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Okay, that explains it. I *never* use a REAL email address for these types of things. *NEVER* v23 would CONNECT (through HTTPSProxy) but then fail account creation saying the email account was unreachable. I tried EIGHT different "temporary email" services, Panda could not "reach" any of them. ie, has them all blacklisted, not uncommon [MSFN accounts can also not be created with temp emails, something that *ticks me off* but "is what it is"]). v21 would not even try to connect to the "temporary email" services [direct, no proxy] (which is inline with your statements). Just the way I do things, Panda will *NOT* get my email address. But I could create a "throwaway" Gmail and activate that way if I opt to keep Panda.
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I can't get it to ACTIVATE on 100% Native XP+POS. The ACTIVATION may be where HTTPSProxy becomes a must.
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I can report that Panda Dome 21 does indeed install on a 100% Native XP+POSReady2009 (ie, *no* HTTPSProxy, *no* ProxHTTPSProxy, *no* Proxomitron, *no* Cert Updates of any kind, IE never even launched until the Panda installer launched it!). And it also offered the OFFLINE installation checkbox (which I selected during install). This is a completely updated XP+POS, immediately after install of OS (plus all OS updates/hotfixes) *only*. Completely virgin XP+POS. It did not get a different version of Panda that needed uninstalled first in order to install v21.
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Technically, THEY ALREADY HAVE. "We" are only able to get it installed by using programs that are not part of XP, how many of even us MSFN Geeks truly consider that route to be "supporting" XP? And the "exception error" that I was getting in LTSB 2016 indicates to me that they don't support "Win10", but rather only "new Win10".
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Yes. Not in LTSB 2016, but yes in 24H2. In 2016, it "installed" but attempts to open the GUI resulted in an "exception error". At what version of 10 did the "exception error" get fixed is unknown. I've already deleted the VM clones. I could reclone/reinstall if screencaps are required. Basically, I know enough at this point that my "real hardware" XP will *not* be getting Panda Dome (it may not get ANY antivirus, to be perfectly honest, it's just for out in the garage).
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The same exact v23 *offline* installer when ran in Win10 *ALLOWS* for an OFFLINE installation. In XP, the *Offline installation* checkbox is disabled so you are forced to use the offline installer as a "stub" that downloads v22! XP: 10:
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one moment, ran out of space to allow copy-and-paste screencaps... bad news, that means all previous screencaps will be deleted (my time is too valuable unto myself to use any image hosting services, sorry, just 'fact')...
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The same exact v23 *offline* installer when ran in Win10 *ALLOWS* for an OFFLINE installation. In XP, the *Offline installation* checkbox is disabled so you are forced to use the offline installer as a "stub" that downloads v22! XP: 10:
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Also, as another "teaching lesson", monitoring your TEMP folder is generally a MUST during ANY "install". It's also a great way to get (and archive) the "real" installation file(s) even if using a tiny "stub" that downloads the "real" installation files. In general, as long as you do NOT close the "stub" or pull from TEMP folder "while" it is running, then you can copy the "real" installation files from TEMP before the "stub" deletes them.
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I'll test in a Win10 VM. It really is the *BEST* way to TEST. You can try all the "uninstaller" programs you want, you will find that installing/uninstalling "frequently" has a tendency to "F Things Up". Keep that baseline VM and only install into clones, DELETE the clone when done testing. This approach is the GUARANTEED *ONLY* approach to ***NEVER*** F anything up!
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Same here. The "original" v23 offline installer (from Softpedia) is denied installation due to you canNOT install ANY of these **OFFLINE**. You MUST be connected and those "communications" will not allow archived installers to install OFFLINE. So basically even OFFLINE installers are being used as "stubs" to download installation files. Pretty clever, actually. The 120MB install .exe is placed in your TEMP folder and THAT is what you are really installing, NOT the .exe that pulled in that TEMP .exe. Also, if you MONITOR your proxy traffic, the PNG files are being used as some sort of method to detect what installer is being executed. Again, pretty clever.
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Everything within the SOFTPEDIA download appears to be MUCH more TRUSTED as **REAL** v23.
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According to Major Geeks, v23 should be dated mid-December of last year. (Major Geeks does not offer the OFFLINE installer.) Softpedia also indicates v23 should be dated mid-December of last year. I personally would not "trust" the files from FIVE DAYS AGO. If they came from an httpS source, I wouldn't be so skeptic. No offense, but I will **NOT** be installing that http-sourced file! It is just not the way I historically do things, don't see the need to change now.
