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Start->Settings->Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Computer Management (I use Classic View, so the route you take will be somewhat different.) Under the Storage section will be Disk Management; click on it. On the right-hand window, right-click on F and Change Drive Letter to an unused one, and march down the others until they are what you want (same way), then go back and change Z to what you want. Urggg! "Neither boots"? How can you tell the drive letters are what they are? Plug in only the original Drive-0 and see what happens (without the original Drive-1). According to your first post, this would have been the one with Win2K. This bad boy may not boot without the drivers for the "new PC" installed. Seen this before... Drivers for the Motherboard/Video/etc. must be in place if the PC's are that different. In other words, you can't just move a HDD from a VIA-based MOBO to an INTEL-based MOBO without the drivers being in the Install folder(s). And pre-XP was bad for not booting. Probably, you need to boot into Safe Mode on the XP one, ensure that the drivers are available, install them then reboot. In the case of the 2K, a "reinstall over top" may be necesary...

Uhhh, topic should be in "nLite forum" I think... Try installing without "deleting useful stuff", disable the services one-by-one until "stuff don't work". There's your answer.

I have to agree with Ponch... Notice that the scenario provides a "Yes" under certain circumstances. I also have (as thydreamwalker states) also had occasion to have purchased or been given older PC's and as a necessity used my Original Copy for a reinstall using the original PC's key. Back then, the OEM CD's were "generic" copies with a unique key provided for the given machine. And, won't swear to this but, the EULA does allow for a one-PC "Backup Copy" in case the Original is destroyed, stolen, or rendered unreadable.

What is "it recognizes"? What is "it"? How do you mean "connect before but not now"? If you mean to control/run the software on the XP from the Vista, I'm not sure you can unless the software allows for that (like MS-Office can, when properly installed on both, one being the "server"). Please be more specific. Not sure if I can help, but a better explanation may allow others to help...

2K must be the first drive, XP must be the second drive. Can't reverse them. There's a nasty, crazy trick that sometimes works but one has to be able boot properly to one of them. Then you have to import the registry for the other, change the values, then export it back. Also, you haven't quite described exactly what/how you connected them. If you connected them exactly as before, then there should be no change. Otherwise, it's called Disk Management in the Control Panel...

Uhhh, did you Defrag first? Files hang around "at the end of the Partition" and may "disappear" and/or get "corrupted" during a Resize operation. Try "restoring" the partitions to the resized ones. I use Symantec Ghost ("compressed", meaing not every single sector, only the MFT and Files/Folders) for backing up, resize the original, then Restore to the resized. No loss whatsoever, as long as sufficient room is given on the resized for "growth"... Never, never, never resize to the exact size of the "used space"! 20GB should have been fine, but if I understand you correctly, you "shrunk" before "backup". Big mistake, so the above advice may be useless. You might try "resizing" it back to the original size and pray loudly to whatever gods you worship. Rule of thumb - always backup first before mucking about... Hope you have an uderstanding/tolerant supervisor/manager. edit - K hit the nail... check to see what Acronis can do for you...

