AstroSkipper

I personally open all TV related websites on my Android tablet. I don't expect that such websites can be successfully accessed by New Moon 28 or Serpent 52. One thing you can do is to open this link in the latest version of Pale Moon under a more modern OS such as Windows 7 or 10. If it also fails there, you can report in the Pale Moon forum. Maybe, one day a fix will come and can be ported then by @roytam1.

That's right. But of course, no proof also does not mean a theory is incorrect. Think, for example, of Fermat's Last Theorem!

This is true if we were talking about quantum physical states. But a theory in the macroscopic space (and that's what we are talking about) can only have one of two states, either true or false. We have to prove it. Until we have done that, we cannot say yes (true) or no (false). But both at once, as in the quantum physical world, that cannot happen in the macroscopic world at all.

That's not what I said. We can't say yes or no. A Boolean evaluation is not possible. Both is possible. That's what I said.

Yep, I used it, too. It is a pity that a project like WiseVector StopX was simply shut down. But I had the impression that the developers only wanted to get their hands on data in order to launch a commercial product on the market and earn money. The users were more like guinea pigs to feed their artificial intelligence (AI) they had implemented into WiseVector StopX.

Hello @George King! Any news for us? Although I am not a Windows XP 64 bit user, I am interested to hear whether you have made any progress in testing. Did you already install Windows XP 64 bit on your testing machine? Greetings, AstroSkipper

@roytam1 has already fixed this security vulnerability in his latest release of New Moon 28: Therefore, setting the pref image.webp.enabled to false is not really needed anymore.

If a user owns a computer equipped with more capable hardware, why should Windows XP be used then? Simple rule: more modern hardware, more modern operation system. I am actually here to support real Windows XP users to inform them about security programmes. And this OS is ideal for old, weak computers. There are many people outside who want to protect their computers and have to use Windows XP due to very old, weak hardware for whatever reasons. People with powerful machines can do what they want to do. Whether it makes sense or not, I leave undecided. I have given my opinion on this often enough here in different threads. And if someone wants or needs to throttle the performance of their computer, then it makes perfect sense to install Avast. In any case, all my articles and investigations are meant to spread information including my experiences whether they are positive or negative. One thing is crystal clear. The mature readers can decide themselves what they want to use as I stated long before.

I think that in these times, where AI is being used more and more, anything is conceivable. Nowadays, even pupils and students have their papers or other essays written by an AI. Ultimately, however, every theory has to be proven, in whatever but correct way. Nevertheless, in today's times, I believe everything is possible. So, the question is not so easy to answer in a Boolean way as you stated. To do this, one would have to analyse the data collected by Google and the Chrome developers, which is not so easy for outsiders. Unless you are a genius hacker. Or, statements would have to be found somewhere that suggest that MSFN actually exerts such a great influence.

Hello guys! I noticed that you mentioned me. Unfortunately, I have not followed everything in detail. Therefore, I would be happy to know which view on which matter is involved here. I have said so many things, so a little tip for an old fart would be quite helpful.

You are absolutely right! Avast Antivirus 4.8 was a version I liked very much, and it is even today installed on my Windows ME partition which still exists only for historical reasons. And as usual in those days, Avast was lightweight and low on resources. How can a manufacturer get so much wrong, considering versions like 18.8 or the very latest?

I thought that should be said at some point, no matter how long these manufacturers continue to support Windows XP. And as for Avast, frankly, I am not really a fan of it anymore, and certainly not of AVG. I would therefore be able to live with the loss...

:OT I use additionally the app AdGuard, which filters the whole traffic of my tablet via a local VPN connection. But I use it only on demand. Very effective. :End of OT

