oh god help us jcarle. not one of these again... intel 2.8 and amd 2.8 mean completely different things. to put it in simple terms, intel does only a little per clock cycle, therefore it needs more clock cycles to do the job. amd does alot per clock cycle, therefore needs less clock cycles. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103602 this is a 3200 venice, the 3200 means its about the same speed as a 3.2 intel but it only runs at 2.0ghz