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roytam1

My build of New Moon (temp. name) a.k.a. Pale Moon fork targetting XP

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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win32-git-20190427-3424afcca-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win64-git-20190427-3424afcca-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.5.0a2.win32-git-20190427-3424afcca-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.5.0a2.win64-git-20190427-3424afcca-xpmod.7z

Official repo changes since my last build:
- Issue #991 Part 1: Pale Moon (9a37ab727)
- Issue #991 Part 2: Basilisk (759132691)
- Issue #991 Part 3: Devtools (609a7215e)
- Issue #991 Part 4: Network and URILoader (c7796280a)
- Issue #991 Part 5: DOM and layout (1d0af8b59)
- Issue #991 Part 6: Services (2d3b7717a)
- Issue #991 Part 7: Toolkit Components (714e9c907)
- Issue #991 Part 8: Toolkit everything else (8757548a3)
- Pref try/catch block fixup. Tag #991. (40fc72376)
- Merge branch 'master' into default-pref (af7e140d4)
- Remove unused try/catch block. Tag #991. (21b4cb27c)
- Remove unused parameter from call (b73287811)
- Stop building /accessible unified and fix deprot. (32577bdb3)
- Merge pull request #1041 from Ascrod/default-pref (e0116ac2b)
- Handle URL token in a closer way to the CSS3 spec (d9137b4b7)
- Remove geo-specific search engine default preferences. Tag #245. (c78cd6fb9)
- Remove geoip lookup for search engine defaults. Tag #245. (60e283715)
- Remove browser.search.region usage. Tag #245. (a3a34dad1)
- Merge pull request #1047 from JustOff/PR_css3_url_token (550d87388)
- Version bump (bccf86a10)
- Fix variable used before being declared in UpdateUtils.jsm (bca1943ca)
- [PHOENIX] Fix missing default from lastSync in browser-syncui.js in Pale Moon and replace the tryblock in Basilisk (5d02c2207)
- Remove SecurityUI telemetry. (b10712de8)
- Issue #1049 - Show sync status via label of sync-button (ccd86d8c0)
- Merge pull request #1045 from ThosRTanner/patch-1 (864f1cfdb)
- Update platform version to reflect major changes in platform. (33ebc885e)
- Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP (1d7664d3a)
- Update Twemoji Mozilla COLR font to 0.4.0 (TweMoji v11.4.0) (7d61305b0)
- Merge pull request #1051 from adeshkp/remove-telemetry-security_ui (8bd7da130)
- Merge pull request #1048 from Ascrod/geodefaults (228e55129)
- Remove tests from search service (0c84220a4)
- Sort out search service (63295d008)
- Issue #1053 - Drop support Android and remove Fennec - Part 1a: Remove mobile/android (abe80cc31)
- Issue #1053 - Drop support Android and remove Fennec - Part 1b: Remove MOZ_FENNEC (325b204d2)
- [minor] Fix a variable name in Basilisk error page (2e781c998)
- Add application ID and widget toolkit placeholders to UpdateUtils.jsm (cb5d20deb)
- Don't use UpdateChannel.jsm in nsBlocklistService.js (a9ae19957)
- Use UpdateUtils in GMPInstallManager.jsm (c11a0b276)
- Remove UpdateChannel.jsm (9cf2c92c3)
- [PALEMOON] Remove errent extensions.blocklist.* from shared branding prefs (e86f0e555)
- Remove useless assert. Resolves #1055. (51af3decb)
- Merge pull request #1054 from adeshkp/patch-11 (ace7f20fa)
- Capture delayed events and cancel as necessary. (3424afcca)

My changes since my last build:
- nss: go back to 3.43 release (b314cfa40)
- a11y: fix build (2faa94fa0)
* since MCP deleted lots of files, this might affect Serpent's functionality of updating WE extension. please test and report if there is any irregularities.

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New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20190427-697f102-uxp-3424afcca-xpmod.7z
Browser-only Suite Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20190427-697f102-uxp-3424afcca-xpmod.7z

source patch (excluding UXP): https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/boc-uxp-src-xpmod-20190223.7z

Official repo changes since my last build:
- [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (4ceb85d)
- [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (cda8bd8)
- [NAVIGATOR] Fix about:sessionrestore (837c77d)
- [NAVIGATOR] Revert about:logopage (fa2551f)
- [COMM] get*pref has defaults now, use it (6a812b8)
- [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (e744c6c)
- [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (3fd3eeb)
- Issue #78 - Add signon.startup.prompt to avoid Master Password races (697f102)

For UXP changes please see above.

