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Which of course can be added at any time, even while installed. Any particular ones you would recommend? I can always relocate the existing fan elsewhere or to another box. Cheers and Regards

myselfidem is correct, as trala has also verified - http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/133491-windows-7-keep-list/page__view__findpost__p__995141 Cheers and Regards

@NATO, I'm not sure what your post has to do with the OP. And you got the message that the SP3 Service Pack had corrupt CAB files and you installed it anyway? ? ? ? ? And you are surprised that you have a few problems? ? ? ? Cheers and Regards

I have been very pleased with the CoolerMaster Hyper 212. Inexpensive, cool and quiet. What more do you need? Cheers and Regards

LOL As much as I like Win7, that doesn't mean I like it as it comes off the shelf. I use Classic Shell for it's Start Menu and Explorer enhancements, and Everything for search. I don't use IE unless I have to, I use Iron (a Chrome variant) instead. Yes I know that all of those could be used on Win8 as well, and I would absolutely have to in order to even begin to tolerate Win8, but they still wouldn't overcome the other shortcomings and annoyances to make it worth my time to bother to try. Cheers and Regards

So, false alarm then? "Problem" solved? Cheers and Regards

You probably should check and make sure that your ISP link is fast enough to warrant a Gigabit router, many are not. If not, the ISP link will be the limiting factor and the extra bandwidth of the Gigabit vs 100Mb router will be wasted. Along with the money. Cheers and Regards

I would be glad to offer my opinion, but I can't address this specific question because I'm perfectly happy with Win7. After all that I've read, and after horror stories from friends that have tried it, I have no interest in even bothering to try Win8 in its present form. Why should I? It offers nothing I need that I don't already have access to. It's free to try? Great. Free annoyances. No thanks. IF they make some changes before it gets to RTM stage then I MIGHT try to run it on a VM myself, but from what I've seen so far I seriously doubt it. I'll let everybody else be the guinea pigs. Maybe when they release SP1. Or I'll skip it entirely. I've worked with computers in one way or another since 1973. Since I worked with them every day, I felt no need to have one of my own for the longest time. I finally got one in 1998. I used Win98 for a couple of years, moved to Win2K which I stayed with until about four years ago or so, then went to XP for a couple of years. I moved to Win7 about 2 years ago and I must say that I have found the overall experience with Win7 better than the rest in all ways from initial installation, program and hardware compatibility, speed, look, etc. I finally moved to x64 just this year, not out of any particular need but felt the technology had finally matured enough I was willing to give it a try. LOL No problems so far. I know that a lot of it is what you get used to and/or personal preference, but I'm very happy. There is no hardware or software reason requiring me to move to Win8. There's nothing I can't do in Win7 that I need to do, and if there was I know lots of folks that can help me, including the ones here at MSFN along with other sites I frequent. I try to keep up with what's going on with past, current, and future versions of MS OS, but I do not see any reason to subject myself to the abuse that Win8 appears to be for extraordinarily little reward, none of which is really needed. As to the general question if an OS works as well on VM as one installed on actual hardware, the current generation of VMs available today do a pretty good job on today's hardware from what I have seen. The differences in operation haven't been enough to cause an experience difference bad enough to change one's opinion of the OS that is installed. It might be a little slower, but that's to be expected when doing anything virtually, and today's hardware has made the speed penalty very slight. If the experience of Win8 in a VM is noticeably worse than that on actual hardware I would tend to chalk that up to yet one more thing that Win8 has managed to "break". I think we all agree there are a few, a VERY few things that might be an improvement in Win8 compared to Win7. But they are not anything that we can't live without or can't get from third party software, and they do not make up for the features that have been removed or changed in such a way to make what we want to do more difficult if not impossible. Not to mention things that have been added that we don't want or need, such as Metro. So it is not something we feel is worth the money for us to purchase or to recommend that others purchase for home or business use, at least not for either desktop or laptop use. It might very well be good for tablets, good enough to be worth the money is another question, but I don't know a single person who owns a tablet. I know plenty that own a smart phone, not that I want one necessarily, I don't even have a cell phone at all, (MAYBE next year), but no tablets. You might want to take the advice similar to what you suggested to Andre and start your own thread for folks that like Win8. I'm sure MS hopes that there are many like you, and I might be surprised, but I have a feeling you will be very lonely there. Cheers and Regards OT - If it's easier, you are more than welcome to just call me BP. It's easier to "say" and remember.

