Dave-H

I'm not sure why you would need to format using Windows 7. I have Windows XP and Windows 98SE running on a partitioned SSD and I formatted it (FAT32 of course) using Windows 98SE as I've always done! I did try the Naraeon TRIM program mentioned earlier in the thread, but it doesn't actually support my SSDs, which are all Seagate ones. It may be OK with yours though. Although I have Windows 10 on the machine as well, it won't TRIM FAT32 volumes, so I actually trim the FAT32 SSDs using RLoew's DOS TRIM tool!

I got four this morning, KB2589339, KB4462229, KB4461626, and KB4018363. Office is still working, but KB4462174 is still being shown as a hidden critical update. I guess that means that the faulty MSO.DLL hasn't been replaced with a working one. We'll see what happens next Tuesday!

I'm still puzzled here, what exactly is Windows Photo Viewer/Windows Picture Viewer? I don't have anything called either of those names on either of my XP installations. Is it a built-in Microsoft program?

I use Windows Search 4.0 on both my XP installations, with the traditional Search Companion re-enabled as I prefer it to the Windows Search 4.0 one, and yes, on one of them Rover still struts his stuff!

It's version 7.1.0.9, which was the very last version released by Qualcomm. If you put the Eudora folder from the zip file into your Program Files folder, does it not run?

Thanks @jumper I assume you mean the lite version of Eudora? If so, did you download my full Eudora installation here? That should be the whole program folder, which should work, including all the plugins. I have of course removed all my mailboxes and account information. Cheers, Dave.

Hi guys. Just wondering, is anyone still looking into this, or has everyone decided that it's actually unfixable? Just as an aside, there is a delay displaying those Sky e-mails with Eudora when running it on Windows 10, but it's a matter of a few seconds, not the 10 seconds or so that happens in XP. Cheers, Dave.

Yes, all fine for me too, apart from the ongoing Office 2010 problem of course!

Which Photo Viewer is now broken? Windows Live Photo Gallery is still working for me, if that's what you meant.

I was quite seriously told by someone to get off a forum because I was a danger to everyone on the internet because I was still using XP, and that was four years ago!

Thanks again guys! I really appreciate you all sticking with this. Here are the two images as I promised. This is how a message from Sky looks in the "Microsoft Viewer" when it finally displays after a long delay - And this is how the same message looks in Eudora's own built-in viewer, which displays it instantly - As I said earlier, if any fix or workaround results in it still looking like the second image, I will not worry one bit, as it's still perfectly readable! It's the delay that I really want to lose so I don't have to keep switching viewing modes on Eudora all the time. The Marks and Spencer e-mails are a worse problem as they look an awful scrambled mess in the Eudora viewer, but I don't get that many of them. Here too is the installation file for the Bugscreen Eudora plugin. This is the actual file that I found and downloaded to install the plugin when I was collecting up as many legacy Eudora plugins as I could find a few years ago! Cheers, Dave. Eudora Bugscreen Plugin 1.05 & Plugin Options 1.00.zip

Thanks guys. I should say at this point that I'm not too worried about how the messages actually end up looking, as long as the delay goes away. If they end up looking as they do without using the "Microsoft Viewer" option in Eudora I'll be quite happy with that! I'm not expecting them to look like they should do with the viewer working properly, as long as they're readable. When I get home tomorrow I'll post up a couple of screen grabs showing how they look with the MS Viewer on (after the long display delay) and when using Eudora's own viewer (when they display immediately). They then lose their proper formatting, but are still perfectly readable, at least in the case of the Sky ones. The Marks and Spencer ones look more of a mess, but I'm not so worried about them as I get relatively few of them. I'll zip up the Bugscreen plugin files too in case anyone still needs them.

Thanks @jumperand @heinoganda. I am away from home until tomorrow but I will post up the bugscreen files when I get back. If you'd like to examine them before that, if you download the Eudora.zip file linked to in my earlier post they are all there in the Plugins folder. Cheers, Dave.

I've just had a thought. There is a plugin for Eudora which I already use that I think might do the job here, with a bit of modification. It's called "Bugscreen". Have a look at its help file and see what you think. It's designed to strip unwanted rubbish out of incoming e-mails, and crucially, it does it as soon as they're downloaded, but before they're displayed, which is I think is exactly what we need. bugscreen.chm

Thanks, that's useful to know! Sadly it can't be the problem I was having as the only Apple software I have installed on Windows 10 is QuickTime 7 and the Software Updater that goes with it. I've never installed iTunes or iCloud. As I said earlier I eventually forced the update to 1809 manually, and so far everything seems to be OK.

Thanks @jumper! If you'd like to test with my version of Eudora, you can find it here. It's the whole program folder, less the actual mailbox files, and with my e-mail account information removed from the eudora.ini file. If the folder is copied to C:\Program Files it should work, as the program is pretty self-contained and doesn't need any registry entries. Cheers, Dave.

I tried using @jumper's experimental Eudora plugin package, but I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing with it. I already have quite a few Eudora plugins installed, including sort32.dll, which is the same as the default file in the package Plugins folder. I've tried substituting it with all six of jumper's alternative sort32.dll files, but none of them make any difference to the slow display of the Sky e-mails. BTW I have no .cpp files anywhere in Eudora, should I have? I'm not sure why a customised sort plugin would have the desired effect anyway, isn't sort32.dll just a plugin to do an A>Z sort on the text in messages, invoked by an option on the right click menu on a displayed message body? I wouldn't expect sort32.dll to change the way that they were displayed in the first place. Cheers, Dave.

Hallelujah!

I just decided to hide KB4462174 in Microsoft Update, and lo and behold, when I scanned again both KB4462157 and KB4461614 were then being offered again! I assume this is because KB4462174 actually replaces both of them. EDIT: Hmm, I hid KB4462157 and KB4461614 and all three updates were then shown as hidden as expected, but when I scanned again, then only KB4462174 was being shown as hidden! Bizarre!

I sent you a PM.

Yes, KB4462174 stops Office 2010 working as it installs a version of MSO.DLL which isn't XP compatible. This has been an ongoing problem for several months now with several Office 2010 updates. References here to the Office 2010 problem are cross-posting with this thread here. As this thread is specifically for discussing updates to the operating system itself, I suggest any further comments relating to Office 2010 are now made in the other thread.

Yes, it's now been pulled! Hopefully we'll get offered a fixed version soon.

Yes, I just saw this morning that it had gone. I'm glad they acknowledged the problem and took it down from Windows Update so quickly, but I'm surprised they're still offering it for download from the catalogue when it's obviously going to break a huge number of systems! Obviously should have been tested rather more than it was. I assume we'll see a fixed version soon.

*update.microsoft.com* is already there in config.ini in @heinoganda's latest version of HTTPSProxy. download.windowsupdate.com isn't there, but I guess perhaps it doesn't need to be. That may be why it all still worked fine for me on Microsoft Update.

Off-topic here of course, but my Office 2010 works fine now with just KB4462174 left uninstalled. All the rest of the current Office 2010 updates seem to be OK.