Jody Thornton

It's not off-topic at all. He's saying you can use a more readily available extraction tool, instead of messing around with WinRAR, especially since any version you can use on XP will not extract the RAR archives you want to read. Just source 7-Zip 9.20. Having paid for WinRAR, you can still use it on your modern OS releases. As for MPC, I use MPC-HC v1.71. What can't it play?

I asked already (twice) - and he won't. I am using it on Windows 8 Pro x64 now, as a 32-bit program. I'm just hoping Tobin will re-emerge with an x64 build.

Well the Linux community has no issue about leaving x86 behind. I'm not making a religion out of it. I just don't see the point of settling with an x86 build when in actual fact, x64 is de facto standard in 2023. It seems as much as I'm supposedly being "religious" about it, many here are stubbornly resisting my idea By the way, isn't there a 64-bit edition of XP too? I would think many would like to run a 64-bit mail client there too. I'm not trying to be smarmy. It's just that when I make a reasonable ask, and I have to listen to all of the protest of my opinion, it gets fatiguing. Nothing personal. I've already accepted that I'll no longer ask for an x64 build of MailNews, so we're all good.

MailNews IS based on Interlink. That's why the BinOC reference is there, for Interlink (mail) and Borealis (browser). I'm running MailNews for now, with the hopes that Tobin releases a new Interlink, so i may go back to it.

Thanks - mind you I have tried both Epyrus and SeaMonkey for quite awhile now. I'm just not as big on their UI. I really liked Tobin's interface for Interlink (which WAS an x64 build - why is it that everyone is curious about that? I simply want 64-bit binaries for my x64 OS). Anyway, I have been waiting for forever for Tobin to come out with an update, as he keeps saying he will. I customize the UI with the Photonic theme and it really looks snazzy on Windows 8. Again, I appreciate your chiming in.

Still I prefer to use an application natively, rather than through x86 emulation if I can. I don't see that as "just because". However, even if that were the case, I still prefer to run an application that utilizes the native bus-width of the OS I'm using. My choice - good enough reason for me

Is DeramMail Pro available in x64 builds?

I must have missed this thread (or maybe posted a response to someone not knowing where it was). I'm an Interlink refugee, and while I can move to MailNews (since Tobin has not updated Interlink in a year and a half now), I REALLY want to use an x64 build. I realize Roytam1 doesn't want to provide that, but it would have been the PERFECT solution. Has anyone attempted building an x64 build of MailNews? I'm testing the x86 version it on Windows 8, but I would LOVE an x64 build instead. Sigh!

You're still on that "favourite" business? Wow, I've never seen the Queen's English requirement be such a big deal for anybody.

I'm starting to figure this out now. The default (almost Win10/Chrome-like) theme is in chinese. You named your XP-styled theme the exact same in 2036 and 2044 as this theme. I tried copying themes from the default 360 source build and there is no English equivalent to the Win-10 styled theme.

I'll grab one when I get home. I did find the URL for the theme manager for 360 so I've been playing with that. The theme button wasn't on the skin you chose. I will come back to respond

Hey NotHereToPlayGames: Is there a way to set the UI to reflect what was in the Chinese version of 360 that you linked to? I would describe it as looking more like chrome but with the ability to have tabs under the address bar. Thanks for your help.

Must be the UK version. I admit to using US English and haven't ever seen it. How are IE or Edge "iconic"?

I'm from up here in Canuckistan where we also use the Queen's English. However, I always tend to use US English installations, only because I sense somehow that US English is perhaps more compatible, since many applications (and Windows) are developed there. Less adjustment, or chance exists for things to go wrong. However, referring to "Queen's English" spellings as third-grade like is somewhat insulting. Remember, the American spellings are the "simplified" ones that came along later.

Hey NotHereToPlayGames, I'm having some difficulty finding an explanation as to what the primary differences are between builds 2036 and 2044 are. I can recognize UI differences, plus the language issues, but are there actual compatibility or functionality differences? Also is there a ready to run binary of 2044 that I can just extract and run, or is the file replacement guide that you wrote on that thread a necessary part of the process? Thank you

I'm just going to wait for the build 13.5.2036 update that NotHereToPlayGames might post. I only use it on the one notebook that runs Vista Home Basic. I have Serpent 52 for Reddit. I'll have to be careful on MyPal 68.

