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If you mention that Is there something like WinISo, but free? Simple drag and drop ISO editor? I now that there is < 100 MB free version of WinISO.

Not big change, but i will try it is there some utility capable onscreen (OSD) temperate + performance monitoring for Windows 98 in fullscreen Windows 98 apps (simply something like Afterburner for modern Windows)? I know that there is possibility to log these measurements to text file with Aida, but i want something better, otherwise is solution run application in the window.

CloneCD virtual driver, tested on other machine, but what about GPT 3TB disc on second Asmedia port, could that be a difference(i know that im writing on different disc, but..), or its entairly ignore, i would how about testing with GPT you did?

Thanks for reply i will address it later, i only want to mention that im still waiting on PCIE-PCI adpater for X99 board it could be issues less to, Asus AMD970 could be only problematic setup. I cant really test all on my 2 other production Z97 machines, unless i will ready for migration Unraid (i plan to use both standard multiboot physical installation + Unraid boot (from your pespective Unraid just means more dedicated storage devices, which could / should be ignored by normal OSes - XFS filesystem or other strange Linux FS, one partition only) - there just would be other Grub item for Unraid) and for that i need working Dual (Triple) GPU stunt, i hoped that i will test in on AMD970 board, but there are problem, maybe X99 would be better.. Plan is to have in 1 machine which best GPU for W98, second for XP and third for modern Windows, Linux, MacOS etc. I there would be problem from you patches perspective i coul be dedicate PCI-E controller for Unraid and just disable it in Win98+, only problem would be slots and space, 3 big GPUs covers 2 or 3 slots.. There is also some old HP z400 Xeon machine on the way, there is could be tested, it will arrive probably next week. I also seems to would have 5,6 more old small proper IDE/SATA HDD from my friend, but im not sure i today or tomorrow, or and end of next week, all is in the process.

I installed DX9 a lot in last days, clean Win98SE installation not need any other prerequisites.. Maybe it is nonsense, but more could safe is upgrade step by step DX6 to DX7,DX7-8, DX8-DX8.1.. etc..

What is wrong with my Streaming proxy theory? I would like to test it, it met all my machines (no proxy, no playback, proxy ok playback ok), but i need to help with this device installation.. I cant install it from INF, its in ksfilter.inf ..

Just other info to the puzzle, i didnt too much testing, but Geforce 7950GT and same problematic Intel Gb NIC on Z97 Gigabyte board (info about board could be found in other thread, im a bit in hurry), are running fine, only difference is no Sata patch, because im using PCI-E to IDE Micron controller + PCI USB NEC controller (because onboard original is not running), i dont know if matters. Clean install, HimemX, no other patches except NVSIZE. No USP3, nUSB 3.6 Never saw Nvidia dll problem on this machine and its running few hours.. I would have tens issues for same time on AMD970 machine. So my issues could be AMD970 related and patches working at least somewhere.. Only problem with this setup are mouse slowdowns, which are probably related to Micron PCI-E controller and IDE to SD card adapter.. there is not disc in Device manager to setup DMA, it probably running without it. I had no such issues with other PCI IDE adapter which i used before, but i had to clean 1 PCI slot for NIC. I would like to use proper storage, but all my spared device are already used and so im using Memory cards, i though that 5 spared SDD/HDDs would be enough..

Ok and what about shutdown? Its still possible without ACPI, make Widnows 98 ATX shutdown working? ATX shutdown in mean shutdown without press shutdown button, only through SW.

I really dont know if is Direct9 officially supported on W98, last safe and not problematic could be 8.1b, but i never had problem with Dxdiag, but there some strange DX9 installer which are only extracting data, which should be installer in next step, or only SDK which are not DirectX runtime replacement.

