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Does the error console show anything?

I have that delay on ALL versions, including 1030. No way to disable it. It can be reduced by not running a rebased version of chrome.dll, but then you won't like the RAM consumption. You have to pick the lesser of two evils.

I had uploaded 1030 with the site isolation disabled and it was later on that it was discovered. That flag was not intended to be set in the uploaded version, it was set when I was doing some testing on my end before uploading.

Odd. Which Speedometer are you using? There's actually 3 of them (1, 2, and 2.1).

"Don't sweat the small stuff. And it's all small stuff." I have coworkers that play the game of constantly pointing out other coworker's mistakes. It never ends well for the person doing the "pointing out". Again, it's a "superiority complex". It has often even landed the person "doing the pointing" in HR for their "superiority complex", them "not playing well with others", them not being a "team player".

I can assure you that if you spend time correcting coworkers' typos, this WILL hold you back in life. It's actually impolite and somewhat akin to a "superiority complex". I guess unless you work for a newspaper and strive to become Chief Editor. edit - perhaps a better explanation -- you're not the first to correct typos and MEANINGLESS (in the grand scheme of things) typos and grammatical errors here at MSFN, the next time you see somebody doing that here at MSFN, ask yourself if you want to be lumped in with that person and have all the rest of MSFN stereotype you as "one of those people". Most of "those people" tend to always land on "ignore lists" because of the "superiority complex" that they unconsciously convey. I do not direct that to you, of course. You asked me to explain and that's my explanation, typos are MEANINGLESS to me, whether I am reading them or whether I am typing them, simply MEANINGLESS, lol.

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Spoke too soon. Water bill is working again. Fingers crossed they aren't "trying" to change things on their end.

I'm quite certain that he meant "stay away" not in the sense of abstinence, but in the sense of not expressing his opinion on the matter as he suspects his opinion would offend other MSFN members. In that regard, I too kind of "stay away". But I'm sure I have more then TEN posts, lol.

Check your chrome://flags - I suspect that you have "Site Isolation" disabled. This is known to break CloudFlare CAPTCHA but does reduce process count and RAM. Disable Site Isolation at your own risk, Here is a good read on it -- https://www.guidingtech.com/disable-site-isolation-google-chrome/

Not sure I agree here. This is how it SHOULD work. But my sister had PTSD (due to a miscarriage) before serving in Iraq. She drove a tank that delivered food to civilians. An Iragi soldier in civilian clothes threw an INFANT in front of her tank, she was trained not to stop, not that you can stop a tank that fast anyway. She came home with PTSD x 10,000 compared to what she had going in. Here in the US, there are times of war where our military will take anybody they can get. Not uncommon to take in "juvenile deliquents" and the military gives them a clean slate, erases all of their criminal history. The military MOST of the time (not all of the time!) does break them from this "criminal behavior". I also submit that there are some mental health issues that don't show up until you're in your 30s but our military takes you at 17 with parental consent, 18 otherwise.

1030 has it also. That is "how" Chrome's multi-process works.

It's very different to me. Past forums I have been on were very topic-limited. MSFN has a much broader base and topics are like sinusoids. Lots of ups. Lots of downs. Active threads jump around quite a bit. You'll have one month were the "overactive" thread is all StartAllBack. The next month the "overactive" topic is a Roytam thread. The next month the "overactive" thread is XP antivirus. That's a very broad base and I have to put "filters" in place to HIDE (out of sight, out of mind) when uninteresting-to-me "overactive" topics make the topics that I am interested in seem like a needle in a haystack. The drama and elitist attitude, I tie that to this being a "pensioner hangout", which I definitely see it as. Think of a teenager - they "know it all" but don't really know anything, doesn't prevent them from coming across as "know-it-alls". The "pensioner hangout", on the other hand, is at an age with "years of wisdom" but still the arrogance of not fading into the sunset and handing the reigns over to the next generation (whether they are prepared to take the reigns or not we kind of have to blame ourselves, we brought them up, afterall). Or something like that...

All I can do is laugh so hard that I'm crying. Metaphorically speaking. A little over two years ago, the "web" basically forced me to migrate from NM28 to 360Chrome because I want ONE browser to do ALL of my internet needs. Two years ago, I could no longer pay my water bill via NM28 and 360Chrome became my ONE browser for ALL of my internet needs. This month's water bill will not open in 360Chrome but does open in latest NM28 (but I do not own a phone and require Google Voice which does not work in NM28 or St52 or St55). I guess I have until next month's water bill to see if I can polyfill whatever in Hades my water bill company just rolled out. It's a vicious and unending circle!

Smaller number equals faster.

Smaller number equals faster.

Higher number equals faster.

My process count is identical when comparing 1030 with 2036. RAM on 2036 is only 4MB more than 1030 - not worth worrying about. I show 2036 to be slightly FASTER. And when it comes to squeezing the turnip, every FRACTION of performance is welcomed so I run 2036.

I guess another way to look at it is think back and there were things like "Yahoo Groups" and when you think back at those days and compare to today, nobody does "forums" anymore, nobody does "message boards" anymore. It's a Facebook and Twitter universe. WinCert and MSFN and RyanVM, they weren't created to be Facebook. But it doesn't take a lot of looking to see how Facebook "persona" infiltrates MSFN at times.

I don't see that. I see a GIGANTIC difference "pre-covid" and "post-covid". From "road rage" to "net etiquette", the world has changed! It may appear to be Window-version based, but how much of that is that folks running 10 or 11 "never heard of" MSFN? Is there really any reason for the 10's and 11's to be here? Certainly much less than the 98's and the XP's and the Vista's and the 7's.

I am a moderator on a Proxomitron forum (two of them but one isn't around anymore). Not much traffic these days but was way more active than MSFN when the Proxomitron Community had a guy by the name of "sidki3003" (if I remember the name correctly, don't have that bookmark here at work). The Proxomitron forum never had these types of "events".

I can say "I tried" to tone it down. But yeah, I'm done with that thread for a few days, lol.

I find the two to perform comparable to each other and do not see 1030 as "much faster".

No. No, not really. But the original developers of 1030 define it as "experimental" and do not recommend it for daily use. Depends entirely on the web sites that you visit. NONE of my weekly/daily visited web sites requre ANY of them. But it's so extremely easy just to install them and with essentially zero impact on performance that the risk-reward is humongous to the upside, have it "ready" for that 1 out of 10,000 web sites that isn't going to work without them. Only time will tell just how "mainstream" any of these will become. If they become "mainstream", then that 1 out of 10,000 (purely plucked from the sky) web sites today will turn into 1 out of 100 web sites a few months from now.

Yep.