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NM28 will not be replacing BNav after all. Very choppy and stutter-step mouse movement. Does anyone that has used Bnav for several years know how I revert to the OLDER user interface. I dislike the "half white, half gray" tab, dislike the "half light gray, half medium gray" tab bar, dislike the "min/restore toolbar handles", and dislike the "cartoon-ish" back/forward/refresh/stop/home icons.

That's because that is the INACTIVE WINDOW title bar and icons. When ACTIVE, Mypal's title bar and icons are EXACTLY IDENTICAL to the title bar and icons of my 360Chrome skin !!! My INACTIVE WINDOW 360Chrome skin is also IDENTICAL to Mypal's INACTIVE window. And the Mypaly title bar being TALLER than a STANDARD title bar in XP is one more reason I will not be using it! The min/max/restore/exit icons are TOO TALL and DO NOT MATCH the other 99.9% of applications on my computer. XP icons and title bar should look like everything else on my XP. One program should not look different than another! THAT is the purpose of my XP skin. Nothing more, nothing less. Will not be discussing futher.

As stated before, your error console is not displaying any error that points to the polyfill in question. The browser window showing that error and the LG web site showing that error before the polyfill in question does not make the polyfill in question the common denominator.

Agreed. The "raccoon" is only ONE reason I do not use Mypal. Google Voice does NOT work in Mypal. Whether you use Google Voice or not is not really my concern. I do use it and GV does NOT work in Mypal. Circle spins and never gets past this point. Once I get that far, there is no point in me seeing if my bank accounts or utility bill payment web sites work.

Yep! You bet your butt! It's not that uncommon. Look at the reaction by non-XP users (at dozens of sites, not just here at MSFN) that will not use a 360Chrome browser because of it having an XP skin. That is not really any different, is it? We all have out "likes" and "dislikes" and we should not expect them to "make sense" to others. Basically akin to "the heart wants what the heart wants" when you see people in an ABUSIVE relationship but STAY because "the heart wants what the heart wants".

Define "sudden freeze". I do run NM28 (and ironically just posted as a reply to you in my 360Chrome thread). But mine is not a "latter release". Mine is 2022-04-29. It does have an occasional and rare "freeze" but it brings itself out of it all on its own. For me, it seems to only occur when filling in username and password forms. The typing will "freeze" and keyboard entries do not show up in the username/password form. But I keep typing and 5 seconds later or so all of my keyboard entries finally show up.

Technically, I only echoed other reports (MSFN, reddit, GitHub, XP Forums, Twitter, Vogons (this one is not as "recent" of a report)). Several users have reported stability issues. But all remind everyone that it is still "beta". I myself do not use Mypal because I hate the raccoon icon. I know that's not a "real" reason to not use it, but it is MY reason for not using it and we all have our own "likes" and "dislikes". Although, I am "in the market" for a browser update. My XP x64 remains my DOMINANT DEFAULT "everyday" computer. This very thread's v13.5.2036 is this computer's default web browser. Technically it's not a "default", I do NOT set up operating systems to have a "default" web browser - you can NOT open HTML links from email clients, you can NOT open HTML links from desktop shortcuts, apps can NOT launch a web site, et cetera). My SECONDARY browser used to be BNAV 20210820. I like its interface. But Google Voice instant messaging no longer works for BNAV 20210820 (and instant messaging is the ONLY reason I use a secondary so that I can clear primary browser sessions throughout the day but keep secondary instant messaging running all day). Google Voice for PHONE CALLS do not work in ANY of the Roytam offereings (haven't for a few years), but the instant messaging side does and it's nice to have a SECONDARY running "on the side" for this function and this function ONLY. I have ZERO use for ANYTHING other than 360Chrome outside of ONE function - instant messaging "on the side" while enabling me to close browser sessions on my PRIMARY. Instant messaging does work in newer BNAV versions, but I hate the newer interface and will not use it (sure, it's probably able to be reverted, I have not dived that deep and likely will not). No diferent from users not using my 360Chrome because they don't like the XP skin. We all have "likes" and "dislikes". My current SECONDARY was recently changed to NM28 2022-04-29. (first version with telemetry removals in the changelog and recent enough that Google Voice instant messaging works). It is "single-process" but I only use it for ONE tab (Google Voice instant messaging). If there is a way to REPLACE the Mypal raccoon logo, I might give it a run as my secondary. But nope, will not run with the raccoon.