Ok, let's try this as informational - "Network and Sharing Center" in Vista (aka XP "Network Setup Wizard") "Network Setup Wizard" for the 9x machines. The XP Network Setup Wizard is downloadable from Microsoft and can be used standalone on the 9x machines. Not sure why you should have to go the roundabout way. Networking is networking. As for malware, how do you figure that TCP/IP would be the culprit for malware? The 9x machines use TCP/IP for accessing the internet, don't they? The only way malware can spread between machines is if there is an intentional execution of the "malware" between neighboring machines. Again, setting up a proper set of UserId's/Passwords along with proper Sharing accesses works for me (I do it between 9x/ME and a 2k3 Server all the time). I suppose you noticed that the Win9x machines don't allow you to specify which UserId's have full access? It's because it's "generic" (since it's not an NTFS-type system). This was done using TCP/IP and not IPX/SPX. BTW, the IP/Subnet addresses are also important in networking, right? Just because you have them set up on a Workgroup doesn't mean they can "see" each other (I assume you have this set up in your router?) . A quote from my own research when I ran into this; using CodeBox to minimize post view - 1. Name Each Computer Correctly On a peer-to-peer Windows network, all computers must possess unique names. Ensure all computer names are unique and each follows the Microsoft naming recommendations. For example, consider avoiding spaces in computer names: Windows 98 and other older versions of Windows will not support file sharing with computers having spaces in their name. The length of computer names, the case (upper and lower) of names and the use of special characters must also be considered. - 2. Name Each Workgroup (or Domain) Correctly Each Windows computer belongs either to a workgroup or a domain. Home networks and other small LANs utilize workgroups, whereas larger business networks operate with domains. Whenever feasible, ensure all computers on a workgroup LAN have the same workgroup name. While sharing files between computers belonging to different workgroups is possible, it is also more difficult and error-prone. Similarly, in Windows domain networking, ensure each computer is set to join the correct named domain. - 3. Install TCP/IP on Each Computer TCP/IP is the best network protocol to use when setting up a Windows LAN. In some circumstances, it's possible to use the alternative NetBEUI or IPX/SPX protocols for basic file sharing with Windows. However, these other protocols normally don't offer any additional functionality beyond what TCP/IP provides. Their presence also can create technical difficulties for the network. It is strongly recommended to install TCP/IP on each computer and uninstall NetBEUI and IPX/SPX whenever possible. - 4. Set up Correct IP Addressing and Subnetting On home networks and other LANs having a single router or gateway computer, all computers must operate in the same subnet with unique IP addresses. First, ensure the network mask (sometimes called "subnet mask") is set to the same value on all computers. The network mask "255.255.255.0" is normally correct for home networks. Then, ensure each computer possesses a unique IP address. Both the network mask and other IP address settings are found in the TCP/IP network configuration. - 5. Verify File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks is Installed "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" is a Windows network service. This service must be installed on a network adapter to enable that computer to participate in file sharing. Ensure this service is installed by viewing the adapter's properties and verifying that a)this service appears in the list of installed items and b)the checkbox next to this service is checked. - 6. Temporarily or Permanently Disable Firewalls The Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) feature of Windows XP computers will interfere with peer-to-peer file sharing. For any Windows XP computer on the network that needs to participate in file sharing, ensure the ICF service is not running. Misconfigured third-party firewall products can also interfere with LAN file sharing. Consider temporarily disabling (or lowering the security level of) Norton, ZoneAlarm and other firewalls as part of troubleshooting file sharing problems. !!just ensure Firewall has all IP addresses (or range, including the one w/firewall) trusted!! - 7. Verify Shares are Correctly Defined To share files on a Windows network, ultimately one or more network shares must be defined. Share names that end with a dollar sign ($) will not appear in the list of shared folders when browsing the network (although these can still be accessed). Ensure shares have been defined on the network appropriately, following the Microsoft recommendations for share naming. And, yes, I'm perfectly aware that "Network Setup Wizard" is primarily for ICS. It may very well be that the problem you have when you're using TCP/IP (or any other protocol) may be Point#6 (my own comment was that wrapped in exclamations - Very Important). That Firewall will block 9x from getting to Vista. Virtual Machines on the Vista are within that firewall, therefore there is no blockage. As for Vista "seeing the 9x", I may be clueless... (I must recant previous post as "going too far" on user-id/passwords). I do it all the time, since I "build" older machines and have the 9x drivers and software on my 2k3 server... Your choice, though... A side note - You can define a Virtual NIC and use ICS to allow your VM to access the Internet, as well as directly "share" between all machines... Done that too (uses 192.168.x.y series IP addresses)! Here's my example setup (using it right now) - NTFS (Server) IP/Subnet - 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0 (this would probably be your router) - MachineID = X - File and Printer Sharing - TCP/IP installed - (you MUST log on to NTFS-type systems using UserID/Password) - UserID = X (plus password) logged on - UserID = Y (plus password) defined - several folders shared (including the printer) with UserID = Y Full Access set - Firewall allows IP range 192.168.0.1 thru 192.168.0.254 (overkill, right? but it's my Intranet) Windows 98 SE IP/Subnet - 192.168.0.113/255.255.255.0 (also your router) - MachineID = Y - File and Printer Sharing - TCP/IP installed - "Control Panel->Network", "Client For Microsoft Networks" installed/set for "Primary Network Logon" (this UserID = Y; if it's not there, create it) - Two Partitions - D-Drive (as a Share Name) Full Access set Common Workgroup - WORKGROUP Repeat for each 9x machine using a unique UserID for each unique MachineID and add the UserID to the NTFS-type OS UserID list. For NTFS OS, easier to add all defined UserID's to a single group and set accesses to the folders on it for the whole group (define a unique group first).The Win98SE is sitting next to me running right now. And I have full access both directions! I can't believe Vista would be any different, since this same method worked for networking to/between an old NT4.0 PC too... And I honestly can't remember whether I installed "Network Setup Wizard" on th 98 box or not; it may not be necessary in your case (router... does it have Firewall in it too? I don't use a Router; my server is the router using a Workgroup "box"...). As for the Wireless, hopefully it also assigns (via DHCP) an IP within the range (very important), otherwise I will assume it's a no-go (also don't have a Wireless, so...). Pretty basic, not complex. Here's a Google search you can use to help (put it in the search field) - vista windows-98 "network setup wizard" HTH...

