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If there are any incompatibilities, I think it'll be mostly with the chipset/video drivers. I can't say for sure since I'm not very experienced in the newer stuff but usually if you're going to have problems, that's one of the big ones that you'll have problems with, that and wireless LAN which can be quite picky sometimes too. Going from Windows XP to 2000 was generally a piece of cake since it runs off the same kernel and core so to speak, but since XP was the last NT5 and the switch to WDDM in Vista on up, that's where a lot of issues fall into. I've seen XP video drivers for video work on 7 (with limitations), but I don't think going backwards is easy if possible at all unless it uses the WDM driver type, which then you might have a chance. Incidentally, I can't believe that computers are still being equipped with 5400RPM hard drives, with today's large OSs, I'd never use anything less than 7200RPM.
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Modern Motherboards Working with Windows 98 *The List*
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Jet.com, wasn't that the site that had the commercials were people's heads would explode into purple smoke or something and made no sense at all? -
It looks as though before I can get my money...I have to pay to take an online cooking class based in Africa first. Golly, I thought it would be easier than this. I wonder if Mr. Frank Daniel will teach me how to make a cake.
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This might help you out http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/
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That's why I always pay cash, for anything.
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Try Everest Home Edition, that will probably help you out. Since it's not made anymore and superseded by something else, you might have to do a little Google searching. But generally it's pretty good at telling you what you have even if you don't have drivers installed.
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This is quite an old thread so back then it wouldn't have been quite as easy but thank you for posting that video, it will help show those who want to run WMP11 on Windows 2000. I've been doing that method for quite a long time myself but it definitely works. I like how you used Kirby's Gourmet Race music in the first part of your video.
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I used Tomasz's UUrollup v11 weekly 3-23-13. I believe it's the extended core that's the problem only because I've tried several different drivers without success and dualview worked fine before I installed it. But I wanted to update since I was quite outdated and everything else seems to work but dualview. Edit: I uninstalled the Core and rebooted, Dualview was detected. I'm pressed for time but it looks like once I reboot, it'll work like it did before. Edit 2: I rebooted and dual view is back after removing the new Extended Core package.
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If you installed the sound driver *after* UUR, reinstall UURollup. I dunno why but there's a thing it does that if you install a sound driver afterwards, it'll disable all audio until you install UURollup again.
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@blackwingcat I'm having an issue here with using Core v16a and KernelEx v2.8d ENU. Since I installed these, I cannot use dual monitors anymore. It shows up in the control panel but anytime I go to restart the machine, it doesn't install anything. It shows my second monitor, but dualview will not enable. In fact I reinstalled the driver and so it now it says (install dualview) in the Nvidia panel but when I go through the motions, nothing changes. I'm using NVIDIA 270.61.
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Mainly one model exists and is made by Funai for brands like Toshiba and Sanyo. If you look at them, they're pretty much visually identical except for different name brands. I bought a Toshiba badged version about 5 years ago and it still gets regular use but I bought it not just for the VCR in it which works quite well actually, but because it was a DVD Recorder. I don't know about anyone else, but I have a tough time finding DVD Recorders that are standalone units anymore. Of course I'm the kind that likes to buy stuff from a store rather than online but going to the stores around my area and either I find just regular DVD players which in my opinion are quite despicable from when they were first released as far as quality and build is concerned, or you find the combo machines. Going back to the beginning of my post, sometimes you will find machines that aren't DVD Recorder/VCR combos but just regular DVD player/VCR combos but if you're looking for the recorder unit, that's where most of them are completely identical. I actually still own three combo units and 1 stand alone VCR but I don't really use the VCR very much like I used to but then I rarely record anything since there's nothing worthwhile on TV to record anymore.
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Actually, this is where Windows 2000 can outshine the 9x OSes (sadly). With KernelEx on Windows 2000, I'm using the Atom version of Palemoon so I'm able to install the latest version (26.3.3) as of writing this comment so it's completely up to date and has no problems running on the modern web where 9x is quite limited unfortunately. I only suggested Windows 7 since you said you wanted to try a newer OS. I personally wouldn't run it myself because I just don't like the top heavy feeling of running NT 6.x, it just feels clunky to me despite a few diehards saying it's actually rock solid underneath. Even on really modern computers, I feel it stumble a few times while it thinks or tries catching up to who knows what. So what I recommend is, if you want the genuine look at feel of 9x/Me but quite a bit of functionality that comes with XP, go with 2000. Or if you want to be more up to date go with XP with the POSReady 2009 hack to install updates. Windows 2000 suits 98% of my needs so I have absolutely no plans on moving off of it anytime soon. But that's of course my two cents.
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Boogie Woogie!
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Actually, it's really not bad on that machine since Vista ran just fine on my Dell OptiPlex GX270, but it did hiccup a bit at times. I'm only suggesting it since the OP talked about installing a newer OS on it. I wouldn't go above 7 if you're looking for something newer than XP, that's just my two cents though.
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Windows 7 should run just fine on the machine, but I'd definitely bump the RAM up to at least 2GBs if not more. If it were me, I'd install Windows 2000 on it.
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Such a sad day, I actually still used VHS to be honest. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2016/07/22/rip-to-the-vcr/
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Moved to Windows 9x/Me main forum due to MS-DOS being the subject of thread
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Is your hardware acceleration up to full? Display > Settings > Advanced > Troubleshooting. Make sure the slider bar is at full.