Appears to me to be a DIFFERENT error message and NOT associated with randomUUID(). Please provide a screencap where you are seeing randomUUID() in the error console. Note that this is a "two-stage" error, you will not get the randomUUID() error until AFTER to fix/polyfill the Object.hasOwn error (which I also did NOT see at wallapop). For our LG example, you get this error with no polyfills fixed - Only AFTER you fix that error, will you then get this error - Only after fixing the first error that brings the second error then fixing the second error will the LG site work correctly -

Quite possible. But I do NOT use nor "support" single-process browsers in 2023!

You have to provide the website's URL in order for the script to be improved. Otherwise, it's a bit akin to just being a Negative Nancy or we have to assume it's a website you shouldn't be on in the first place because you "can't" share the URL. That's a new one, never heard of it. What pros/cons to it versus Violentmonkey or Tampermonkey? I actually "heavily" modify my Tampermonkey but instructions on how or why very likely cannot be discussed herein.

I use Tampermonkey 4.13 and have not had any issues with it. I prefer it over Violentmonkey. The "matched scripts" of Violentmonkey seems nice though.

You would also have to export .reg's from the VM and import to the host. You are really REALLY REALLY just better off archiving whatever you need saved and REINSTALLING your XP. If you have the ability to install to a VM, then you have the ability to install to your real hardware. I would suggest a program called DriverGrabber so you don't have to hunt for any drivers not part of OEM XP.

TheLeftOldComputer - you can either spend 6 weeks trying to restore IE6 because you uninstalled IE7 incorrectly or spend 30 to 50 minutes depening on hardware to just reinstall XP.

Seems quite low-risk and unneeded. Speaking for myself, I block/disable the modal overlays that this seems to specifically target. Have you seen any web site actually "require" it?

In other news, you're right, reading through that Malwarebytes forum has a lot of XP Hate. Only makes me stick to my guns and use XP all the more. Some form of "reverse psychology", if one truly wants to rid the world of XP, caps, or BOLD, tell everyone how much you LOVE it and then they won't dig in their heals. Clique this. Click that.

It's micromanaging. Plain and simple. Like correcting people's English, grammar, or spelling. "Nobody cares". But yeah, "OT". And I'm not referring to the buzzer beater to extend the clock. waka waka waka

Use of bold every other word seems a bit unorthodox, while we are micromanaging everybody's typing. Clique this. Click that. Regarding Malwarebytes, has anyone demonstrated if v1.75 definitions come from a different IP/Server than v3?

That last post cites this -- "I have quoted exile360’s August 13, 2020 post above because I tend to agree with his opinion that current definitions cannot be expected to work effectively with a 10-year-old version of Malwarebytes, however I am not an expert on that myself." I have to agree. "Having" a definition created SEVERAL YEARS after the "engine" does not indicate that the engine KNOWS WHAT TO DO with that "definition". Caveat emptor!

I understood it perfectly fine. HOWEVER, it took DECADES of practice as I work for a very diverse global company and "see" and "hear" that type of sentence structure every minute of the day. English is a very VERY difficult language to learn. Or so I'm told, I've been speaking it since the days of sleeping with a Teddy Bear so I cannot speak from firsthand experience.

I'm going to have to copy that one and use often, lol.

I did read it, yes. But I have also read dozens of articles informing the user how to remove the usage of unique identifiers. It is public knowledge and to hide that while shouting about "bans" is a bit BIASED in my view. I myself take that route. I remove/disable telemetry before using Win10. I remove/disable telemetry before using 360Chrome. Even an HONEST Firefox user will tell you that Firefox collects telemetry if the end user does not remove/disable it. An antivirus's sole role is to prevent viruses. The effectiveness of that and that alone (and ability to run on XP) should dictate whether it is discussed in this thread. PLUS how to disable telemetry. Software collecting telemetry is "much ado about nothing" (many do this in the guise of "improving their product"). But an informed user that is NOT showed how to disable telemetry (or even hides that it can be disabled) is also pushing an agenda. There are two sides to this coin. And both sides are equally legit, or so it seems to me. I've said all I need to say, I trust the MSFN Reader is intelligent and above average of a conumser or they would not be here in the first place. I trust them to make the informed decision.

I don't think any US Government Department/Agency has publicly "banned" XP. But I can find several articles stating that they have abandoned XP in favor of 10 -- https://www.minitool.com/news/defense-finally-abandon-xp-for-windows-10.html Does that mean that all XP-related threads here at MSFN should "move on"? Again, a resounding NO. I only site this "correlation" (if it can be seen as such) in the sense that if we can PROVE that Kaspersky of 2023 is NOT THE SAME as the Kaspersky of 2017, then let the reader make the informed decision on whether to use it or not. In the world of IT and computers, almost ALL articles in 2017 no longer apply in 2023 - unsure if this is the case for Kaspersky.