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I want quantitative measurements. Not "gut feeling". Newer is not always better. But nor is it always worse.

I'm inclined to "toot a horn" also, but "why bother".

Not uncommon. Cloudflare fingerprinting cannot run through Proxomitron either.

Not familiar with "OnlyFans". I tried from here at work and landed on a big Corporate Landing Page for attempting to connect to an "adult" web site. Hope IT doesn't knock on my door.

I can prove it by the weekend or so. Unless you can prove the contrary before then. My experience is that SP3 is faster than SP2. I'll grab screencaps by the weekend or so. edit - I am talking about a slipstreamed SP3. Not an install Original XP, then install SP1, then install SP2, then install SP3. But slipstream SP3 onto the original install media and install SP3 at step one.

When SP3 first came out, I remember doing weeks and weeks of performance comparisons and found SP3 to be faster than SP2, not the other way around. Mileage may vary on what hardware is actually being compared, of course. But I seem to recall that all of the technical magazines and web sites drew the same conclusion at the time, that SP3 was faster than SP2.

Nothing in my reply was angry or uncalm.

Do we have a frame of reference? Why would we expect him more than once a day?

Zero custom themes. Third-party multi-monitor window management was hiding the Clear Private Data popup. Haven't looked at empty History popup yet because I'm finding St 52 much more powerful than BNav.

Hmm... Unsure if my BNav profile became corrupted over time or not. My History popup is always EMPTY and Clear Private Data has no popup. BNav required an add-on DOM Inspector which didn't bother me too much because BNav was only ever used for ONE web site, never more than ONE web site (Google Voice instant messaging) - 360Chrome serves ALL OTHER USES for me. Since newer BNav requires a new theme/skin in order for me to ever use it, I've been comparing St52, St55, and BNav (I've ruled out NM28 due to very choppy behavior on my hardware). Thus far, I am opting for St52 as my SECONDARY instant-messaging-ONLY web browser - it cannot do what 360Chrome can do and 360Chrome remains my King (on XP). I'm using St52 with the Photonic Theme but am still tweaking to my liking. Also including Stylish 2.1.1, Tabs on Bottom 0.7.3, and Status-4-Evar Revived 2019.10.11.3.

@roytam1 - are you aware that BNavigator's "Manage History" and "Clear Private Data" functions do not work?

I get 60 fps in 360Chrome v13.5, NM28, and St52. Can't get ClassiCube to work in Mypal.

You lost me. I know "what" DOOM is, but I have never played it. Do other "browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes" (particularly XP) achieve a higher FPS?

You are correct. I was an update or two behind. But again, Google Voice does not work and once that is established on my end, I do not test with any additional web sites. That one web site and that one alone is the first hurdle. If the runner trips on the first hurdle, I do not proceed further down the track.

Although this gap is not there if you enable the Menu Bar. Doesn't matter though. Google Voice will not work on Mypal and it is not my arena to post at GitHub. I am not an official "beta tester" for Mypal and will not become one.

NM28 will not be replacing BNav after all. Very choppy and stutter-step mouse movement. Does anyone that has used Bnav for several years know how I revert to the OLDER user interface. I dislike the "half white, half gray" tab, dislike the "half light gray, half medium gray" tab bar, dislike the "min/restore toolbar handles", and dislike the "cartoon-ish" back/forward/refresh/stop/home icons.

That's because that is the INACTIVE WINDOW title bar and icons. When ACTIVE, Mypal's title bar and icons are EXACTLY IDENTICAL to the title bar and icons of my 360Chrome skin !!! My INACTIVE WINDOW 360Chrome skin is also IDENTICAL to Mypal's INACTIVE window. And the Mypaly title bar being TALLER than a STANDARD title bar in XP is one more reason I will not be using it! The min/max/restore/exit icons are TOO TALL and DO NOT MATCH the other 99.9% of applications on my computer. XP icons and title bar should look like everything else on my XP. One program should not look different than another! THAT is the purpose of my XP skin. Nothing more, nothing less. Will not be discussing futher.