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Posted (edited)

I am pleased to now announce a single version of my browser installer that works on both Windows 2000 and Windows XP (And Later).
And yes, the server side is updated to include support for the latest browser versions.
As always get it here:
http://i430vx.strangled.net/files/XP/RoyTam Browser Installer.exe

 

Features coming soon:
-Firefox 45 support
-No deletion of the PREFS folder, for example for users of the UOC patch

As always, keep me informed on the features you want and any bugs you find. 

:)

Edited by i430VX
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On 4/25/2019 at 3:15 AM, c.lee said:

If you didn't know why did you bother responding? I was asking the person who would the most familar  with the code itself if he thought there would be problems with it running under WINE, not some useless, most likely Gnome 3 using, PC Gamer like you..

Ok, I just did a quick test of basilisk52-g4.1.win32-git-20190427-3424afcca-xpmod.7z on a usb flash drive with Knoppix 8.2 installed on it using WINE. Serpent/Basilisk ran fine under wine, but there were some "quirks" that showed up that I suspect has more to do with Knoppix's 8.2 GUI interacting with WINE than with either WINE's XP emulation or   Serpent/Basilisk running under it.Suspect I need to install and test Serpent/Basilisk on another Linux distro to be sure, but right now I'ld say Serpent/Basilisk runs almost as well under WINE as it does under Windows XP. Haven't  see any complaints about missing dll's or anything so far.

On 4/27/2019 at 3:23 AM, Alex654 said:

Why not just port Rust to XP? Everyone would benefit from that.

Are you serious? You've got people running away on non-xp platforms because of Rust and other Mozilla Browser nonsense. Have you not been paying attention to what's going on?

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Posted (edited)

I have just encountered my third Windows XP user using your builds asking for information and support. WILL YOU PLEASE STOP REPRESENTING YOUR PROJECTS AS MINE. Create your own branding or end your foolish projects.

 

Do this or I will revoke the repository again and start rewriting major parts of it as proprietary software.

Edited by Matt A. Tobin

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13 minutes ago, Matt A. Tobin said:

WILL YOU PLEASE STOP REPRESENTING YOUR PROJECTS AS MINE. Create your own branding or end your foolish projects.

Changing the contents of "About Serpent" not to point to you in anyway (except as a credit, maybe) would suffice as a 1st step?

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See Matty Tobin and Moon Marcus refuse to realize that they are serving customers.  Customers as such ask the same questions over and over again - they just do.  Politely just tell them that we ("we" being you two Moon-Matt, of course) don't support Roytam1 builds, but here's the link to MSFN where you can find out more.  See how easy that is???

But alas, there's one big BIG problem with this - it required being "nice".  I know that this is something that Moon-Matt have some difficulty with.  Just practice.  Nice - there you go!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Matt A. Tobin said:

I have just encountered my third Windows XP user using your builds asking for information and support. WILL YOU PLEASE STOP REPRESENTING YOUR PROJECTS AS MINE. Create your own branding or end your foolish projects.

 

Do this or I will revoke the repository again and start rewriting major parts of it as proprietary software.

Karma's a b***h isn't she? Learn to live with her dude.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Matt A. Tobin said:

WILL YOU PLEASE STOP REPRESENTING YOUR PROJECTS AS MINE.

I'm not intended to do so. I don't use offended/official branding, and my builds don't have "--enabled-official" compile time option enabled. but if there is any place that shows your names when "--enabled-official" compile time option IS NOT USED, we can work together and warp them with #ifdefs?

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1 hour ago, dencorso said:

Changing the contents of "About Serpent" not to point to you in anyway (except as a credit, maybe) would suffice as a 1st step?

Nah. He would then cry about Basilisk not getting the credit he thinks it deserves. For some reason Tobin can't deal with Serpent being a fork of Basilisk.

We saw pretty much the same thing in Linux when MATE split away from Gnome.

 

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If name suggestions for the browser fork are being accepted, mine would be Bliss Moon and Blissilisk after the iconic wallpaper. :cool: #SorryNotSorry

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3 hours ago, Matt A. Tobin said:

I have just encountered my third Windows XP user using your builds asking for information and support. WILL YOU PLEASE STOP REPRESENTING YOUR PROJECTS AS MINE. Create your own branding or end your foolish projects.