Well I guess we are never going to find out. I created a new profile, and it loaded. I used version 91 of the add on this time. I've imported all of my settings from the old profile, so we're good. But everyone, thank you for your help. Jody

I noticed a new issue just yesterday. I run the add on "New Tab Tools", and as of yesterday, all of the tiles have disappeared. I tried doing some background image customization, yet nothing would take. I removed the add on, and installed a previously supported version (I stuck with v90). It installs, but this error comes up on a "new tab" page: New Tab Tools couldn't start properly. Try these: If cookies are disabled, add an exception for moz-extension://be8bed7c-155b-46a3-8bdd-15e1205e34fc/. Go to about:config and check dom.indexedDB.enabled is set to true. You will need to restart New Tab Tools (or just restart Firefox) for these changes to have an effect. New Tab Tools cannot start if Firefox is set to "never remember history" or "always open in private browsing mode". I added the boolean pref and set ti to "true", but I still get the error. Hmmmm. Well if anyone has any ideas as to what may have happened, I'm all ears. Thanks.

Right! But I'll not partake in the ESU stuff. I'll just run Windows 8 with the final October update, then I'll be really careful for a year. After Firefox ESR 115 bites the dust, there will no longer be a currently supported browser to lean on, except maybe Supermium. If MyPal 68 evolved into a working x64 browser, then maybe I'd have a case to remain with Windows 8 for longer, but I doubt it. As of 2025, I have another box setup with Windows 10 LTSC 2019, that I'll migrate to.

Be careful.. We're not supposed to mention that tool. But it's good to know it's working. I'm a tad spoiled over at Windows 8 Land. Here I just download and install. I have apparently two more updates coming my way. I'm not sure if what is considered to be "unspoken" will work in my case beyond that, however, I was going to stop updating Windows after October's final patch. I'll just keep updating Firefox ESR 115, and manually updating Windows Defender as long as possible. After that, I'll retire Windows 8 at the close of 2024.

I can't believe there hasn't been way louder noise on this. Great Progress!

I don't really disagree. I was just trying to clarify that I'm not a Vista "hater", as the RTM defenders might think. Silly really. I will say though, with the basic theme, SP2 and the Platform update, this unit isn't running all that badly.

Go Ahead! Call Windows 7 or 8 whatever you want. They are just operating systems. I won't get hurt, I promise! By the way, jaclaz commented similarly as I did. He is quite a helpful, seasoned member of MSFN, I doubt he was a wee young lad in 2007. Oh neither was I. I was doing system installs back then, and had for quite awhile. The comment supporting the use of Vista RTM as being problem free are anecdotal at best. whereas I'm sure if you look, you;ll find less than stellar reviews on Vista's release back in early 2007. The funniest thing about all this: I actually came to love Vista later on, once SP2 was applied. And even more funny: I'm typing this post on MyPal 68, using a Dell Inspiron 1420 notebook running .... yes, Vista Home Basic. I was the guy who STARTED the thread for Vista Updates using Server 2008 way back when. So I'm hardly a Vista hater. I just chose to see reality. So everybody relax! Sheesh!

Simmer down. No need to be offended. I did say that Vista redeemed itself with service packs. You'll also notice that I had several upvotes from seasoned forum members, which tell you that many fully agree with my assessment. The original notebooks I setup were DuoCores with 4 GB of RAM. That's what Vista was sold on, and it ran terribly. By the way, I use Vista Home Basic on a 2 GB of RAM Dell Notebook today, and it runs swimmingly. So the original RTM version showed its warts. So no, I don't think Vista users should get offended by performance assessments. I'd be embarrassed to admit such a thing, and I'm a sensitive person to most that know me personally.

Well as of the RTM release, Vista really, REALLY was a s--t pile. It really was. Slow I/O, badly written display drivers, you name it .... However, SP1 and (especially) SP2 cleared away most of those warts, and by the end, I would agree it performed pretty much identically as well as Windows 7. What was never resolved was management and cleanup of the component store. It became huge. However that doesn't bug me any more. I'm perfectly OK now with an OS taking up 15 to 20 GB of disk space now, where I wasn't before. Why? Because I now understand what the component store does, and why it provides sound stability benefits to Windows. As for Windows 8, funnily enough, I can still update using Server 2012 updates without any "tricks". I was hoping the same for my Windows 8.1 brethren, but no such "exact" luck. But Windows 8 has been exceptionally stable, and a VERY GOOD performer.