I usually go first one, right after boot to desktop. I really dont know what for are Nvidia dll for first place.. but it is something important, i have tried to dont use them in msconfig, i think that i had less issues, but i still had NVSVC service issues, no full fix, explorer was not really usable.. whole UOND 82.69 and patch for it is dead end and there should be big warning on main page in patch description, if would know it, wouldnt buy Geforce 79xx card or patch for it.. It has to be there, i too many scans i really dont remember what i scanned and when, there is new one: I have found my NIC really cheaply on ebay, maybe you could invest some buck for to testing is cheaper that ship my adapter to your doors: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabit-Ethernet-LAN-Low-Profile-PCI-Network-Controller-Card-Module-10-100-1000/371576955920?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 It working seamessly with newer Windows are it is recognized as proper intel hw, so it should work with Win98 too. 0 0 0: 1002:5a14 1002:5a14 0600 00 02 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ff 0 0 2: 1002:5a23 1002:5a23 0806 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 100 0 2 0: 1002:5a16 0000:0000 0604 00 00 0 0 10100 2000e1e1 fe00fc00 dff1c001 0 Bridge 0 5 0: 1002:5a19 0000:0000 0604 00 00 0 0 20200 200001f1 fe30fe30 1fff1 0 Bridge 0 7 0: 1002:5a1b 0000:0000 0604 00 00 0 0 30300 200001f1 fe20fe20 1fff1 0 Bridge 0 17 0: 1002:4391 1043:84dd 0106 01 40 f091 f081 f071 f061 f051 fe407000 0 103 0 18 0: 1002:4397 1002:4397 0c03 10 00 fe406000 0 0 0 0 0 0 104 0 18 2: 1002:4396 1002:4396 0c03 20 00 fe405000 0 0 0 0 0 0 20e 0 19 0: 1002:4397 1002:4397 0c03 10 00 fe404000 0 0 0 0 0 0 10b 0 19 2: 1002:4396 1002:4396 0c03 20 00 fe403000 0 0 0 0 0 0 207 0 20 0: 1002:4385 1002:4385 0c05 00 42 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 1: 1002:439c 1043:84de 0101 8f 40 f041 f031 f021 f011 f001 0 0 20e 0 20 3: 1002:439d 1002:439d 0601 00 40 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 4: 1002:4384 0000:0000 0604 01 40 0 0 40040400 2280d0d0 fe10fe10 fff0 0 Bridge 0 20 5: 1002:4399 1002:4399 0c03 10 00 fe402000 0 0 0 0 0 0 304 0 22 0: 1002:4397 1002:4397 0c03 10 00 fe401000 0 0 0 0 0 0 10f 0 22 2: 1002:4396 1002:4396 0c03 20 00 fe400000 0 0 0 0 0 0 20b 0 24 0: 1022:1600 0000:0000 0600 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 1: 1022:1601 0000:0000 0600 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 2: 1022:1602 0000:0000 0600 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 3: 1022:1603 0000:0000 0600 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 4: 1022:1604 0000:0000 0600 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 5: 1022:1605 0000:0000 0600 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0: 10de:0295 1462:0663 0300 00 a1 fd000000 c000000c 0 fc000004 0 e001 fe000000 10a 2 0 0: 1b21:1142 1043:85bf 0c03 30 00 fe300004 0 0 0 0 0 0 10f 3 0 0: 1b21:1142 1043:85bf 0c03 30 00 fe200004 0 0 0 0 0 0 104 4 5 0: 13f6:0111 13f6:0111 0401 00 10 d001 0 0 0 0 0 0 10b 4 6 0: 8086:100e 8086:002e 0200 00 02 fe140000 fe120000 d101 0 0 0 fe100000 107 Is not ESDI_506 refreshed after NIC installation, it is not issue, Sata driver is working with USP3 for long time. Here i lost the thread, i would need more explanation. Yes bioses are patche, NVcheck is ok on both card. I ment that nvcore.vxd is needed even is bios patched is not true, or what sense make that test? I dont know that is exactly Interrupt fix, i never used anything else than nvcore and pci patch.

Nvcheck is everytime fine, without flashed bios i wasnt able to boot with installed driver in anything else than 640x480x16colors Now we are doing somewhere.. Pleas give me a list for 82.69, im using 81.98 with my Geforce 6600GT im not aware any not specific game related issues.. Offtopic but interesting is that even on new Geforce 970 is command.com, working in safe mode but not on patched Geforce 7950GT - maybe it could be MSI thing i dont know, but in that case maybe i would be good idea use something like generic Nvidia bios is it exist or Bios from other vendor if is working..

