AstroSkipper

You mean something like Speeddial for Firefox and Pale Moon? If so, try Speed Dial 2: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/speed-dial-2-new-tab/jpfpebmajhhopeonhlcgidhclcccjcik or Visual bookmarks: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/visual-bookmarks/jdbgjlehkajddoapdgpdjmlpdalfnenf or Simple Speed Dial (looks similar to old Speeddial): https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/simple-speed-dial/gpdpldlbafdmhlmcdllcjgoigmpjonfc Cheers, AstroSkipper

I forgot a zero and corrected my post, so not 64 KB but 640 KB RAM. Although totally off-topic (sorry for that!), I forgot to mention two very old computers I own: an Atari 800 XL with 64 KB RAM of year 1984 and an Atari 1040 ST with 1 MB RAM (upgraded to unbeliebable 4 MB) of year 1986. Both Atari computers are working and fully functional in today. That was quality at its finest and will never be repeated. My Atari 800 XL is 38 and my Atari 1040 ST 36 years old. And they have survived hard times!

A less-than-ideal solution for the error code 0x80072efe or 0x80096010 caused by the AU client in Windows XP If you notice the error code 0x80072efe or 0x80096010 in your system event log and you want to get rid of these errors in a fully updated Windows XP system, you have simply to turn off Automatic Updates in AU applet located in control panel. The reasons for these errors are different and described in detail in another post of mine: Cheers, AstroSkipper

No problems here when opening, closing and opening again settings in V11.

Which error message? Never seen one when opening the settings.

I totally agree! I do never store passwords in any browsers, but for me there is a significant difference between an European build and Russian or Chinese build of a browser due to telemetry, security, sense of justice, influence of goverment, political motivation ... and therefore trust in such creators.

I do think so too but last not least it's a question of confidence, of course! I usually store passwords in Keepass and use an addon to access them. All passwords in one place. For me simply great.

I would never store any passwords in a browser of Russian or Chinese origin. Therefore 360Chrome is fully portable for me!

In 1986 my first personal computer with the 8088 cpu had only 640 KB RAM too. No harddisk, only two 5.25 floppy devices.

Good to know that it worked for you. Of course, Mypal 68 is in an early state of development. We will see what it will be. But I think it is a very interesting and promising project.

An experimental solution for the error code 0x80072F78 while accessing the WU/MU website If on the WU/MU website the error code 0x80072F78 appears, turn off your firewall temporarily. If MU is working now, add the program "wuauClt.exe" into the exception list of your firewall and turn your firewall back on. In any case, ProxHTTPSProxy or HTTPSProxy must not be blocked by your firewall. Same for Internet Explorer, of course. This is rather an experimental solution. In a lot of cases, this tip had helped users to solve the error code 0x80072F78. Try it if you are affected! Maybe it works for you. Cheers! AstroSkipper

I totally agree! BTW did you try Mypal 68 with my settings above in single mode process?

That's right. I am a bit old school and I love my old computer. RAM can't be extended anymore and therefore I prefer browsers with less RAM consumption. V11 is the best choice for me too.

Hi @NotHereToPlayGames, I did some further tests. In my old system only 360Chrome version 11 is the only one I should use. Starting with launch parameter --process-per-site, an empty tab and four installed extensions I got a RAM usage of 260 MB. That's fine. I'll try to open tabs as less as possible i.e. not more than 3 tabs. Under these conditions the overall performance is definitely okay for me. Thanks again for your tests and information! Cheers! AstroSkipper

Of course, I know that but opening tabs in Chrome browsers are consuming much more RAM than opening them in a browser supporting single process mode. Therefore it is problematic for my old system. But do not misinterpret my statements, I appreciate your work here and it is great to have a more recent Chrome alternative in Windows XP. And RAM uconsumption is a problem caused by developer and not by you.

Chinese installers are great! Aren't they?

Thanks for your quick reply! I do not focus. on process count only. I do focus on RAM usage. Each new opened tab consumes nearly 100 MB. Currently I have three different tabs and only one extension in 360 Chrome and a RAM usage of 93 + 90 + 110 + 113 + 90 = 496 [MB]. Each more tab means nearly 100MB more. Sorry, too much. In Mypal 68 I have three different tabs and two extension consuming only 400 MB. Therefore 20 percent less RAM usage. It makes definitely a difference running a browser in multi process or single process mode.

