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This is 3rd new system I bought way back. It came with a temp restore DVD that put everything back without questions or driver installs you could see on 1st start up, but it had a limit for how long it could be used, for I was to be sent the normal Restore CDs. but never got them. When the time ran out on the dvd I started the hardware up grades. I replaced the bios with a bios from HP that was for same mother board but allowed 512mb ram, only 256mb with etower, and the CPU upgrade to a 1.4GHZ.

Now to the present. Found the Restore CDs on ebay but with HP bios, no install? At start of restore on bottom of screen it said a shift F8 would single step you thru the restore and with a yes or no you could do a step or not. I passed over the test to see if this system was a 633id and then with a Ctrl C droped out of the restore to dos on a Ram floppy A: Now from DOS started GHOST.exe which put the system back as I had bought it.

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Part 2. I have much 98, me, software I could now install after the upgrades and fixes were installed. With Photoshop Elements and Album 2.0 from GOODWILL store for $2.99, problems. They could not set up the .psa files, storage for pictures, saying it could not find the Microsoft Access Driver for the .mdb file??? I am a very poor software person and had to dig on the net to find out what was wrong. I found that .psa and .mdb were the same and MS OFFICE had this MS access driver? WHAT? Also on line it talked about a JET40sp8_wme that could fix cant find driver? WHAT? I made a GHOST backup of what I had so far and then installed JET40sp8_wme

It worked, Photoshop Elements and Album 2.0 now ran fine? ANY HELP ON WHAT JUST HAPPENED? With ccleaner there is now a small mess in the REGISTRY that was not present before the JET40sp8_wme was installed?

 

EDIT

Just found on the net that JET40sp8_wme from microsoft site is Microsoft Access Driver for the .mdb file.

That brings a new question, why was it not in the updates I did? Not many programs use it?

MS SITE

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/829558

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Does the installation of Win-98 on an unremarkable old computer qualify as a Windows 9x Member Project?

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Does the installation of Win-98 on an unremarkable old computer qualify as a Windows 9x Member Project?

If it needs to be moved to another section, please do.

Had some questions on this one, some problems.

 

Another unit in a Apevia X Trooper 5 fan case that runs at room temp with a MS-7101 motherboard with a 775 type cpu, a 651 3.4ghz, with 1mb ram with lite windows ME and a linux Firefox, ver 33.1,  browser had no problems except motherboard was in a pile dead, most of the caps were shot. so I had to replace the caps. So I did not need help on this one.

I am on this one now.   (http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/865GM3-V_%28MS-7101_V2.0%29.html)

 

I have 50 systems and some to old to slow, with cases that only take one type of motherboard, that need WIN ME or linux or to be put in trash. The I/O plate on these does not remove its part of the case so some unremarkable old computers need help. ( yes the 633id I/O plate can be changed)

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Does the installation of Win-98 on an unremarkable old computer qualify as a Windows 9x Member Project?

No one complained when I posted Project Shiva. :whistle:

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Does the installation of Win-98 on an unremarkable old computer qualify as a Windows 9x Member Project?

 

I really don't see why it wouldn't. Moreover, the reviving of older or otherwise decommissioned machines is always an interesting topic.

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Like an old HP Netserver (maxed @1gbRAM, but need a pair of faster CPU's, now @2x550PIII-Slot) or an old HP Pavilion 4453 (maxes at 768mbRAM, but only have 2x256+1x128 atm). Both currently running XP but soon to be dual-booted to 98SE for old kids games. BTW, I cross-flashed the Pav to its real ASUS P5S-VM BIOS (hot-swap) - a really fun stunt. Somewhere I logged the procedure, but :unsure: where. If anyone needs the help to pull it off, say so and I'll search the guts of my HDD's. Sadly, thee -is- no BIOS update for the Netserver - unique to HP. :(

I managed a couple of these a few years back and if I recall the fastest offical CPU supported
 by HP was the Slot1 600mhz 512k cache P3's (100mhz bus).

I believe and if you scrounge the HP support forums you'll find out, that some people with the latest BIOS have managed to get 700mhz and 750mhz CPU's running successfully on them.
Still, it's hella fast for it's age with XP (*real* dual CPU's).