AVG Antivirus Free AVG AntiVirus Free edition provides realtime protection to your Windows PC from viruses, spyware, ransomware, and other malware. It can block unsafe links, downloads, and email attachments before they are run. Present version comes with an added layer of ransomware protection, which also stops hackers from hijacking your webcam. AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0 is the last compatible version with Windows XP and, as the name implies, free of charge. Although AVG AntiVirus Free 18.8.4084.0 doesn't receive programme updates, it still protects Windows XP owners with regular virus definition updates. Main features: Real-Time PC Protection - Instantly protects you against even the latest threats. Web Protection - Scans your devices and blocks unsafe links and downloads. Email Protection - Scans your emails (POP3, IMAP4, SMTP) and blocks unsafe links, downloads and attachments. Homepage: https://www.avg.com/en-us/windows-xp-antivirus#pc http://web.archive.org/web/20181129115122/https://www.avg.com/en-us/windows-xp-antivirus Version number: 18.8.4084.0 Date of release: 26.11.2018 System requirements: Compatibel with Microsoft Windows 11, 10, 8, 7 und XP. Version history: There is none. Tests: https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/real-world-protection-test-july-november-2018/ https://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/avc_prot_2018b_en.pdf Reviews: https://www.techradar.com/reviews/avg-antivirus-free https://www.technadu.com/avg-antivirus-free-review/13191/ User experiences: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184730-antimalware-firewall-and-other-security-programs-for-windows-xp-working-in-2023-and-hopefully-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=1253727 by @WSC4 Download links: Online installer: http://web.archive.org/web/20181129115104if_/https://install.avcdn.net/avg/iavs9x/avg_antivirus_free_setup.exe Offline installer: https://install.avcdn.net/avg/iavs9x-xp/avg_antivirus_free_setup_offline.exe Virus database offline updater: https://install.avcdn.net/avinitro/aviupd.exe Uninstaller: And a further tool associated with this AVG version is the AVG Clear 18.8.4084.0 to get rid of all installed components if necessary: https://install.avcdn.net/avg/iavs9x-xp/avgclear.exe Screenshots: Besides all the "objective" facts I have listed above, now some of my own experiences I made in the past. And to be fair, the positives first. AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0 seems to have a good detection rate in recognising malware as stated in the tests performed by AV comparatives. AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0 offers a real-time PC protection. It is free of charge, compatible with Windows XP, and it still receives definition updates. Now, the negatives. The installation package and the programme itself is unfortunately bloated such as Avast Free Antivirus 18.8.4084.0. Not to mention the resource consumption I had to observe which is especially a problem on old, weak computers. In my opinion, AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0 is a cheap imitation of Avast Free Antivirus 18.8.4084.0. As reported by me several times, I had various problems with Avast. But AVG takes the cake. After installing, AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0 caused only problems, crashed my Windows XP computer, and generated BSODs. That's why I provided the download link to AVG Clear 18.8.4084.0 to get rid of this version completely if you should suffer from similar problems. AVG or more precisely Avast does not provide an own version history for AVG Antivirus Free. IMHO, the choice between AVG and Avast is actually a bit like between plague and cholera , but I would always choose Avast if I had to. This is hopefully never the case again, though. TBH, I actually have listed AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0 here only for completeness to let the users decide themselves. Cheers, AstroSkipper PS: The research for this article was hell. Useful information about AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0 was almost impossible to find. The support (Avast) only points to their own Avast products. If someone is looking for support for AVG Antivirus Free 18.8.4084.0, he can expect something. And I don't mean anything good by that. Personally, I will think three times from now on whether I write anything about AVG again.

No, you are not the only one. :OT I use the following browsers on my Android 9.0 tablet with a Mediatek MT8163 CPU: Opera, Kiwi, Brave, Firefox and very rarely Chrome. TBH, I don't like the pure Android Chrome browser. Opera and Kiwi are much better. In Kiwi, you can even use extensions what is impossible in the pure Android Chrome browser. So, I am able to use uBlock Origin to get rid of ads. Same in Firefox. Opera has a built-in ad blocker. Firefox is in the version 117.1.0 and if I understood correctly, this version is not affected. Right? :End of OT

Thanks for the hint! That makes sense to me, of course. To be honest, I hadn't thought about it at all. Except for this user style, however, I have never used any before. I will modify my script immediately as suggested when I am back at my desktop computer. I tested your modified CSS style in New Moon 28, and now, it works as it should. If only a website breaks, then it doesn't matter for me and is much better than breaking the browser GUI. I definitely need an intact download window in New Moon 28. The download window in New Moon 28 is no longer negatively affected when the CSS style disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely is activated. So, I'll leave it activated as I did before. Thanks again!

If only a website breaks, then it doesn't matter for me and is much better than breaking the browser GUI. I definitely need an intact download window in New Moon 28.