Correct! For me too! I tried it and RAM usage was worse. In Chrome there is no single process mode anymore. It existed in Chromium (--single-process) but due to the fact that I avoided Chrome browsers in the past I don't know if it is still supported. 360Chrome version 11 crashes with the launch parameter --single-process. Therefore 360Chrome browser and, after a short research, presumeably all Chrome browsers do not have a single process mode anymore. I agree if Mypal 68 is running in multi process mode. But Mypal 68 can be used in a single process mode using these about:config settings: browser.tabs.remote.autostart false dom.ipc.processCount 1 In this mode you'll have only one instance of mypal.exe with less RAM consumption. Starting Mypal 68 with these settings in my system leads to a RAM usage of less than 300 MB. What do you think about launch parameter --process-per-site in 360Chrome? On some web sites this parameter is recommended to reduce RAM consumption. I rather doubt that. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Hi @NotHereToPlayGames, at first my compliment for your hard work here! You made it possible to have a more recent Chrome browser in Windows XP without annoying Chinese language strings. Thanks for that! Now I have a question relating to the RAM consumption of your 360Chrome editions. I use Windows XP on a very old computer with only 1.5 GB RAM. Is there an option to reduce RAM consumption significantly? Maybe a kind of single process mode as in Mypal 68? AFAIK people are advised to use 360Chrome version 11 on older systems. I tried your 360Chrome version 11 and 13.5, but in both cases the RAM consumption is very high starting the browser with an empty tab only. Any recommendations? Cheers, AstroSkipper

Thanks for your complement! But to get manually rid of an addon (remove function doesn't work properly, indeed), the file extensions.json is the most important. The other files prefs.js, extension-preferences.json and extension-settings.json contain only preferences and settings, and do not harm i.e. can be left there. Cleaning these files isn't necessary, and for a lot of people it is simply too complicated, I think. In folder storage\default\moz-extension+++* the symbol * is a string of numbers and letters until ^userContextId=. For example ee6c8d43-8548-44cf-8b7a-f045e5a7edd9 is relating to adblockultimate@adblockultimate.net. Where do I get this information from? Simply open site about:config and search for this string! In Preference Name extensions.webextensions.uuids you'll find the answer. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Here is a tip how to get completely rid of an installed addon in Mypal 68: 1. You have to find out the extension ID of that addon. Click Help -> Troubleshooting Information. In section Extensions you can copy the related ID. 2. Under Tools -> Add-ons remove the problematic addon. 3. Close browser. 4. Go to your profile folder and open the file extensions.json in a good editor like Notepad++ which supports highlighting of brackets. 5. Search for the extension ID and delete its complete string from {"id": to "location":"app-profile"} curly brackets inclusive. Each extension begins and ends with these curly brackets. Between two different extensions may be only one comma. 6. Now delete in subfolder extensions related xpi file and its staged folder if existent. 7. Now start your browser, open Add-ons and you'll see the problematic addon has gone completely. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

In my computer is only a SSE2 cpu working. uBlock Origins fails to install as reported above. I quoted @feodor2's comment to issue #9. In case of uBlock presumeably only people using older computers like me are affected. Generally I think it's an early state of development and addon support is still immature at the moment.

It has already been reported that uBlock Origin doesn't work in Mypal 68 at the moment. I tried several versions and couldn't install any of them too. But I found an interesting alternative adblocker working in Mypal 68. It's AdBlocker Ultimate and works without any problems. I'm fine with that. Here is a link: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/adblocker-ultimate/ . You can use the latest version 3.7.16. And @feodor2, my compliment for your great work! I am really impressed by the performance on heavy loading web sites in this early state of development. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

Hi @roytam1, good news for you! Using a clean profile, no problems in accesing web site https://sourceforge.net/projects/otter-browser/files/ Furthermore I tried again updating my installation to the latest version. Using my old profile and deleting all sourceforge related cookies, no more crashes. The problematic web site can be accessed without any problems. Therefore thanks for your quick reply and next time I'll try usimg a clean profile first. But such errors are a bit strange in any cases. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Very strange! Never had such problems. My environment is a real installation (no VM) of Windows XP Professional + all POSReady updates. It's a very old computer with a Pentium 4 CPU 32Bit in perfect condition and without any errors or problems. As mentioned before your previous versions never had any problems accessing this web site. For me it was the first time your browser crashed. And I could reproduce this crash. Anyway, I will try using a clean profile for testing purpose.