the only trouble i have with that is IE7, They really need to integrate firefox ! Wouldnt that be great! never have the hassle of **** internet explorer! I believe your hypothesis is going to be right. And if it is right that would be sweeet! With all sp2 hotfixes that would save me alot of trouble and work I would be very happy with that. - The new messenger, i never use windows messenger anyways. I dont ever like it. And it just causes so many problem and gets in the way. Even with it i will still use AIM and MSN. And most likely the sp3 will have all updated secruity. everything will be running smooth error free!