems really strange if.. 8 > 10.. is newer / better.

 

Check this is seems to be alternative solution, its linked in links posted in this thread, but it seems that nobody dug into it:, its long and no pictures  or video
https://article-pchome-net.translate.goog/content-1324506-all.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=es&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Edited Friday at 09:35 PM by ruthan