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I have a general BNavigator question regarding my Stylem User Style sheets. When a username or password is memorized, BNavigator drops down a select-box below the input field. With no "inspect" utiltiy in BNavigator, how do I find the attributes for this select-box (ie, so I can change the font for example)? Or is this "browser-level" and beyond Stylem?

@kartel Regarding Google Drive - it also does not work in Firefox ESR 52.9.0 and nor does it work in Firefox Quantum ESR 68.12.0. It does work in Firefox Browser ESR 78.10.0 and in Firefox Browser 88.0.

No luck here in old or new versions of NM27, NM28, BNavigator, and MyPal 27.9.4. I don't know how to "prove" that it is Chrome-Only, but I can only perform your cited task in a Chrome-based browser. Sorry, I tried to help you out. "it is what it is"...

I did not see the word "webex" in any of the 43 pages on this thread - does anyone know the last version of WebEx to work on XP? Not sure if it would still video-conference or not.

How many do I "own"? Too many to count! But here is the list of computers that I use at least once a week if not daily (3 desktops, 4 laptops). Dell XPS 8700 running Intel i7-4770 with 16GB RAM and with five widescreen monitors. eMachine with basically everything gutted and replaced currently running Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 with 3GB RAM and with two "square" monitors and one widescreen monitor. Compaq Presario with basically everything gutted and replaced currently running AMD Sempron 3100+ with 2GB RAM and one extra-wide widescreen monitor. IBM ThinkPad T43 [16yrs old] (only once a month or so on this one, reprogram performance chips on project cars, tune turbos, etc) running Intel Pentium M 750 with 2GB RAM (no longer has any batteries). Dell Latitude D830 running Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 with 3.5GB RAM. Dell Latitude E5470 running Intel i5-6300U with 8GB RAM. Acer Aspire One running Intel Atom N270 with 1GB RAM. But my proudest I'd say is a fully functional Commodore 64 that's been in the family since 1981 (sound chip has been replaced a couple times), celebrating its 40th Birthday.

My NM28 is dated Sept 2018 and hasn't been used for several months (I use the 'eguivalent to' official 28.2.2 as far as my NM28). Not sure how long ago Google Drive changed because I used to be able to use it even in a NM28 that "old". Have you tried various useragent overrides?

How ironic! I'm not a YouTube fan but YouTube comes up ALL THE TIME on the browser threads. I always use The Red Green Show whenever testing YouTube. I just finished "The Order" on Netflix only to be disappointed to discover it was dropped after only two seasons. Prior to that was "The Queen's Gambit" - a female orphan growing up in the 50's and rises to defeat the Soviet-Russian world chess champion in an era where the Russians dominated the chess world. I'm now watching "The Irregulars" on Netflix and the 1978 to 1983 sitcom "Taxi" (Danny DeVito, Tony Danza, Christopher Lloyd, Judd Hirsch, Andy Kaufman, Marilu Henner) on Hulu.

I hate "it is what it is", my last boss (a "yes man") would say "it is what it is" a dozen times per week, if not more. But it didn't "terminate thought", I learned to reply with "We evolve or we cease to exist" and I'd say that goes for here also. It's not about Google Meet or Google Voice, albeit that was the conversation-starter. Look at recent issues as simple as an arrow icon that doesn't work because some javascript function is too "new". I'm no "fanboy" of this browser versus that browser, I owe no loyalty to this browser versus that browser. I'm just a Simple Man and just want a browser that "works" for the sites that I visit. Don't we all? My "default" browser has changed at least six times in the last year alone. I'm not asking for sliced bread - just give me the loaf and I'll find my own knife.

Does Google Meet work in OLDER versions of Basilisk? ie, did a recent update "break" Google Meet or did Google Meet NEVER work in Basilisk to begin with? I will add, I'm unfamiliar with Google Meet but I do use Google Voice DAILY. I don't own a cell phone OR a land line, I do any-and-all phone calls and texts for FREE using Google Voice (it's actually a stress-free lifestyle cutting the FALSE perception that we "need a phone"). Plus, I get to roll on the floor in laughter when dad gets stressed out when a solicitor calls his phone, he has to resort to "What part of do-not-call list do you not understand?" on a good 80% of the calls to his phone! Solicitors and robo-dialers CAN'T call Google Voice! But, back to your question - unless a recent update "broke" something, my hunch is that Google Meet will NEVER work in Basilisk (old or new). I say that because not "all" of Google Voice will work in *ANY* of Roytam releases. It's been one of the driving factors for me to convert over and use a CHROME-BASED browser as my DEFAULT. Like it or not, fight it if it makes you sleep better at night, but the "internet" is evolving towards Chrome-only.

