NotHereToPlayGames

I guess another way to look at it is think back and there were things like "Yahoo Groups" and when you think back at those days and compare to today, nobody does "forums" anymore, nobody does "message boards" anymore. It's a Facebook and Twitter universe. WinCert and MSFN and RyanVM, they weren't created to be Facebook. But it doesn't take a lot of looking to see how Facebook "persona" infiltrates MSFN at times.

I don't see that. I see a GIGANTIC difference "pre-covid" and "post-covid". From "road rage" to "net etiquette", the world has changed! It may appear to be Window-version based, but how much of that is that folks running 10 or 11 "never heard of" MSFN? Is there really any reason for the 10's and 11's to be here? Certainly much less than the 98's and the XP's and the Vista's and the 7's.

I am a moderator on a Proxomitron forum (two of them but one isn't around anymore). Not much traffic these days but was way more active than MSFN when the Proxomitron Community had a guy by the name of "sidki3003" (if I remember the name correctly, don't have that bookmark here at work). The Proxomitron forum never had these types of "events".

I can say "I tried" to tone it down. But yeah, I'm done with that thread for a few days, lol.

I find the two to perform comparable to each other and do not see 1030 as "much faster".

No. No, not really. But the original developers of 1030 define it as "experimental" and do not recommend it for daily use. Depends entirely on the web sites that you visit. NONE of my weekly/daily visited web sites requre ANY of them. But it's so extremely easy just to install them and with essentially zero impact on performance that the risk-reward is humongous to the upside, have it "ready" for that 1 out of 10,000 web sites that isn't going to work without them. Only time will tell just how "mainstream" any of these will become. If they become "mainstream", then that 1 out of 10,000 (purely plucked from the sky) web sites today will turn into 1 out of 100 web sites a few months from now.

Yep.

Agreed. I'm just keeping my full list of polyfills enabled since I'm seeing no more page breaks.

The 2ality post specifically states "this blog post only demonstrates the new methods with Arrays, but they are also available for Typed Arrays". Typed Arrays are - Int8Array Uint8Array Uint8ClampedArray Int16Array Uint16Array Int32Array Uint32Array Float32Array Float64Array BigInt64Array BigUint64Array This (same link as earlier post) polyfill should work for Arrays and Typed Arrays.

I'm opting for this polyfill but do have the four "smaller" ones included-but-disabled in my Tampermonkey set of userscripts. Won't really know the best option until we can find an example web site or two.

Awesome, thanks! I did miss the edit and also somehow missed the findLast. I can now keep all enabled without any page breaks.

In both cases, it was only this polyfill that broke the page -- if (!Array.prototype.findLastIndex) { Array.prototype.findLastIndex = function (callback, thisArg) { for (let i = this.length - 1; i >= 0; i--) { if (callback.call(thisArg, this, i, this)) return i; } return -1; }; }

I'm finding that having "too many" polyfill injections cause more problems then they solve (breaks Sedecordle, breaks MS Teams, just the first two I've found). For now, I just keep my list of polyfills disabled by default then enable them when needed as opposed to just injecting them all "just in case" they might be needed. Technically, I've yet to encounter these on any web site I ever visit.

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W o r k s f o r m e . . .

Agreed, same here. I never used v11 long enough to encounter crashes with v11. Nor did I use it long enough to stumble upon the rebase and I've only ever used v11 without rebase. My v13 crashes seem to always be extension-related (even with only ONE extension). When I downgraded the extension to an OLDER version, stability returned to v13. I have not had any of these crashes with v13.5.

Proxomitron or Proximodo or Proxydomo.

DHCP Lease ?

I use Tampermonkey.

You really need to stop doing this! This type of impatience is very likely grounds for getting yourself banned from MSFN. Roytam only releases his browsers once per week and you have five requests in three days all for the same issue!

Not in my view. Not all of us "see" things the same way and every one of our worlds is centered around what we ourselves "see". Why "micromanage" and create a visual concentric to one paradigm? Removing posts for the sake of disagreement is "micromanaging" what others "see" and attempts to paint one paradigm. I'll leave that to legacyfan (OP) and the mods. But yes, "this has been fun", lol.

That is ONE way to look at it. One person can be a "glass half full" person. Another can be a "glass half empty" person. And NEITHER ONE of them is "correct", nor NEITHER ONE of them is "incorrect". Truth is not "absolute". "It's all relative." Having to choose between two choices does not make the selection 50-50. The world is not "black and white".

It's also human nature to kind of think that the world revolves around "you". We are all the CENTER of our own world, our frame of reference is always through our own eyes and ears, not somebody else's eyes and ears. Somebody can wave to somebody BEHIND you, and it is kind of human nature to want to wave back, but some of us can divert that reaction to looking to the side so that our peripheral sees behind us. That's actually one of my funniest observations in life, I drive with one hand at the steering wheel "at noon" (my vehicles are manual transmission, dislike automatic transmission). It is HILLARIOUS the number of people that WAVE to me because they see one hand at the top of the steering wheel and they are so self-centric that they think I was WAVING at them.

Yep! I've seen DOZENS (plural!) of conversations here at MSFN taken out of context and steered in the wrong direction. DOZENS! By dozens of different people, no real "common denominator" (some have a common denominator, but not "statistically significant"). Most of the time "by accident". A few times "on purpose". I try to just "write them off" as cultural differences and language barriers. This is a multinational web site. Points can not often be conveyed ACCURATELY in a tiny sentence or two. And nobody wants to read a "diatribe" when visiting MSFN. We all view the world differently and that view can effect just how a tiny sentence is interpreted. ALL forums are like that.