Thanks for the hint! That makes sense to me, of course. To be honest, I hadn't thought about it at all. Except for this user style, however, I have never used any before. I will modify my script immediately as suggested when I am back at my desktop computer.

FYI, the CSS userstyle https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely has unfortunately a negative impact in New Moon 28 on the download window which is not flexible anymore when this CSS style is activated. I use the extension GetEmAll!, which adds two entries to the download window, and the extension Grabit, which also adds a further entry to the download window. With the CSS style disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely activated, the Save and Cancel buttons sometimes disappear completely or are partially cut off. The whole download window seems to be invariable in size. That's why I only use this script on demand from now on.

Basically, it should also be mentioned here that it is actually incredible to still have companies providing antimalware programmes for Windows XP, an operating system for which support was officially discontinued in 2014, quite apart from whether or not these programmes meet the often high demands of users. And by that I really mean all the manufacturers that still support Windows XP (and also Windows Vista) in any form in these days, such as Malwarebytes, Panda, Avast, MicroWorld Technologies Inc, AVG (actually Avast again), Qihoo 360, Glarysoft, and so on. I think a thank you for that to them all was long overdue. AstroSkipper

@WSC4 BTW, your linked review of Panda Antivirus Free is from 09.06.2021 and hasn't been updated since then. Therefore, it does not refer to the more recent versions of Panda Antivirus Free. This test already linked by me is most recent from 11.09.2023: https://www.experte.com/antivirus/panda But as I already stated, those tests that are not performed by independent testing laboratories should be taken with extreme caution. They are not really objective which is a problem in general. Very often, missing features that no one really needs are the reason for bad results. Cheers, AstroSkipper

@WSC4 These tests should be taken with extreme caution. There were positive tests, but also negative ones. For me, Panda Antivirus Free ran very well and did its job without any problems a few months ago. I would reinstall it again immediately if Malwarebytes one day no longer provided virus definitions under Windows XP. BTW, the main reason for using Malwarebytes is that I own a lifetime licence. And one thing should not be forgotten. Under Windows XP, you can't be as picky as under new operating systems that are supported by all manufacturers. Here are a few more tests and reviews for you to read: https://www.experte.com/antivirus/panda https://www.lifewire.com/panda-free-antivirus-review-1356582 https://www.av-comparatives.org/vendors/panda/ https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/manufacturer/panda-security/ Greetings, AstroSkipper

I know. I tested Panda Antivirus Free months ago and used it a longer time. It worked great in my system. Windows XP Professional SP3 32 Bit is simply great. @George King As I don't use Windows XP 64 bit, it would be great if you can do additionally some tests under this OS. Maybe, a fully updated Windows XP 64 bit is necessary to get Panda Antivirus Free installed. I performed a deeper research via Google and found a lot of similar reports about .NET Framework 4 problems under different OSes when installing Panda Antivirus Free. In Windows 7, for example, a system patch seems to be necessary if the .NET Framework 4 error occurs. Anyway! One thing is totally clear. Any form of help in testing is very welcome and much appreciated. Greetings, AstroSkipper

@WSC4 Did you read my first, introducing post of this thread? Here is a short quotation: In my Alphabetical list of working antimalware, firewall, and other security programmes for Windows XP, I will list only those programmes which were reviewed by me in the form of an article with all necessary information. I keep an internal list of 77 security programmes and services (as of 15.09.2023). I already reviewed 24 of them. So, there is still a lot to do. And of course, AVG is on this list, too. I will write an article about it soon. And I'll do that although I don't like AVG due to bad experiences I made in the past. But, as I already said, this project is very extensive and involves a lot of work. And, it's not my only project here on MSFN. I am very experienced in writing articles, and that's no problem, either. But, the most time-consuming actions are thorough researching, testing, and sometimes, fixing problems as in the case of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.75.0.1300. Therefore, my official list will only fill up slowly. And that means, any form of help is very welcome and much appreciated. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

Thanks for your efforts! TBH, I think there is something missing in Windows XP 64 bit. But in the end, we have to accept that Panda Antivirus Free is not compatible with this OS due to problems in recognising an already existing .NET Framework 4 installation. Panda Antivirus Free can't be installed out of the box although .NET Framework 4 is installed apparently properly. Personally, I am glad that I use Windows XP Professional SP3 32 bit (including all POSReady updates).