As stated before, your error console is not displaying any error that points to the polyfill in question. The browser window showing that error and the LG web site showing that error before the polyfill in question does not make the polyfill in question the common denominator.

Agreed. The "raccoon" is only ONE reason I do not use Mypal. Google Voice does NOT work in Mypal. Whether you use Google Voice or not is not really my concern. I do use it and GV does NOT work in Mypal. Circle spins and never gets past this point. Once I get that far, there is no point in me seeing if my bank accounts or utility bill payment web sites work.

Yep! You bet your butt! It's not that uncommon. Look at the reaction by non-XP users (at dozens of sites, not just here at MSFN) that will not use a 360Chrome browser because of it having an XP skin. That is not really any different, is it? We all have out "likes" and "dislikes" and we should not expect them to "make sense" to others. Basically akin to "the heart wants what the heart wants" when you see people in an ABUSIVE relationship but STAY because "the heart wants what the heart wants".

Define "sudden freeze". I do run NM28 (and ironically just posted as a reply to you in my 360Chrome thread). But mine is not a "latter release". Mine is 2022-04-29. It does have an occasional and rare "freeze" but it brings itself out of it all on its own. For me, it seems to only occur when filling in username and password forms. The typing will "freeze" and keyboard entries do not show up in the username/password form. But I keep typing and 5 seconds later or so all of my keyboard entries finally show up.

Technically, I only echoed other reports (MSFN, reddit, GitHub, XP Forums, Twitter, Vogons (this one is not as "recent" of a report)). Several users have reported stability issues. But all remind everyone that it is still "beta". I myself do not use Mypal because I hate the raccoon icon. I know that's not a "real" reason to not use it, but it is MY reason for not using it and we all have our own "likes" and "dislikes". Although, I am "in the market" for a browser update. My XP x64 remains my DOMINANT DEFAULT "everyday" computer. This very thread's v13.5.2036 is this computer's default web browser. Technically it's not a "default", I do NOT set up operating systems to have a "default" web browser - you can NOT open HTML links from email clients, you can NOT open HTML links from desktop shortcuts, apps can NOT launch a web site, et cetera). My SECONDARY browser used to be BNAV 20210820. I like its interface. But Google Voice instant messaging no longer works for BNAV 20210820 (and instant messaging is the ONLY reason I use a secondary so that I can clear primary browser sessions throughout the day but keep secondary instant messaging running all day). Google Voice for PHONE CALLS do not work in ANY of the Roytam offereings (haven't for a few years), but the instant messaging side does and it's nice to have a SECONDARY running "on the side" for this function and this function ONLY. I have ZERO use for ANYTHING other than 360Chrome outside of ONE function - instant messaging "on the side" while enabling me to close browser sessions on my PRIMARY. Instant messaging does work in newer BNAV versions, but I hate the newer interface and will not use it (sure, it's probably able to be reverted, I have not dived that deep and likely will not). No diferent from users not using my 360Chrome because they don't like the XP skin. We all have "likes" and "dislikes". My current SECONDARY was recently changed to NM28 2022-04-29. (first version with telemetry removals in the changelog and recent enough that Google Voice instant messaging works). It is "single-process" but I only use it for ONE tab (Google Voice instant messaging). If there is a way to REPLACE the Mypal raccoon logo, I might give it a run as my secondary. But nope, will not run with the raccoon.

Appears to me to be a DIFFERENT error message and NOT associated with randomUUID(). Please provide a screencap where you are seeing randomUUID() in the error console. Note that this is a "two-stage" error, you will not get the randomUUID() error until AFTER to fix/polyfill the Object.hasOwn error (which I also did NOT see at wallapop). For our LG example, you get this error with no polyfills fixed - Only AFTER you fix that error, will you then get this error - Only after fixing the first error that brings the second error then fixing the second error will the LG site work correctly -

Quite possible. But I do NOT use nor "support" single-process browsers in 2023!