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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I totally understand you. I'm simply emphasizing the importance of "modern web" compatibility OVER AND ABOVE "extensions". I could care less about "extensions", I want a browser that can handle the "modern web" FIRST AND FOREMOST. -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
This is where I highly disagree! To me, the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of a web browser is that if I have 1000 weekly web sites that I visit, then the browser MUST work on ALL 1000 without any extensions installed. If so much as ONE of those web sites does not work without any extensions installed, then that web browser does not serve my needs and not worth my time! Period! This is the case with NM27 / NM 28 / BNav / St52 / St55 -- I cannot pay one of my utility bills with ANY of them so they serve ZERO purpose for me to use them on my other 999 weekly web sites. So "more extensions" means NOTHING to me! ESPECIALLY given that extensions are a "dime a dozen". MOST written by kids that are kinda clueless, but need to get their start somewhere. Extension ecosystems, in my view, are kinda better managed by Mozilla-based than Chromium-based. I do give Mozilla-based that. How many times have you searched for an extension on the Chrome Web Store and found one dated over a decade old!? It should have been DELETED a LONG time ago. Extensions have NEVER dictated what browser I use. AND NEVER WILL. -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Agreed! I actually thought MAT was on the right track on this one and disagreed with Roytam's file names of palemoon and basilisk right in the file name (still disagree, to be honest, but no skin off my back). UNTIL we saw what happened with the "raccoon-branded" Mypal. MAT lost all accountability from that point forward in my eyes. BINGO! -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
As an MSFN member throughout this entire "mess", I never felt that MSFN was targeted specifically by Moonchild, only by Tobin. I didn't really follow it that closely (Mozilla-based lost to Chromium-based long before the "mess" arrived). As an XP user, I feel that official Pale Moon owes XP nothing. I really strongly believe that. If official Pale Moon is looking toward the future, then XP-compatibility is "backward-looking" and not "forward-looking". I can't help but feel that EVERYBODY in the UNIVERSE that is still using XP and needs a browser to also run on XP, those people are already HERE at MSFN. And we can count them on two hands! Add one foot if we need some toes to count the Vista folks. Official Pale Moon's future isn't XP and Vista. I know that "goes against the grain" of MSFN collective-opinion, but I really don't think that official Pale Moon's "future" is XP and Vista. There isn't that big of a "market share" for that audience. And we are all already members here at MSFN. -
I never wear a seatbelt if I'm only IN TOWN. Law be d@mned! It's "illegal" in the US to drive without a seatbelt. DO NOT CARE! I do not wear a seatbelt if I'm only IN TOWN. And do NOT feed me the BS that 40mph plus 40mph = 80mph. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. Only thing that EVER happens IN TOWN are "fender benders" and NOT "fatality" types of accidents - PERIOD! Sure, somebody is going to cite an exception, as an exception can always be found. SEATBELTS ARE POINTLESS FOR IN-TOWN DRIVING!
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Is "CTR" a what or a who? -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Confirmed, I've always used Stylem to customize NM27 and NM28. -
I don't have any use for "nitter" but as far as testing, I have to disable NoScript and uMatrix, load the page, then re-enable and all works fine - even without setting any special non-default NoScript/uMatrix site-specific "nitter". Seems to me to be very much related to extensions. Chrome and Mozilla both have a flaw, from my experience, that a disabled extension does NOT BEHAVE THE SAME as the same extension enabled but with site-specific rules set to "trust/bypass". Chrome and Mozilla both also have the flaw, from my experience, that an INCOGNITO WINDOW does NOT BEHAVE THE SAME when an extension is disabled versus enabled! Too difficult to log specific cases, but I'd swear that I've seen this behavior over the years in both Chrome and Mozilla browsers - INCOGNITO mode will react DIFFERENTLY when an extension is ENABLED versus DISABLED. Even though INCOGNITO mode "should" behave as if all extensions are DISABLED (unless, of course, you opt-in for allow in Incognito). Do not assume that Incognito mode is the same thing as disabling all extensions!
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I was never really a fan of Basilisk. Everything on the web I've ever needed would always work in NM27 / NM28 / BNav. Well, until recent year or so and I've needed Chromium-based. What am I missing that's supposed to be so special about Basilisk? -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
To Moonchild - Just read your "A change of direction for Pale Moon in 2022" thread in its entirety. BRAVO! I look forward to the new direction! -
I tend to NOT use the "latest-and-greatest" version of most of my extensions ON PURPOSE. Newer often times just means a newer "feature" was added. But if that "feature" is a security/privacy risk, then all you did was shoot yourself in the foot thinking "it's newer, it has to be better". Flags: --disable-logging --no-default-browser-check --disable-component-update --disable-background-networking --allow-outdated-plugins --kiosk-printing --disable-print-preview --cipher-suite-blacklist=0xe013 --disable-webgl --js-flags=--noexpose_wasm I do NOT use any uMatrix/uBlock "lists" (one that I used to use is still listed in my profile but unchecked). I use MVPS HOSTS file but tend to only update once every six months or so. A ton of site-specific uMatrix and NoScript rules not included below. I rarely visit YouTube but since it has such a gigantic following amongst MSFN members I have two extensions just for a site I almost never visit.
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JUST THE WAY I LIKE IT I allow JS on my banking and billpay, but the vast majority of the rest of my browsing experience is for READING the content on a web site, which works perfectly fine without JS BS (not "always", but good enough for me, I'll just go to a DIFFERENT source where I can READ the content without JS BS).
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The MSFN café - A Penny for Your Thoughts
NotHereToPlayGames replied to XPerceniol's topic in Funny Farm
Calling it "deadly" is "fear mongering", if I may be so bold! -
I patiently await @feodor2's "Mypal 2.0". NONE of Roytam's builds will work on one of my savings/IRA account web sites (in XP, 7, or 10!) so that alone kinda makes them all useless to me. I used to do that for years, maintain one browser for these web sites, maintain another browser for those web sites, I have zero interest in doing that anymore, life is too short. I miss when Mypal 27.9.4 performed everything I threw at it Hopefully "Mypal 2.0" (or whatever it's going to be called) will return me to Firefox-based. TBD edit - and NONE of Roytam's builds will work for my American Water billpay web site (in XP, 7, or 10!).