yup, you'll need a clean xp disc (not a manufacturer one) nlite runs like a dream then, you get zero error messages or missing files as for the hotfixes, you can download ryanvm (google him) 's hotfix pack, it's a .7z file, you just select that as a hotfix in nlite and it'll be up to date then -bare in mind, xp sp3 is out very shortly, so i'd just use that there's no file copying needed by nlite, only the whole xpcd to a suitable folder, such as C:\XPCD as said above, we all start out somewhere , it's like driving a car, if you do it the wrong way you're heading for trouble