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As a general rule of thumb, I historically REFUSE to download "trusted" content from http, especially "security" software! The version.ini does report v23. I will install into an XP *VM* later this morning. Several extracted-retain-timestamp files are dated from only FIVE DAYS ago.
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I can try tomorrow. Typically, my Modus Operandi is OFFLINE INSTALLER with internet DISCONNECTED during install. My XP rebuild machine is not ready yet. All I can offer is a VM install (generally 90+ percent accurate, but only "real" machine can fully state 100%).
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I'd be more inclined towards "betting any money" that if we keep pinging "support" that the end result will end up being the REMOVAL of said advertised XP support.
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<OT> Maybe you installed Revo on that date? And the 0KB is a Revo bug? </OT> Same here. It didn't seem to slow down my 18yr old computer (now with XP POSReady), so of course that was a plus.
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Still catching up. Appears AstroSkipper's partition has other issues. Not to state the obvious if it has already been discussed. TON of action here lately in this thread and just getting started.
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I am in-process of installing XP POSReady2009 on a "demoted" 'spare' 18yr old computer. Found this - https://msfn.org/board/topic/184770-howto-create-a-windows-xp-sp4-dvd-with-all-driverpacks-and-some-apps-repost/ This will be my very first POSReady. Which version of Panda Dome shall I install first?
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So slight update. Perfect solution to solve OCD+ADHD+task-switching multipotentiality personality "disorder" ("out of chaos comes order"). Ever since "finally" DITCHING XP and upgrading to a nosed-decked-sectioned customized Win10, I basically now never watch one thing at a time. My screens are divided into drag-and-drop "zones" (be it the computer with two monitors or the computer with three monitors or the computer with five monitors). I once had TWENTY FOUR videos all playing simultaneously just TRYING (and failed!) to get them to buffer-lag or audio-stutter or pixelate. But I *failed*. Even running TWENTY FOUR videos and I couldn't intentionally run into any stuttering or pixelating video issues! Of course, that was just to "test the extremes". Generally speaking, I have a MINIMUM of THREE videos (big-blue + yellow + orange) [with horizontal bar at bottom split in two, one for email, one for texting]. Or the horizontal bar has sports scores or news headlines, depending on time of day, season of year. So I now have the big-blue "zone" running the Audio Limiter Pro extension (has to be manually activated before drag-drop into windowed headerless popout). And all of the other "zones" running the Volume Limeter extension. The zones are set up to mute/unmute simply by clicking inside the zones.
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I got everything to my liking. The AV receiver in the living room is my only truly awesome surround sound receiver. But I don't watch "everything" from the living room. :) With the combination of OS-level EQ (Equalizer APO + Peace GUI) coupled with browser-level compressor (Volume Limiter), I am now greatly satisfied with my streaming experiences. Whether in the living room with Dolby Atmos 7.2 fed from HDMI or whether in the computer room with nothing but a three-speaker left/right/subwoofer fed from a 3.5mm (1/8") phono jack. Whether background audio while sitting at the bill-pay computer or streaming anything from YouTube, Pluto, Plex, Tubi, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Paramount+, or Comcast/Xfinity. And I no longer have to stub a toe running for the remote's volume buttons when a loud scene breaks out or two people start whispering for no reason whatsoever, nobody else is on the set, why whisper?
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I'm open for suggestions. "Decoding is better done on hardware" doesn't sound like an option, I'm just looking to watch movies, not buy thousands of dollars in recording studio equipment. So I've been trying dozens of different software-based options.
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Portables *can* be .exe's. Common "wrappers" that bundle everything into an .exe is Cameyo, Spoon, Thinapp (used to be called Thinstall), et cetera. If truly portable, any folder that the .exe creates will be created within the folder that contains the .exe and not to external locations like Program Files or Windows folders. If truly portable, any registy entries required are created "internally" and not within the OS's registry. Often times, the OS registy is TEMPORARILY used by portable apps, but the registry entries are REMOVED when the portable app is exited/closed.
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Disregard. I like Audio Limiter Pro the best. BUT... it can only be active on one browser tab at a time and I generally have anywhere from two to seven, never only one. And once I take the tab to a "picture-in-picture popped-out window", there is no toolbar to activate this extension on a per-popped-out-tab basis. So I need to stick with this one instead, works on all tabs -- https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/volume-limiter/mifbapamdlfoaejolcmnagpedbooefjf
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At the OS-level, I am running this as my equalizer. https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/ *plus* https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/ voice preset, -6dB pre-amplify reduction, enable surround effect