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Many thanks again! That DNSQuerySniffer has become quite the godsend! Has helped in tracking down a few phone-homes I was previously unaware of. For example, a few bookmarked websites (such as Roytam's very own o.rthost.win) does not have a "favicon" and I was unware that the browser was pinging o.rthost.win EVERY TIME I LOAD THE BROWSER.
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I wouldn't word it that way. #1675 is only a month old. Mypal 27.9.4 (my default-for-all browser-of-choice) is from July 2018. -
Anyone else having problems trying to print .pdf files from 360EE? I couldn't print whether default internal viewer (chrome://plugins -> Chromium PDF Viewer) was disabled or not Also tried with chrome://plugins -> Chromium PDF Plugin also disabled (though this didn't seem to make any changes, .pdf still opened as a tab but as an embedded Adobe Reader [my preference so that I have the Adobe toolbar]). @VistaLover - do you have any reason for staying at v12? Reason I ask is that I only recently started trying 360EE and I started at v13 build 2182 and am impressed. BUT it doesn't matter if I use Stylus (tried FOUR different versions) or xStyle (only tried one version), v13 keeps crashing randomly only during editing styles. Although NM28 + Stylem tended to be plaqued by the same nuance.
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Awesome! That's exactly what I was looking for! Many Thanks! In 360EEv13, build 2182, patched, the LINK for netlog-viewer.appspot.com is right there on the page for you when you stop network logging. Will monitor off-and-on for several days and report back any suspicious shenanigans. Kinda optimistic, looking forward to an XP browser as modern as Chrome 86.0.4240.198 -- ie, November 11, 2020! Thanks! DNSQuerySniffer looks VERY promising. Will trial-run over the next few days or so. Apologies for doing three posts in a row, never tried the "multiquote" in order to quote two people and figured I'd learn that trick another day. As far as additional 360EEv13 build 2182 patched testing goes, the only oddity I've bumped into thus far is with my primary computer which has FIVE widescreen monitors. DVI, HDMI, VGA (in that order across the computer desk). Then two via USB-to-VGA (mounted above the lower set of three). Only the DVI and the HDMI have desktop icons. The oddity is this, whenever I save a download to the desktop, ALL of my desktop icons and the downloaded file(s) land on the VGA screen. I can work around it, of course. Just really strange is all.
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Can anyone recommend/suggest any network traffic programs. ie, to monitor/verify any-and-all connections/requests being made by 360Chrome. From the best I can tell, the Russian Repack isn't doing anything sneaky (once you get rid of the default 'new tab'). But I'd like to test further as I am close to satisfied in that this could become my "default-for-all" browser (including banking sites, which is why I really want to Run The Gauntlet in testing). I'd prefer something that is NOT part of any "firewall" software, if possible. "Portable" would be a plus but not a requirement. Thanks in advance.
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Because of the "unwise" comment. But no worries :) <quote> your decision was, in this particular case, an unwise one... </quote> -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@VistaLover It's shennanigans like this that are one of about two hundred reasons why NOTHING on my computer "auto-updates". Although on the other hand, I also don't recall seeing any Flash Content from my browsing habits for YEARS. I do have a few Soduku sites and crossword sites on the computer at work, but I don't think they are Flash but can't say for sure from home. -
Awesome! Works like a charm! Much appreciated! Seems the en-US isn't really required and CWS defaults to English for the .com domain so I opted for https://bit.ly/38xbzbe instead. Yeah, I guess I'll have to get into the habit of right-clicking for my local extensions (left-clicking is the habit because of an "Add-ons Button" extension to perform that task in Mypal / NM). edit: nah, on second thought I opted for left AND right click to BOTH just take me to 'chrome://myextensions'. I only ever use the CWS for setting up my initial profile and only use between 3 and 8 extensions depending on browser then never visit the CWS afterwards.
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Been monitoring this thread loosely and finally jumped in for a trial run. Been using the Russian Repack version 13.0.2182.0 for a couple of days and do have just one tweak I'd like to find a fix for. Depending on your skin, there is an "extension center" icon where if you left-click it opens the Russian Chrome Web Store (hl=ru). I have not found where to change this to hl=en -- is this possible ??? If you right-click it opens 'chrome://myextensions/' - I'd kinda prefer the right-click / left-click be REVERSED. Left-click open my extensions, right-click open Web Store -- is this possible ??? edit: ps - I've also found it much more to my liking to DELETE the 'newtab.zip' file in the Application directory then set the startup page to 'chrome://newtab'.
