TranceEnergy

This is probably not the place to post this, but I would be interested in making a graphical update pack to xp x64, but i've constantly checked on xpize and there's no x64bit support because they dont have the required software sources or something like that to make it happen. It would be neat if i could make custom icons and all for it and was hoping possibly there could be some tools to assist in this task? edit: I did a test in vmware earlier today, and when having installed a *very* lite, tho still usuable x64 with only updates being ie7 as far as hotfixes are concerned, i was able to leave out a few hotfixes, this i tested, among them was 180-IE7-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB938127-x64-ENU.exe, However, i had removed lots from image. I just thought it would be neat if a small comment could be made that, especially true for example outlook express, that if you remove such stuff you may not need the hotfix. Saved me another 17mb compressed on iso =) Also i was searching for nlite addon maker tool, because i wanted to make addon of latest amd dual core optimizer. Knowing you also have amd Kurt, perhaps you know of such tool. I found one version of Amd DCO nlite addon, but it was from 2006, and not current version AFAIK. One more thing, trying to do a silent install of dotnetfx, .net framework 1.1 clean from ms, with /Q doesnt work as quietly as it does show the warning message that it wasnt made for x64 OS. The .net 1.1 service pack and hotfix work just fine with /Q parameters. Would be neat if there was a way around this.. I would also like to see that you include a comment about .net 3.5's parameter for language install. If i , also tested, runs without it and have help service etc, languages intact it installs norwegian language pack here, at least if internet connection is active. Very annyoing for me. It should default to lang:enu as that would skip any language pack installation. Less bloat is good.

I have successfully forced system into stuttering when playing back video. I managed to get system stuttering when compressing a 10GB+ vista image at 500 000+ files, while installing server 2008 uncchanged in Vmware, and utilizing 400 connections in utorrent, and upgrading firmware on my dvd burner while also playing back 1080dp movie. Since Vlite (and its pkg manager) only utilizes 1 cpu core, no matter if u got a quad even!, everything ocurred one 1 cpu core. However, having both MMCS and WAPB service enabled and active doesnt help stuttering at all. In fact, disabling/enabling the WAPB service is where i could notice difference, as audio volume was lowered, and latency of sound increased a bit. Also DPC latency checker gave them thumbs down. So for me it doesnt help having these services enabled, infact it increased stuttering, plus the difference from having WAPB service disabled is so refreshing in regard to system delay of sound. On a sidenote, starting up quake 3 at dedicated on core 1 (or core "2" if u will, cores are counted from 0,1,2,3 for a quad), went happily along with it when extra audio services disabled. Definitively keeping them off here.

I think cable loco is referring to registry changes to stop/disable the services. But you must also remove the dependencies in order for everyything to work, that is sound. If you are running overclocked system and reporting things dont work, you shouldnt do that. A system can be prime stable 3dmark stable etc even if its overclocked, doesnt mean it will run perfect in every way.

Perfect! What kind of board is that? New or old?

I don't understand to what end? What would be the purpose?

If people are using a product such as nlite and removing things, they shouldn't need babysitting on what they should and should not do. Can we agree on this? Being told what to do on your own windows installation, unless you ask for help, is rude. Is it not ? Anyone sane would agree with this.Tho its ok if you are not and still agrees with it. All threadstarter asks for is help finding some tweak to do what he wants to do. Instead, it's being debated wheter or not he should do it. WHY do you care whether or not what he does to his windows installation? Are you going to cry if he gets a bsod? No? I thought so. No sorry for Off topic, but plz, try to help people with what they want, not what YOU think they should do. Getting rid of a file that can take up gigabytes just sitting there on c:\, who wouldnt like to get rid of it? Well wouldnt' anyone of us? It's anyone's decision to do as they wish, as long as they dont bring harm to others, i couldnt be happier. Do what you want, i really dont care.

That works quite nice, ive done it. However, only as an experiment, usually have it always disabled/deleted. Photoshop absolutely loves having temp space on ramdisk. But no one who isnt capable of tweaking windows right should run windoze wo pagefile. Generally a small pagefile at least 400/800mb pagefile is ok. I however, disable it always.

I see you have that ctfmon.exe running there, that nlite tweak hasn't worked for me at least since forever. Dont know if you enabled it, but i always have to go in and disable everything there.

I've runned windows for the last 8 years without a page file. Windows suggest i enable a 12GB pagefile when all my paging is yet going to ram so to speak. If you have enough ram, have the right tweaked out setup, knock yourself out. If you need error reporting and saving bluescreens and such, keep it. Personally i'd recommend starting with having at least either a 16 mb one or 400/800mb (depending on what windows version) and see if it ever asks for more. Do this after you have tweaked windows right, if goal is to have no pagefile but u want to be sure u can get rid of it on your current install.

So did you get it working now? I came over this link explaining .msu extraction. Perhaps worth a look. Portable firefox, loads very slow, but for me it's a life saver. I can reinstall and do whatever i need, always have same bookmarks, extensions and what not. A must have for me. Ie is ok, but it's too much integrated in the os that i cant stand it. For me it's like asking for trouble. However, if you'r in for a fun experiment on day, you should try to get hold of a portable firefox and some ramdisk software. Then install the piclens plugin there. If you have a fast connection you will go over any gallery in notime. Surfing is absolutely instant then. Ramdisk is brilliant for cache btw. Off topic but..