Well, (hint, hint) look in the SP3 after extraction (only). You'll find "certain files" different between OEM and VOL. Use them instead. Lots of info on that on the web. By looking, you should figure it out. Just changing SETUPP.INI by itself won't work. You may even have to get other "certain files" off of one of the pre-installed PC's in order to construct an OEM from the VOL. After you get a properly constructed OEM CD, the keys on the cases should(?) work. Can't say much more in case it's a no-no... Peace and Rice-a-Roni!

Ref "Cleaning the guts of the PC" - yes, but warning! beware getting crap into the pinhole airhole in the HDD, crap on the CD/DVD lens, and crap in the floppy. Otherwise, yep... Ref "Sending important stuff to free account" - best bet is Gmail due to larger file size limitation (20mb total per message) and mailbox size. Much larger than any other free account I've found. Check it out; I have RoadRunner, and dang if the limitations are low! Also check the other "free accounts"; also rather low. Yep, cleaning the bugger is all fine, but a clean install is best (getting all drivers and re-installl software of course). Been 3 years for me and about due... Peace and a bowl of Cheerios to ya!

UDF maybe? Might be a new feature in Vista and it wasn't noticed when burning. Check on that (don't have Vista, but sounds reasonable). May just need a UDF-reading software put on XP. Don't know if IsoBuster would reveal that or not (trial version available I think). Note - Virtual usually uses the true interface (correction anyone?) from the host system, so... Yep, UDF inconsistency confirmed - http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPo...2&SiteID=17

Can't use Windows Logon for Primary Logon in Win9x/ME, got to use Networking Logon (can't remember exact terms). Install/add this if not preset. Add the User ID's/Passwords of each 9x PC to Vista PC as appropriate Group (Users, Admins, etc). Ensure File and Printer Sharing on all is enabled. Create a Shared Directory on Vista PC and 9x PC's. Add Vista User ID's/Passwords to each 9x PC. Set accesses as necessary for each User-ID/Group (full, read-only, etc) to any given Shared Directory on Vista PC. Now they'll talk to each aother via the Shared Directories. Vista can't be much different than NT/2K/XP/2K3 (which I've succesfully done the 9x sharing with). Appears that 9x/ME is a little lax in this respect, so it was never necessary to do this between them, but on NT-type systems it is. HTH

Uhhh, just find the original I386 install folder, back it up somewhere, download full SP3, then slip it / burn it. More info on how-to on MSFN (search!). Be sure to get the key first and bear in mind re-activate (no biggie since it's been so long). Probably the reason for such a big Windows folder is due to all the updates (unhide the hidden/system and you'll see them). One folder is wher the stuff gets downlaoded to, multiple folders for backups of previous versions. Clean reinstall will vastly reduce the number of updates with SP3 slipped. And please don't wink too loudly, OK? Ya wanna stay, right? Peace!

Just let it do it... you'll find that IE7 insists that you "set it up" on first use. Should be ok afterward; that's why you see "runonce" stuff - only runs once. No biggie. Scratch that... just noticed "settings not saved" comment. Try uninstalling IE7 then reinstall it to see if its "fixed"... Unless you are referring to "Internet Options" (you are?) then you must do the first thing I mentioned, or the changes will be ignored... P.S. Best to be updated to latest Service Pack FIRST as you must uninstall updates in reverse order to successfully uninstall IE7 (as the last uninstalled item).

Might help (don't use vLite - don't have Vista but...) if you try clicking on each line bottom-to-top. There's usually an associated descriptive message displayed that may shed some light on your problem. Then perhaps someone more knowledgeable may be able to assist. Peace!