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Can you post the display tab from dxdiag? That should tell us a lot right there.
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***This thread is still a work in progress, plans to organize motherboards by socket type is planned*** Welcome to the updated modern motherboards that are working with Windows 98 information thread. Most of these boards are now considered legacy due to their age, but are still very modern to Windows 98 standards and most will use either Core2 or Athlon 64 processors. Most of these boards however, despite having onboard video and audio, may require the use of compatible addon cards due to Windows 98 not being able to address HD audio at all and most Intel video no longer works with Windows 98. IMPORTANT: A common problem on most boards of this age is Windows 98 having a problem using ACPI so in order to install Windows 98 without having these issues is to use switches while initiating setup from DOS. When installing, be sure to use "x:\setup /p i" without the quotation marks and x:\ being your installation source drive. This will help issue with hanging during setup or crashes within Windows caused by ACPI. Also note that in order to use these boards to their full potential, it might be necessary to patch your system to use more than 1GB of RAM. We do recommend Rloew's RAM limitation patch which will then enable Windows 9x/ME to utilize up to 4GBs of memory. Some boards may also require something like Rloew's SATA patch despite being IDE/ATA compatible or even using a legacy IDE drive just because of how the board is set up. To contact @rloew for information on his patches, PM him or visit his site at: http://rloew1.no-ip.com. Those patches, however, are not free. So without further ado, here's the list of boards known to be working (or mostly working with some addon hardware and tweaks) with Windows 98. ABIT IP-95 ABIT SG 80DC AsRock 4Core1600-Glan Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2 R2.0 ASRock 775i65G R2.0ASRock 890FX-Deluxe5 ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0 Asrock AliveDual-eSATA2 Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA Asrock 4CoreDX90-VSTA R2.0 ASUS A8V Deluxe ASUS A8n-E (with nForce 4 ultra chipset) ASUS K8V-MX/S ASUS M5A97 (Confirmed by rloew) ASUS P4S800-MX ASUS P5K ASUS P5PE-VM ASUS P5SD2-VM BCMCOM BC875PLG BIOSTAR P4M890M7SE ECS 662/1066T-M2 ECS GeForce 6100SM-M ECS K8M800-M2 ECS P4M800Pro-M2 Foxconn H55MXV (Rloew's SATA patch most likely required for correct operation, even in IDE/PATA mode) Gigabyte 8IPE1000-G Gigabyte G31TM-P21 Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3 Rev 3.1 (AM3+) Gigabyte GA-8I865GME-775-RH (rev. 2.0) Gigabyte GA-8I865PE775-G-RH Gigabyte GA-945GCM-S2L Gigabyte GA-965GM-S2 Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R Rev 2.1 Gigabyte GA-K8A480M-9 Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2HP Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3G Gigabyte GA-P43-ES3G (Rloew's SATA patch most likely required for correct operation, even in IDE/PATA mode) Gigabyte K8NSC-939 Intel LAD865GVIPL JetWay J7F4K1G5S-LF MSI 865PE Neo3-F MSI 865PE Neo3-V MSI 970A SLI Krait (AM3+) -Thanks ragnargd! MSI K8N neo MSI K9VGM-V MSI P31 Neo V2 MSI Z87-G41 PC-Chips P23G (v1.0) Portwell RUBY-9719VG2AR Soltek SL-XP865G-3IG Soyo SY-P4I845PE Lite Soyo SY-P4I845PE-ISA Supermicro X5DAE Supermicro X7DAL-E We will still leave the original topic open, if you have further discussion please see this link here. If you want us to update this thread either post in that thread or PM me, LoneCrusader or dencorso and we'll update this thread, or if you find a board on this list that is NOT working with Windows 98, let us know immediately so we can remove it from this list. Topic LOCKED
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Could you please provide us with a screenshot of any DX error messages? How many times have you rebooted since you got it working? I've noticed sometimes even after installing the driver, I need to reboot 2-3 times before everything is working perfectly. Also, post your dxdiag info as well to see what you're running on. Just do start > run > dxdiag. Since you have UURollup installed, it will be there and it will run just fine. So let us know please! Also, if all else fails, try this driver: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/arouu2dzqfhwgtj/AACEWhnbCsG2sn4ZbnE_p64Ha/Windows2000/USP5/Drivers/nVIDIA Display 270.61 for Windows 2000.7z?dl=0 This is from Tomasz86's driver archive. It looks like the GTX 560 is in there. Give it a shot if you haven't. It should at least get you up and going with that card. I'm using this driver now and it's great, works well!
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I personally recommend having your system as up-to-date with all the unofficial updates that are available either from blackwingcat or tomasz86's unofficial rollups which aren't updated as frequently but they're basically a bit all in one package that updates a good many files on your system. I don't have a graphics card anywhere near as new as you so I can't even really help you that much on that. @blackwingcat should be able to help out though.
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Hey, could you try and keep the double posting down a bit please? If nobody has replied to your post and only a short time has passed, edit your previous post to include the updated material. Thanks! Now then, I would absolutely say to install blackwingcat's unofficial updates if you haven't already. It seems to me that some of his drivers did require at least extended kernel and core updates to them. Extended Core (or whatever he's calling it) is separate from KernelEx so I would make sure that it's installed as well, and you'll find that I believe on the same page, but below all the KernelEx download links and information.