Some older stuff, i havent time for proper response.. General: If im not wrong, it wasnt mentioned in the readme, retro machine without CD driver in DOS sucks and not all machine have 2 different controllers.. and other complication is that you buying AHCI patch for dont need to use IDE at first place (for cdrom you need to use controller in IDE mode). Any change to improvement in the future? Amd970: Fro all testing i have disabled onboard NIC and Audio, because there are not working on Win98 AFAIK. Conroe: I trying to keep things clean on new systems, but Conroe original install is really tuned and i had lots of other candidates for freezing.. I shame that something like Task manager improvement, actually do such things. Geforce 6600 GT, official drivers are there, otherwise no issues, but when i on Login windows, press Cancel, i got final BSoD, so it has to something with graphics. Yeah is detected. If it is, post the Output of: 0 0 0: 8086:2570 1849:2570 0600 00 02 e0000008 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0: 8086:2571 0000:0000 0604 00 02 0 0 20010100 22a000f0 fe90fa90 dfe0bff0 0 Bridge 0 29 0: 8086:24d2 1849:24d0 0c03 00 02 0 0 0 0 e001 0 0 10a 0 29 1: 8086:24d4 1849:24d0 0c03 00 02 0 0 0 0 e401 0 0 20e 0 29 2: 8086:24d7 1849:24d0 0c03 00 02 0 0 0 0 e801 0 0 30f 0 29 3: 8086:24de 1849:24d0 0c03 00 02 0 0 0 0 ec01 0 0 10a 0 29 7: 8086:24dd 1849:24d0 0c03 20 02 febffc00 0 0 0 0 0 0 40b 0 30 0: 8086:244e 0000:0000 0604 00 c2 0 0 20020200 2280b0b0 fea0fea0 fff0 0 Bridge 0 31 0: 8086:24d0 0000:0000 0601 00 02 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 31 1: 8086:24db 1849:24d0 0101 8a 02 1 1 1 1 fc01 0 0 100 0 31 2: 8086:24d1 1849:24d1 0101 8f 02 d401 d001 cc01 c801 c401 0 0 10f 0 31 3: 8086:24d3 1849:24d0 0c05 00 02 0 0 0 0 401 0 0 203 0 31 5: 8086:24d5 1849:0850 0401 00 02 d801 dc01 febff800 febff400 0 0 0 203 1 0 0: 10de:00f1 1458:3150 0300 00 a2 fd000000 c0000008 fc000000 0 0 0 fe9e0000 10a 2 4 0: 8086:107c 8086:1376 0200 00 05 feac0000 feaa0000 bc01 0 0 0 fea80000 107 There is message that Bios not assign IRQ to controller and in resource that is that resource are not used, but about details there is:

Thanks i will test it, expected that there would something like Registry key for it, i tried myself through ACPI.sys file deletion and try to avoid to installation of ACPI related drivers, but i wrote HW detection wizard is still forcing it and driver were autoimported from SP3.cab.

Before Desktop appears, but not immediately after windows boot logo i would say that it is in the second part of loading. I will check bootlog. Update bootlog is quite long, hangs on Sata driver: [000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = SPOOLER [000CFC0F] DEVICEINIT = UDF [000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = UDF [000CFC0F] DEVICEINIT = VFAT [000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VFAT [000CFC0F] DEVICEINIT = VDEF [000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VDEF [000CFC0F] Initing vclone.mpd [000CFC09] Init Success vclone.mpd [000CFC09] Initing esdi_506.pdr

So question is, exist USB audio *.vxd driver?

Have you tried to remove Microsoft audio proxy + reboot too?

I thing that i did, but as i said would be really great to some better checking utility to has to be sure, that similar switches are ok, pciscan and nvcheck are great but i could be much better.. Holy grail would be something like early 90s games setup.exe, which would had auto detection and check functions and simple Y/N logic.. This checker could be even started in autoexec start scanpci parse its results + from parameters (lits of patches which should be installed) it could check installed patches and reinstall it is something wrong or ask in Y/N logic user if he want some optimal switch like /m or split8MB etc.. Its not hard coding if checks could run in true dos and you have knowledge how to recognize patched or unpatched file and what configuration patch need to run properly..

And could you pleas describe some how to?

I did short test, boot into Dos prompt renamed some file a copied 50MB file is was fine, im even able to boot into safe mode, even there copy file was fine, i removed (purgehdc p a) Sata controller (only 1 is here), rebooted into normal mode, Sata controller was detected, reboot - c: writing problem - i have 215 MB free on HDD it is i hope enough for just boot..

Thanks for help, but Mixer (Smesovac in czech) is already here as you can see on the picture, there need to be something else, i really thing that it would be that proxy (there is lots of devices, but any difference between working and not working systems) I even removed and added mixer again, rebooted, nothing.. This normal mode, only removed and re-added devices are there ( why arent now hidden i dont know), in safe mode are more devices.

Im trying to something on old installation (installed with ACPI), but system devices often collide with ACPI Embedded somehing, ACPI Bios.. and ACPI IRQ something mutipletimes, but these devices are found only after Add new HW Wizard search, otherwise after System device removal and PCI bus addition they are not there.. but add new hw wizzard also find usefull devices after search.. and there are probably other ACPI related issues.

As i wrote on Intel controller Windows 98 running fine, i have tried Sata 5 -which i have deployed outside of case through pci bracket (it has 2 ports, 1 is connected to SATA5, second to A0, is good for testing, Intel has even working hotplug), it running fine, problem is related only to Asmedia controller and i want to use Asmedia because it could be in IDE mode forever.. Intel cant is used for other OSes, and if it would run on Asmedia and dont need to buy 1 more AHCIBIOS patch :), so i would keep Install and i will need to buy 1 more Sata patch.