 

BTW, I had a couple of older eTowers so I may have some drivers if you haven't found them all. But then again, you've already managed to do a Restore. :thumbup

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> > Does the installation of Win-98 on an unremarkable old computer qualify as a Windows 9x Member Project?

>

> I really don't see why it wouldn't.

It was my impression that "Member Projects" are efforts and works that could be used by many (or most, or all) win-9x users. Such as KernelEx, various update packages, etc.

And that troubleshooting or problem solving or system-specific questions or observations happened in the main forum.

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I didn't see anyone asking for help, just informing of a process to revive an old PC.

 

IMHO, this would constitute a "Member Project" to be shared with anyone that has same/similar hardware as a "how-to".

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No one complained when I posted Project Shiva. :whistle:

 

Well, this omission can be easily fixed. :yes:

 

Why the heck Trip is allowed to post  "Project Shiva" here? :unsure::

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/142204-project-shiva/

but, much more than that, why is he allowed to not merge his own posts? :w00t:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/173051-kb3000850-big-update-windows-812/?p=1089342

and use the thread "as twitter"?

 

:lol: :whistle:

 

jaclaz

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I didn't see anyone asking for help ....

I found that .psa and .mdb were the same and MS OFFICE had this MS access driver? WHAT?

Also on line it talked about a JET40sp8_wme that could fix cant find driver? WHAT?

I made a GHOST backup of what I had so far and then installed JET40sp8_wme It worked, Photoshop Elements and Album 2.0 now ran fine?

ANY HELP ON WHAT JUST HAPPENED?

Just found on the net that JET40sp8_wme from microsoft site is Microsoft Access Driver for the .mdb file.

That brings a new question, why was it not in the updates I did? Not many programs use it?MS SITE

Yea, I guess you're right. I don't see anyone asking for help...

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Those are mainly rhetoric questions, just to keep the text flowing... some'll be answered further on by the author, others will remain unanswered, without compromising the intelligibility or usefulness of the content.

 

Now, a real help request would be something like: "No matter what I do I keep getting BSOD's or black screens!!! Heeeeeeeelllppp!"

 

So, I do agree with submix8c.

 

@Nomen: Then again, I guess you've succeeded in derailing the thread and alienating the OP... are you happy now?

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Yeah, they didn't say where to get this at all.

 

Just found on the net that JET40sp8_wme from microsoft site is Microsoft Access Driver for the .mdb file.

They solved *their* problem, so what's *your* problem, Nomen?

 

Here, I'll help you both out.

 

I have much 98, me, software I could now install after the upgrades and fixes were installed.

Where did you get the upgrades and fixes? They're obviously incomplete. (see next quote).

 

EDIT

Just found on the net that JET40sp8_wme from microsoft site is Microsoft Access Driver for the .mdb file.

That brings a new question, why was it not in the updates I did? Not many programs use it?

MS SITE

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/829558

That one's obsolete. If you had gotten (e.g.) Autopatcher there a sveral files in there to update OLE/MSJET.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837001

The NT4 one is in the Autopatcher package (perfectly suitable for 98/ME AFAIK, apparently) and is a complete replacement for KB829558. See the Technet link inside. Here's the NT4 one that's in Autopatcher.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7147

 

Now, as for "needing help", I guess since it's "fixed" you don't really need help, *but* you might inform us of where you got your "upgrades/fixes". The only ones I'm aware of is the Autopatcher (contains unofficial updates) and the Unofficial 98SESP3.

 

If there is an *insistence* that this Topic doesn't belong here, then it needs moved. Also, Trip needs to remove his entirely, right?

(wow!)

 

=edit= As a side note, $2.99 seems to be one heck of a deal. See this 2004 thread for the price back then.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/7710334

 

=edit2= Oddly, it appears that the Photoshop *Album* v2.0 is (theoretically) incompatible with Win98.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/SOFT/PA2/PA2.HTM

http://www.adobe.com/uk/support/downloads/psa2se_download.html

Only for Windows ME and up? :huh:

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As far as I can recall Photoshop Album crashed my Windows ME system so badly that I removed it permanently a few days after install.

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