 

Do this or I will revoke the repository again and start rewriting major parts of it as proprietary software.

So much for the "more constructive approach." I had a feeling this was insincere. :rolleyes:

roytam1 has no control over the actions of those who decide to use his XP-compatible builds. Even if he were to change names, remove references, yada yada yada. there could still be "ignorant" users (or even troublemakers just trolling) who will keep going to the wrong places for support or to ask questions. How hard is it to say "I don't support those builds" and link them here? Much easier than ranting there, ranting here, and rewriting a bunch of code. :whistle:

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Posted (edited)

@roytam1 <--

Maybe RT could upload and list some 'clickable' HTML files that (aim/open) reference
this MSFN.org Support Thread. For the BNAVIGATOR Browser, for download here:

https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/

(Added: At above URL -- RT did add a 'clickable' reference that opens THIS Support Thread.
And makes clear that RT 'XP OS' Browsers are NOT Supported by PALE MOON in any way.)

You could upload these four HTML files to URL above, naming them:

bnaa1--CLICK-For-BNavigator-Browser-SUPPORT-Forum-(MSFN.org).html
bnaa2--PALE-MOON-Forum-does-NOT-SUPPORT-the-BNavigator-Browser.html
bnzz1--PALE-MOON-Forum-does-NOT-SUPPORT-the-BNavigator-Browser.html
bnzz2--CLICK-For-BNavigator-Browser-SUPPORT-Forum-(MSFN.org).html

Under a 'NAME' Sort, these HTML files would list TOP and BOTTOM,
bracketing the dated 'bnav' Browser files (versions).

http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser

RT could also make similar HTML 'CLICK' additions at the above URL.
This is something that could be done fairly quickly, as a response to Mr. Tobin.
And It would show that RT is 'doing something' to minimize the problem
of any CONFUSION that the RT 'BNAV' Browser is associated with PALE MOON Browser.
NOT saying this is a full solution, just a possible reasonable suggestion for consideration.

Feedback --> "It's a two-way street ... "
I knew that!  ;)

Edited by TechnoRelic
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10 hours ago, TechnoRelic said:

@roytam1 <--

Maybe RT could upload and list some 'clickable' HTML files that (aim/open) reference
this MSFN.org Support Thread. For the BNAVIGATOR Browser, for download here:

https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/

You could upload these four HTML files to URL above, naming them:


bnaa1--CLICK-For-BNavigator-Browser-SUPPORT-Forum-(MSFN.org).html
bnaa2--PALE-MOON-Forum-does-NOT-SUPPORT-the-BNavigator-Browser.html
bnzz1--PALE-MOON-Forum-does-NOT-SUPPORT-the-BNavigator-Browser.html
bnzz2--CLICK-For-BNavigator-Browser-SUPPORT-Forum-(MSFN.org).html

Under a 'NAME' Sort, these HTML files would list TOP and BOTTOM,
bracketing the dated 'bnav' Browser files (versions).

http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser

RT could also make similar HTML 'CLICK' additions at the above URL.
This is something that could be done fairly quickly, as a response to Mr. Tobin.
And It would show that RT is 'doing something' to minimize the problem
of any CONFUSION that the RT 'BNAV' Browser is associated with PALE MOON Browser.
NOT saying this is a full solution, just a possible reasonable suggestion for consideration.

The only confusion that exits is in your's and Tobin's head. No one else is confused by anything.

If Tobin can't post in *BIG BOLD LETTERS ON HIS WWW PAGE THAT WE DO NOT SUPPORT XP- COMPATIBLE  BUILDS OR ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OTHER THAN OUR OWN* for every one to see that's *HIS* problem-no one elses.

You really have to wonder if Tobin and those who support him know what an disclaimer is.....

 

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Posted (edited)

So the confusion doesn't exist except that users are confused and coming to me. Look, I am simply tired of explaining it. I shouldn't HAVE to disclaim downstream projects or explain to user after user how what they are running isn't my project.

You want constructive? Well how about providing a real website, real branding, and real support venues and making it clear that the projects are NOT related to their upstream. Instead of this smattering of low level fragmented non-efforts provided thus far..

I had no intention of returning back here but your users are confused and bothering me. So this becomes your problem.

BUT if you think it will help.. Here: http://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/#faq

Edited by Matt A. Tobin

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