Yes, remain vigilant! Us Roytam-users (one of my work computers uses NM27 exclusively) must constantly remind ourselves that we are beta testers. We have no such thing as a "stable release". And the more "distant" we grow from the "Great Schism" the more-and-more probable that "new code" will not play well with "old code".

For you YouTube folks - here's one to try -- https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/418283-youtube-cpu-tamer I did not see any improvement in 360Chrome but the author does specifically state that Firefox-based browser see bigger gains.

@VistaLover - Wow, five and a half of those are all just for YouTube. Guess I just don't get that, I visit YouTube only 3 to 6 times per YEAR. HUGE Stylus/Stylem fan. I used Stylem to customize NM27/NM28/MyPal27 GUI quite a bit when they were my defaults. I used to block favicons entirely back in my GreenBrowser + Proxomitron days.

My XP experience is best shared pictorially. When covid shut down one of my customers for a couple of months, I went ahead and made a 3D model of my house "just to pass the time". I work out of a home office and below is my living room. Five of those widescreen monitors are ran by a quad-core i7-4770 @ 3.4GHz with 16GB RAM -- XP x64 so all 16GB RAM is usable. Two of the widescreens are TVs, I usually have a sitcom on one and news on the other -- if not news on both. The two laptops (one runs triple boot 7, 10, XP x86 but pretty much always booted into XP, the second runs Win 10) can optionally send to the larger of the two widescreen TVs. The computer room has a quad-core core-two Q6700 @2.66GHz with 3GB RAM -- XP x86 and "only" 3 monitors, two "square", one widescreen. Working from home, basically every customer has their own VirtualBox VM. Most of these VMs are XP x86, a couple of them are Win 10 LTSB. With 16GB as my Host, I can (when needed) run four, five, even six of my guest VMs and not bog the Host down. Not common, but "can" be done. It is common to be running two VMs. But here is my FAVORITE part of this setup -- and it is XP x64 ONLY (this computer originally came with Win10, I've tested with 7, but running XP x64 for speed, efficiency, and this "flaw"). The combination of graphics cards and USB converters to get me to FIVE widescreen monitors has a "flaw" that ONLY occurs in XP x64. Fully updated and most recent hardware drivers. But here is the "flaw" (that I do not want fixed, I love this "flaw") -- when the monitors turn off because of being idle (I do not use screensavers), ONE of the monitors will NOT turn off. So I can let four monitors "sleep" while the fifth monitor runs email or voicemail for if a customer reaches out to contact me while the computer is "sleeping".

Here are a few I've found to be must-have's. Disable AutoRefresh -- https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/16079-disable-autorefresh/code Halt! -- https://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/review/125995 I personally use the one-liner version v0.0 but replace whitelist @include's to run on ALL http and https because I want the OPPOSITE effect of blacklist versus whitelist, ie RUN ON ALL until I tell it not to. Disable Javascript setInterval and timers -- https://kplug-list.kernel-panic.narkive.com/65G6iuYC/disable-javascript-setinterval-and-timers Redirector (v0.1 post at bottom of page) -- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3168944/how-can-i-redirect-some-page-with-javascript-in-greasemonkey

I always thought it was something from Doctor Who (Matt Smith era, 11th Doctor).

360Chrome v13 bocks port 10080 according to https://example.com:10080/

Ha, too funny! Seems to me that most forums send old and locked threads to an archive or sub-forum section, they don't stay-in-the-fray, so to speak, but they remain as "reference material". It is not about offending the eyes of Whoopi Goldberg wearing a Habit, but about keeping the forum neat and tidy and free of clutter. Kind of like the forum offering us the preference option to hide "signatures". I'm not undermining the "quality" of the clutter, but I do have to wonder if some of them have even been visited within the past year. But again, just a tiny suggestion, my Stylus hides the "offense" anyway For the sake of neat and tidy. And because Stylus sheets are a bit of a hobby

I slightly disagree. I personally don't believe in "pinned" threads (and I've been a forum moderator on other forums). The truly important topics will stay at the top by their very nature of constant discussion and new members signing up to chime in. And when a discussion fades into the distance, it should do just that, fade into the distance instead of being artificially placed at the top. As the moderator, you should be able to see if some of those "ancient" threads have even been READ/VISITED within the last YEAR. And if they haven't, or if the visit count is miniscule, then, well, no-brainer, un-pin them "my two cents" and no skin off my back either way (my Stylus hides content I don't specifically white-list, I manually disable whenever I want to see if there is "new" content to white-list).