Sorry to say, it probably won't happen because it won't even boot. Those specs are way too low. Maybe the CPU might squeeze by but the RAM is insufficient. Least I've encountered is 233mhz CPU with 96mb RAM, and it was a slow lazy hound dog, mainly because of RAM. You also have a minimum on the Hard Disk (3gig) to even install, not to mention the Page File size. Search ebay for a better laptop if that's what you want to use, but to my recollection the 800CT is only capable of, and installed with, the Win9x series of OS. Even WinME would be hard-pressed with such low RAM.

There is/was a way, but I'm not authorized to reveal it. It was originally a thread by member soporific called Unattended Boot CD for Windows 98SE, but some of the contents were deemed warez. Perhaps if you ask kindly, provided the moderators are in agreement, the non-warez portion and tips may be allowed. This, to my knowledge, would involve building the CD on your own utilizing software you either already have or that you may need you obtain elsewere. Again, the reason it was considered warez was AFAIK due to the fact that some contents were MS proprietary albeit either on the CD you own or available at the MS FTP site. Not sure if it can be resurrected in an acceptable fashion, under a new and acceptable topic, or not. I personally will not undertake to usurp soporific's grand idea and code (DOS BATCH files) nor will I provide any lest I or soporific be inadvertantly banned. Bear in mind, it isn't as simple as you may think it is but not necessarily that complex. There is a repository for all of it, but I will not under any circumstances reveal that either for the same reasons as above. I'm sure that somewhere along the line, perhaps others may be able to shed some light on the ins-and-outs. It is possible... Peace, and Welcome to MSFN! edit - Going back, I find some of the utilities contained therein were also non-MS, one of which specifically was the "unnamed" partitioning tool. Perhaps an alternative utility could be found. FDISK really stunk for unattended. Curiosity - Is the disk you have OEM? edit2 - Look into FreeDOS; I think it may have a compatible set of partioning tools, including an alternative FDISK that may/may not do what you need.

Go here for step-by-step instructions. Worked for me. http://www.iopus.com/guides/oe-backup.htm note - may have to move the clone back to a spare disk on a spare computer and boot to it to get the original REG entries... scratch that - REG.EXE may allow you to get them from cloned DAT files - the registry - in DOS mode via Boot Floppy... read up on it. HTH

Why would you want to? 9x and ME are somewhat incompatible in that respect. I suppose it's possible (?) but I've never tried. More sensible to simply use 9x DOS with 9x and ME DOS with ME (there's a way to do that with a patch). ME doesn't like you fiddling with AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS; it tends to "strip" what it doesn't like... Here's another MSFN topic on this

I knew about SP3's meddling - but this has happened on machines that are still SP2. SP3, being cumulative, obviously has one or more updates (for SP2) in it specifically doing that. Find the list of SP3 Updates and find the culprit if you need to, although I don't really see how that will rectify your situation. Just thank MS for changing your settings rather than retaining them .

Huh... musta missed it. Got this from a friend...Well then, consider this a re-share / bump!

Dunno if it will work with a USB modem, but if you can find SuperVoice it can send/receive fax and serve as an answering machine (monitors incoming calls). Works great! Good luck finding it... got my copy a long time ago with a computer... (it needed a key to install).