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Bingo, that was it, thanks. It was unchecked but I now have that option checked. -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@roytam1 Fingers crossed that YOU can fix this as opposed to an "upstream finger-point". In BNavigator (32-bit), the browser's right-click context menu gets in the way of the website's right-click context menu. Three examples are -- 1) Google Sheets (any spreadsheet) 2) Google Docs (any document) 3) https://www.jqueryscript.net/demo/Simple-jQuery-Right-Click-Context-Menu-Plugin/demo/ -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Sweet! I like it, didn't know it was there! Has proven rather interesting. NM27 still clobbers Serpent. Need to be careful though, some websites serve different content to different browsers so this table ensures that each browser was served the same "total requests" and "transferred size". I included "Site H" for an intriguing reference (I found over a dozen sites that basically did the same thing). The two web browsers on the same exact site had 203 requests in Serpent but only 109 requests in NM27. You place one on one monitor and the other on the other monitor, scroll through each very carefully, and you can NOT find any DIFFERENCE between the two "renderings". One took 40 seconds to load, the other only took 6 seconds. One has 62 js files, the other has only 32 js files - but again NO VISUAL DIFFERENCE between the two! One says 79 images, the other says only 42 images - but again scroll carefully and NO VISUAL DIFFERENCE between the two! I haven't really dug deeper as to seek out any root cause for such a GIGANTIC difference when the two look IDENTICAL. -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I don't know about for SWITCHING tabs. My issue has more been about CLOSING tabs - especially for very long browsing sessions like you mention versus opening-and-closing the browser for new sessions. Others have posted it also over the years - I really dislike clicking the X on a tab then sitting there and waiting 2 to 4 seconds for the tab to close! This was my biggest issue with NM28 and it is one of several reasons why I prefer NM27. I have not ran Serpent in any very long browsing session to test if this is an issue with Serpent. I am also unaware if it is "still" an issue with NM28 - perhaps others that have reported it in the past will chime in if it is still an issue. I am also open for "better" ways to test page rendering. What I used for the below is the Status-4-Evar and PageTimerLite add-ons. NM27 barely beats Serpent from what I see here -- I did three page loads and posted the averages. -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@DanR20 -- Another thing to watch is how fast the GUI loads and responds to mouse-clicks. What good is a browser that renders pages in 100 milliseconds if it takes 10 seconds for the GUI to load? (exaggerating, of course) I use PassMark AppTimer for this -- https://www.passmark.com/products/apptimer/ And again, Serpent is the SLOWEST. Don't get me wrong, Serpent has its advantages (not for me personally, but it depends on what the user uses it for) - but "speed" is not one of those advantages. Browser-choice is ALWAYS a matter of "personal preference" so again, "mileage may vary". -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
My table is from an i7-4770. My other two desktops are both Core2 Quads and the laptop is Core2 Duo. No matter how I slice it, NM27/Mypal27 is the fastest and Serpent is the slowest. To each their own, you cited earlier that you don't see any benefit to using Pale Moon. Well, what goes around comes around, but I see no benefit to using Serpent. -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I run with javascript.options.ion set to false for added security. (which is why my table has n/a for KM76 because it would give an apples-to-oranges comparison) -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
"Serpent" is the SLOWEST of the browsers being offered here (at least on my hardware, "mileage may vary"). -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
In a nutshell -- Firefox is no longer Firefox. Firefox removed legacy (ie, XUL) add-ons in favor of WebExtensions (ie, Chrome-like) add-ons. I suggest you install this add-on archive then go from there -- https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases/tag/2.0.3 -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
More or less to confirm a hunch -- -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Perhaps a better explanation is required? I personally don't know WHY we have "regular", "sse", and "ia32". But my reasoning is based on "user base" - ie, my hunch is that 99% of people here can (and should) use the "regular". But there's that 1% that has us (Roy) releasing all three "flavors" every week ??? We have Win98 and Win2000 "flavors" every once in a while - we (Roy) doesn't release those "weekly" (nor should he). So why are we (Roy) releasing sse and ia32 flavors "weekly" when there is such a tiny user base that "require" those flavors ??? Just thinking out loud... -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Your avatar (or whatever it's called) says you are on XP so the answer is "neither", use the "real" version that has no SSE or IA32 in the name. Technically the answer is determined by your CPU and not your operating system. Use the "real" version unless your computer is so old that it came with Win 98 or Win 2000. If it came with Win XP then the SSE and the IA32 aren't for you. At least that's how I understand it.