7 of the 16 "pinned" threads in this forum are "ancient" and taking up space. Do we need to keep them "pinned"? Does not need to be too complex, three-and-only-three options. (Though I considered adding a fourth option, "Add more pins so that we always just skip to Page 2 for new and recent content".)

@roytam1 I've pointed this out several times throughout the years but it seems to remain among the forgotten. The "about:permissions" Permissions Manager is still broken! The last version where the Permissions Manager worked fully was palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190803-23551d191-xpmod.

Easy, Grasshopper! No malfeasance was intended so apologies if you felt that way. Simply offering an alternative solution. 360Chrome is my DEFAULT browser, I believe you once told us that it is NOT your default. BTW, caps are just a bad habit, maybe it's a generational thing, don't know. We could start a poll but my hunch is that those of us that watch this thread because 360Chrome is our DEFAULT (or at least a "majority-use"), that we are using the REPACK versus the "official". Again, no malfeasance intended.

I very STRONGLY suggest using the REPACK version. The hurdles to jump through aren't nearly so GIGANTUOUS as far as telemetry-prevention with the REPACK version. I have personally only witnessed roughly 5% of Dixel's list so I would be curious to see screencaps of evidence that such a huge list is required even under the "official" (non-repack) version. My HOSTS file blocklist suggestions are much much smaller and I've not yet witnessed anything in Dixel's list outside of the below -- 0.0.0.0 browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 cloud.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 dd.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 ext.chrome.360.cn 0.0.0.0 u.qurl.f.360.cn 0.0.0.0 puv.tt.browser.360.cn 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhimg.com 0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhmsg.com 0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhmsg.com I've personally not witnessed all of the .p0 through .p5 items, but I keep the full sequence blocked "just in case". I should point out that I delete errorpage.zip and newtab.zip and I've never used the "official" version, only the repack and only with a very large number of tweaks. Too many tweaks to list here, but one of them is to open chrome.dll in HxD Hex Editor and replace all 265 (build 2206) ocurrences of "360.cn" (without the quotes) with "killed" (without the quotes). Another tweak while in HxD Hex Editor is to zero-out the IP Address for "SystemHostResolverCall" (without the quotes).

Normally I would direct you to here -- https://lrepacks.net/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html BUT builds 2210, 2212, and 2216 of v13 are all BROKEN as far as ENGLISH (ie, Developer Tools). So I remain on build 2206. A Google search found build 2206 here, I suggest it until the newer releases fix the English in Developer Tools -- https://mega4up.com/c9zq51tq6r6i TAKE CAUTION -- "mega" hosting cites try to "trick" you into the WRONG download link! Click on the Free Download button, fill in the not-a-robot-crap, click create download link, click the click here to download, it will usually open a new tab - CLOSE THAT TAB, it is NOT the real download. Click the click here to download a SECOND time - this should start the REAL download -- the file name is 360_extreme_explorer_13.0.2206.0.zip If it tries to get you to download an .exe, CANCEL the download and click the click here to download again until it finally downloads the ZIP file. NEVER download .exe files from "mega" hosting cites! But that's the only place I could find build 2206 as far as a download link.

Here are two overrides submitted back in Page 16. --enable-low-end-device-mode --enable-low-res-tiling I did not observe any effects when I tried these several months ago but maybe they will on your setup.

Please note that this thread discussed a similar crash back in pages 16 and 17. Tests then showed *better* RAM handling with v13 over v12 and with v12 over v11. It's not so cut-and-dried as looking at RAM amount and doing "simple math" as to which number is larger or smaller - IT IS NOT THAT "SIMPLE". We also have to factor in that v11 is based on Chrome 69 - which does not multi-thread or at the very least is "first generation" multi-threading. Keep us posted as you try v13 (or maybe even v12). As I suspect that NEITHER will have this "crash bug" that I cannot replicate on my hardware but seems consistent on your hardware. Keep us posted...