If this is causing you stuttering, can i ask what cpu you have? You might want to check into tweaking critical worker threads, i use the maximum, that is safely known as 16. Its 0 at default, which either means 0 or automatic, lol. There are many things that could cause stuttering, but just because these two services are disabled/removed, i dont think necessarily that is the culprit. Vista is a bloody all purpose thing. I went into the Group Policy editor and came across the hybrid disk cache settings. As i dont have any SSD disks, i disabled the whole lot, and enjoyed a little bit faster boot =) Thank you for trying this folks, much appreciated! ;D

I had a D-Link router connected to my adsl modem, didnt work good at all. Ended up buying a cheap linksys wag200g, works miracles, but isn't good at lots of LAN copying, but for wireless home usage and such, its perfect. Perhaps you could see for any error msgs in Event viewer, you're not giving us much to work with..

Thanks, i came over a good article on the whole driver checking ordeal. MS is of course trying to stop it as it did with xp's service pack. I didnt like the Ready Plus method and the test mode seems kinda obscure. What to do, what to do. Anyway, i uninstalled it now, going to check if the uninstaller did its job ok. Removed the "re-enable uac prompt" that is inside the uninstall patch.bat file, before i runned it. http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/02/26/u...-bit-vista-x64/ Considering that the limit was 65536 in XP gold, and then reduced to 10, it makes you wonder..

Ok, im gonna install it then =)

I've been downloading some torrents lately with lots of seeders and leechers. Every time i tried surfing online at the same time, with 20mbit connection, i got disconnected. And tons of them errors msgs in event viewer. Definitively giving this a go. edit: I spoke to soon perhaps " To use this driver you must press F8 at every Windows boot load. Then, in the boot menu, choose the option to disable driver signature. Vista will now boot successfuly." Do you guys have to press f8 at every boot? That's just insane =)

Hey Kurt. On the booogy website there's a link to all wmp hotfixes, about 10-12 that works fine to integrate. How come you only link to 4 of them? Or is it that the rest is just bloat? I dont know really.

Perfect! Thank you so much for this link!

Whenever i get an error like that in vmware, i have set the driver to scsi or something, not IDE, + i also typicall removed scsi drivers, lol. Having said that, When i activated AHCI support in bios and installed vista with it enabled, and then installed the ATI chipset drivers, including the disk drivers, it also accessed the Promise controller drivers, it said it was installing them. That didnt make sense to me at the time, havent bothered with ahci since, so didnt actually found out why it did. I just assumed it needed some information or what not, and since everything worked, i went on with life.

You could consider removing the big stuff to at least slim the size of the iso down. But if you simply disable/deactivate services inside vista, you will be just fine performance wise with that computer you got. Windows search, languages you dont want, sample media, perhaps screensavers? Everything can be vital at some point, so nothing can really safely be removed, you will be able to remove most things in vlite without losing too much functionality. Keeping IE core services, task scheduler, windows managment instrumentation, stuff like that you shouldnt touch. Information on vista services you can read on black viper's site, eldergeek, tweakhound etc. Not much of an answear, but truth be told, it would take a lot of time to figure out what would fit you perfectly, anyone for that matter.

Support for having all languages and having all languages integrated is a bit different You could'nt use the single service pack exe version instead of downloading the entire iso? I'm downloading it now to see if i understand you.

If you click Option inside Vlite you can see that you can enable/disable saving the preset inside the iso/folder.

The APIs and imaging subsystem have changed, to a point where vendors writing drivers for 10 year old hardware originally designed for Win9x and *maybe* Win2K cannot honestly be expected to (at their cost) write a Vista driver and still consider it fiscally responsible for the bottom line and for shareholders. True, if cost were no option (i.e. Linux drivers) I'd expect vendors to write drivers ad nauseum, but they're in it to sell hardware or software, and writing (good) drivers takes time, money, and dev cycles better spent on product development. As long as vendors are writing Windows drivers, there will be a cut off point. I'm not saying that i disagree with it at all. In fact i actually think it's the right way to do it. And not that i'm not an nostalgic person either. I love seeing progress and if i could choose they would go 64bit all the way with vista, but at least 64bit popularity is increasing, but it could have gone faster. I don't really see much point with a 32bit version of vista, unless you vlite it away Anyway, on topic, i'd try to set timings to manual, i believe i have said that in about 10 posts today. =)

So i gather you now only need the extraction of the cab and you'r more or less good to go? I'm more firefox myself, but ie8 might also update other system files used by other applications. So its definitively a step forward

I tried universal extractor on random some days ago, it did the job on .cab files from exe's. Also you could maybe get it out with 7zip. If not there's probably some tool from the windows automated installation kit, phew, iso package u could use. Not into that myself. Good job!

My point is that it will prolly work for most modern hardware and perhaps not for legacy hardware. This is internet, and that you can say that i have a tone is to put it mildly a bit weird, all language barriers put aside, considering not even that. If you are not used to discussing things openly and don't like it that i can show readers that it indeed does work to disable the wapb service as well, so that other people can get a system more to their liking, then nor do i understand you. Disabling both services works for me and only difference so far from what i have experienced is that the sound enviroment effects are gone. However all the other effects are still useable, not that i use them anyway.Why you think i am being hostile, instead of excited is far beyond me.There's a difference you know. Legoliam: Good for you. Talking about how much harddrive space you have is ok i guess. edit: it's kinda disappointing you couldnt see that i'm simply happy for nailing one more service on the removal list. On what possible grounds should i be hostile for? Also for those of you experiencing problems with audio sound after or before even dealing with audio services, try and run DPC Latency checker to see whether or not your system has dpc problems, which could be a part of the problem with audio 'tickles' and such.