DrWho3000 Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 hopefully we won't have to rely on the engine, if the update def files works and MSE scans ok and well
Dave-H Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 Of course the danger is that eventually MSE will stop working again because the engine will be deemed to be too out of date!
DrWho3000 Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 how long is it before MSE will complain IDE's are out of date before needing a update again could we say leave it 2-3 or even 4 days ?
dencorso Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 More than one day for sure, but I don't remember just now for how many days... that's documented somewhere, though, if MS didn't take it down, yet.
3dreal Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 Microsoft Security Essentials( MSE) for Winxp: No more updateS since quite a long time. Only free solution: Clamwin. The addon-Software Clamsentinel i removed since too much false positive. one must adjust this. e.g.. irfanview plugins a lot of them were blocked! So remove MSE and install Clamwin. At least true for Winxp SSE. What is working on Winxp SSE2 i cannot answer now since other PC must be setup again.
Mathwiz Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 I used to use ClamWin. It wasn't bad; my only complaint was, it's only an on-demand scanner (like MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware Free). So you have to schedule a scan every day, and there's still a chance malware could get into your system and do a lot of damage before the scan caught it. I think MSE is one of only a few free real-time AV products left for XP. That's why we're jumping through hoops trying to keep it alive. 1 hour ago, DrWho3000 said: how long is it before MSE will complain IDE's are out of date before needing a update again There have been occasional outages before, and IIRC it takes 3 days before the systray icon turns yellow. So you could update every other day and never see the yellow icon.
dencorso Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, 3dreal said: Microsoft Security Essentials( MSE) for Winxp: No more updateS since quite a long time. How so? What do you think this very thread is all about? So long as there are working virus definitions, the rest's just fireworks.
Dave-H Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 Just to confirm what we already know, I noticed this in my Windows System event log from my earlier attempts to use the later engine file - Microsoft Antimalware has encountered an error trying to load signatures and will attempt reverting back to a known-good set of signatures. Signatures Attempted: Current Error Code: 0x800700c1 Error description: Microsoft Antimalware is not a valid Win32 application. Signature version: 1.293.45.0;1.293.45.0 Engine version: 1.1.15900.4 And - Microsoft Antimalware has encountered an error trying to update the engine. New Engine Version: 1.1.15900.4 Previous Engine Version: 1.1.15800.1 Engine Type: Antimalware User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Error Code: 0x8007007f Error description: The specified procedure could not be found. 1
heinoganda Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 Will publish a customized MSE Updater, but this means that the mpengine.dll would remain at the state of version 1.1.15800.1. A test with the Eicar test virus has been positive with the most recent virus definition. In how far this will affect more recent virus definitions in the future, I can not foresee. The fact is that in future vulnerabilities or functional extensions in the file mpengine.dll no update is possible. There are still some tests needed in the next few hours and if they go well I will publish the updated MSE Updater. 2
3dreal Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/16/2016 at 12:45 PM, ND22 said: Then I got a serious problem here! On 3 different systems with XP and MSE 4.4 I got the same message! I am going do download MBAM to do a complete scan! Thank you anyway. There is a workaround with hotfix for MBAM latest xp-version2.21. 1043. for SSE-winxp. . 2.18 and above related. i have the instructions. they are their forum.
3dreal Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 I am trying out Emet 41u1. advised from palemoon/newmoon-people. i am leaving it alone now.
Mathwiz Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 I think a batch file like this will get me by for a few days: @echo off net stop MsMpSvc echo Please ignore "At Risk" pop-up from Microsoft Security Essentials while the latest definitions are being installed cd %TEMP% if not exist mpam-fe.exe "%ProgramFiles%\HTTPSProxy\wget.exe" -O mpam-fe.exe http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/^?LinkID=121721^&clcid=0x409^&arch=x86^&eng=0.0.0.0^&avdelta=0.0.0.0^&asdelta=0.0.0.0^&prod=EDB4FA23-53B8-4AFA-8C5D-99752CCA7094 cd "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Definition Updates\Updates" "%ProgramFiles%\7-zip\7z.exe" x -y "%TEMP%\mpam-fe.exe" *.vdm del "%TEMP%\mpam-fe.exe" net start MsMpSvc 7-Zip and wget required. Note: this is specific to my system; you'll probably need to adjust some path names, depending on where 7-Zip and wget live on your own systems. 1
dencorso Posted April 25, 2019 Posted April 25, 2019 Good! Here's a slightly more generic version of it. As before 7-Zip and wget required and one'll probably need to adjust some path names, depending on where 7-Zip and wget live on your own systems. In my system wget.exe is on the environment PATH, so no explicit path is needed. @echo off pushd %temp% if not exist mpam-fe.exe start /wait wget -O mpam-fe.exe http://definitionupdates.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/x86/mpam-fe.exe "%ProgramFiles%\7-zip\7z.exe" x -y "mpam-fe.exe" *.vdm net stop MsMpSvc move *.vdm "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Definition Updates\Updates" net start MsMpSvc del mpam-fe.exe popd Notice please it's a .cmd, I don't remember whether pushd/popd work OK with .bat extension...
Mathwiz Posted April 25, 2019 Posted April 25, 2019 On 4/24/2019 at 6:48 AM, DrWho3000 said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClamWin_Free_Antivirus it doesnt rank very good 43/55 To be fair, that was in 2009. I haven't seen a recent ranking; it may have improved since then.
heinoganda Posted April 25, 2019 Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Microsoft Security Essentials Definition Updater update to version 1.7 Adjustment for support end of MSE Edited April 30, 2019 by heinoganda 1
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