Ok, i finally had some time to check few things and write about my AMD970 situation. Little summary machine is otherwise stable and running fine in WinXP and Windows 7, component are always the same. HW: 1) FX 8 core cpu + Asus M5A97 R2.0 - AMD970 board, last bios. 2) MSI 7950GT 512 MB PCI-E (i have two of them, tested both) 3) Soundcard CMI8738 PCI - no problems with soundcard on this setup, tried even different Soundcard in the process and no Nosound card or USB sound only. 4) Intel PCI 1 Gb/s NIC, detected as Intel 1000S MT desktop adapter (by other oses, official Intel last driver) Bellow is just 1 run of memtest picture without error, only 1 hour, but i ran whole day and was the was and my issues are consitent doent matters if is right after cold boot or after of 10 hours of running, its not wary. Storages are test, all ok. I have 3 setups (below) and problems one 2 you them - cleans install are pretty consistent, thring older migrated install has problem before i would able to simulate, same issues. A) Clean install, 40 GB HDD Seagate, WIn98 one and only partition on HDD. Sata patch - running fine. MEMpach and SPLIT installed, tested with or without System.in limiter to 1024 MB. NIC installed before Nvidia drivers - running fine. Nvidia card - installed last Errors appeared. NO HW conflicts. No USB drivers for just to be sure. NO USP3. State: Explorer errors related to Nvidia.dlls B) Clean install,Seagate 160 GB, testing 10 GB partion on start of disk, but for sure Terabyte pack, ATA patche installed, LBA48 is ok. Sata patch no issues. Himem.exe limited to 1024MB. NO HW conflicts. No issue unless is NIC installed. No USB drivers for just to be sure. NO USP3. State: Explorer errors related to Nvidia.dlls C) Migrated install, installed without /p i option - i didnt know that 5+ years, but except USB audios issues (fixable) was tested on 7+ boards.. ago. Czech Windows 98 SE, all other installation are ENG. SSD 120GB Intel 320 - first 10 GB for FAT32 Win98. Sata patch - running fine Patchmem (for to be sure limited to 1024 via System.ini), SPLIT8MB State: Machine running fine, unless is 1Gb NIC added, after that i cant even normal boot, bought RAM patch (SPLIT8MB) which should to fix it, but i never was able to boot after NIC driver installatiom. USP3 installed, USB stack removed to minimize issues, no HW conflicts.. With Intel 100S - slower NIC is running fine. Error is System protection error and in boolog is error about ESDI_506 when i add Intel NIC, i really dont know why, because otherwise Sata patch is running fine. But Nvidia related errors are there even without NIC driver installed, errors are the same.. ----------- D,E,F - had some memory cards in Sata or IDE adapters install to, it was all the same behavior.. nvidia dll erros, after all device drivers were installed.. I have Geforce 7800 256 MB on the way but it could take 2 weeks, after i would be able to test same setup without patched Nvidia driver. Bellow are Explorer errors related to Nvidia, are very often after 1 GB NIC drivers are installed. As i maybe wrote, i see 3 main reasons for my problems: 1) Unofficial Nvidia driver is really junk and not working on any computer, it was recommended for me here so i dont believe in it too much. 2) Something in the Nvidia patch need to adjusted /added to work with Intel 1000S MT Desktop (which could be in theory junk too, but i dont have any other on Nvidia driver to collide with it) I hope that someone understand Windows on ASM registry level and could say something about it.. A) 40GB pictures, some picture are blurry but originals are readable.. B) 160 GB Nvcheck: Just after command.com run broken gui: \ C) Bootlog hangs on ESDI after 1 GB NIC is driver is installed (Update added some new pictures here):

I still not had enough write to write proper and response, but i just isolated that problem is not ram patch, problem is combination of G7950GT patched driver + my Intel 1000 MT Desktop adapter NIC. I first time managed to make them boot (clean installation) together with himem.exe and its same as with Rloew ram patch, is Explorer is very unstable and all errors are nvidia dlls related.. No conflict in device manager, but something in that combination is really wrong. I will post some picture with error messages later. Games or other apps are working, but when i doing anything in explorer i dont have minute without error. I changed order of installation and installed NIC, Audio and first and videocard driver later and before it, all was fine. There is very small change that unofficial driver is really bugged and that i normal, but i dont want to believe that, because otherwise make fix for it does not make a sense and whole Geforce 7 512 MB Windows 98 GPU case would be dead end, so it has to be conflict with the patched driver..