You Just Can't Fix Stupid!! ONE Recently, when I went to McDonald's I saw on the menu that you could have an order of 6, 9 or 12 Chicken McNuggets. I asked for a half dozen nuggets. 'We don't have half dozen nuggets,' said the teenager at the counter. 'You don't?' I replied. 'We only have six, nine, or twelve,' was the reply. 'So I can't order a half dozen nuggets, but I can order six?' 'That's right.' So I shook my head and ordered six McNuggets. TWO I was checking out at the local Wal-Mart with just a few items and the lady behind me put her things on the belt close to mine. I picked up one of those 'dividers' that they keep by the cash register and placed it between our things so they wouldn't get mixed. After the girl had scanned all of my items, she picked up the 'divider', looking it all over for the bar code so she could scan it. Not finding the bar code she said to me, 'Do you know how much this is? ' I said to her 'I've changed my mind, I don't think I'll buy that today.' She said 'OK,' and I paid her for the things and left. She had no clue to what had just happened. THREE A lady at work was seen putting a credit card into her floppy drive and pulling it out very quickly. When I inquired as to what she was doing, she said she was shopping on the Internet and they kept asking for a credit card number, so she was using the ATM 'thingy.' FOUR I recently saw a distraught young lady weeping beside her car. ' Do you need some help?' I asked. She replied, 'I knew I should have replaced the battery to this remote door unlocker. Now I can't get into my car. Do you think they (pointing to a distant convenience store) would have a battery to fit this?' 'Hmmm, I dunno. Do you have an alarm, too?' I asked. 'No, just this remote thingy,' she answered, handing it and the car keys to me. As I took the key and manually unlocked the door, I replied, 'Why don't you drive over there and check about the batteries. It's a long walk.' FIVE Several years ago, we had an Intern who was none too swift. One day she was typing and turned to a secretary and said, 'I'm almost out of typing paper. What do I do?' 'Just use copier machine paper,' the secretary told her. With that, the intern took her last remaining blank piece of paper, put it on the photocopier and proceeded to make five 'blank' copies. SIX I was in a car dealership a while ago, when a large motor home was towed into the garage. The front of the vehicle was in dire need of repair and the whole thing generally looked like an extra in 'Twister.' I asked the manager what had happened. He told me that the driver had set the 'cruise control' and then went in the back to make a sandwich. SEVEN My neighbor works in the operations department in the central office of a large bank. Employees in the field call him when they have problems with their computers. One night he got a call from a woman in one of the branch banks who had this question: 'I've got smoke coming from the back of my terminal. Do you guys have a fire downtown?' EIGHT Police in Radnor, Pa. interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The message 'He's lying' was placed in the copier, and police pressed the copy button each time t hey thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing the 'lie detector' was working, the suspect confessed. NINE A mother calls 911 very worried asking the dispatcher if she needs to take her kid to the emergency room, the kid was eating ants. The dispatcher tells her to give the kid some Benadryl and it should be fine. The mother says, I just gave him some ant killer..... Dispatcher: Rush him in to emergency room! Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid ...

Compaq (so I assume HP?) had a selection on many preloaded PC's in the "All Programs" (or "Start/Programs") to create a set of Restore or Recover CD's in case you were foolish enough to destroy both the primary (the C-drive) and the Recovery (hidden D-Drive) partitions. See if you have that and if you do make all the CD's for insurance. If not, then (again, for insurance) backup the "hidden" partition (don't remember offhand the method for "unhiding") to CD/DVD using whatever software suits you (it better be able to restore). Burn all post-restore installed software (and don't lose the keys) also. This will include Service Pack 3 Network Install (search Microsoft.com for it). This is the Full Service Pack (which includes all previously released "fixes", of which only a handful of "fixes" have been issued since (SP3 was released April 2008). You don't need Service Pack 2 since erveice pack 3 supersedes it. It is also available as an ISO file which can be burned to CD with ImgBurn (an ISO Image Burning Program), which will AutoRun when inserted into your drive. The primary reason for using the Recovery CD's/Partition is to reinstall all software suppied by HP (not just Windows, but maybe MS-Works, or some Demo software usually good for 3-6 months). Also, it "retains" the Windows Product Activation. An alternative (if you only care about the Windows part and not the extraneous software) is to locate the I386 folder on the "Hidden Partition" and find the topic on Silent (or Unattended) Installs of OEM Windows. This may require using the key on the side of your PC (not the one found with keyfinder) and possibly certain "special" files on you current C-drive. I've used the I386 and "special" files to create an OEM Install CD (not Unattended) for my brother's wife before and it works. But do definitely organize some kind of backup plan according to The Flash' post and/or to this. BTW, ImgBurn will create ISO's for you to burn for backup of everything, but you will probably need BartPE to restore them. Do a little reading up on the tools you've downloaded and do a search ("Google is your friend") on how other people have done it as well as here on the Forum. And DO NOT (sorry for yelling, but it's important) alter or delete the Hidden "Recover" Partition in any way once you reveal it. It can also be used if you accidentally delete the C-drive partition simply by making it the Active one (perhaps the HP BIOS allows for this scenario?). And, yes, a Disk Image as Flash has already proposed, would be the ideal solution, provided you use CD/DVD-RW's and keep a set in rotation (current, older-1, older-2, etc.). This is the solution many Big Boys use (been there, done that). Using CD/DVD-RW's allows for up to 99 reburns. Just don't mix them up, e.g. keep the "sets" number (set1 cd1+2+3, set2 cd1+2+3, etc) remember/mark them according to rotation so you know which one you may be restoring-from or rotating-in. Wow! is right... Peace, Flash...

Just checking in to say so ya know I ain't MIA. Been busy building a few old 'puters and learning newer-type stuff (XP, Server, Networks, Firewalls, etc).

I think you've just hit on the solution to the oil crisis... walk more often and drink a lot!!!