What happened to your promise? tsk, tsk Cheers and Regards

vLite CAN be used successfully on Win7 SP1 - http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/133491-windows-7-keep-list/page__st__140__p__995141#entry995141 I know several people who have done it. I personally have not, but that's because I do not slim my OS install. Cheers and Regards

What did you find that worked for you? Please share your success. Cheers and Regards

I admire your spirit, and do not in any way want to dampen your enthusiasm or discourage your search. Many wonderful discoveries have been made in all fields when people did not accept "It can't be done". But I stand by my statement. Your method does seem to pick up some files that have specific types of errors. But note that I said "changed, edited, modified, enhanced" as well. if you substitute an old version of a file for a newer one, or take any type of archived file and rename it as another, say take NOTEPAD.EX_ and rename it as TRACERT6.EX_, your method will not find that to be a problem at all. Also, not all files on an iso are stored as compressed files, and as you found out, 7-Zip will not be able to help with anything that is not an archive. Not to mention that in essentially all cases 7-Zip can only identify and not repair those errors it finds. And what about missing files? As a result, your assumption that -- 'If no msg "File is broken" is displayed in the 7-Zip message window, the .iso contains no broken archives and the .iso is most likely Ok' -- will not always be correct. But I admit that if you are only looking to identify if there is a particular type of error in certain files that your method could be of help. Continue your search! We might all learn something from your efforts. Cheers and Regards

@Multibooter, This is the ONLY way to guarantee that ANY type of file has not been damaged, corrupted, changed, edited, modified, enhanced, or any other type of change you can possibly think of to ask about. PERIOD And that would of had to of been done before you ever copied the iso or files off the CD/DVD to begin with. But you are welcome to keep looking for an alternate solution. Cheers and Regards

What problem? I'm very confused I don't understand what you were trying to do. Did you think that running scandisk from an up to date nLited XP SP3 disc would somehow update your OS that only had SP1 installed? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. As Kel says, it just won't work. If that's not what you were trying to do, then what WERE you trying to do? If you were wanting to update your OS with SP3, then just install SP3. Then as submix8c implies, you should then install the rest of the current updates. The purpose of an up to date nLited disc is to do a CLEAN install, NOT to update an existing OS. Cheers and Regards

No. I think he meant that when you start a Metro app that it insists on opening up full screen. That behavior is appropriate for a smartphone app, but not a desktop app with a 30" screen or perhaps a multi-screen setup. We're used to apps opening up into windows and being able to open several windows at once so you can see multiple apps at once in the windows and share data between the windows easily as you would expect to be able to do in an OS called ... wait for it ... Windows. Cheers and Regards

Yes, you are absolutely correct that "to each his own" is the approach we all should take. After all, you didn't ask us if we thought you should use Win8, you had already decided that on your own. You did however seem surprised that we don't like it. At this point though, I think that both sides have very clearly stated their opinions so we should let it rest. If you won't try to convince us we should use it, then we won't try and convince you to use something else. (At least I won't.) I'm sure that opinions about Win8 will continue to be posted, because it has definitely irritated a lot of people, but the opinions are not meant as any kind of affront toward you. People are just expressing their dissatisfaction with the decisions that MS seems to be making, and describing how those decisions would effect how they currently use their PC in their daily lives. The hope is that if enough people complain loudly enough in enough places and with the purchases they make, or the lack of them, that MS might listen. If it doesn't effect Win8, then perhaps Win9. Cheers and Regards

Thanks, that worked. But the question as to the current version number remains. Cheers and Regards

The mediafire link is password protected. Also, what is the new version number for GDISM? Cheers and Regards

I hope you're just joking, because otherwise that is uncalled for. You could always post your question directly on the MS forums if you want to ask them directly. Cheers and Regards

Thank you, NATO, for summarizing what we had suggested to Tony177, along with specific tools and tasks you have found useful yourself in similar circumstances. I would be very interested to find out whether he was ever able to find out what was causing his problem. Cheers and Regards

Well, once you get everything sorted and get your disk made and working the way you described you wanted in the first post, it would be nice if you wrote up a "How To". This could serve two purposes, as a reminder for you if you need to do it again, and also to help others who might want to do something similar. I am also somewhat curious why you're using a DVD instead of USB where you might could use either this - http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/120444-how-to-install-windows-from-usb-winsetupfromusb-with-gui/, this - http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/149612-winntsetup-v22/, this - http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/139654-install-windows-from-iso-after-booting-to-winpe-30-from-usb-hdd/, or any of the other options mentioned here - http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/157-install-windows-from-usb/? Cheers and Regards

@monohouse, you misunderstood. He said "the almost 250mb I save making my own Win7 SP1", ie he was able to make his install disk almost 250mb smaller by manually adding SP1 as he described above, compared to the Win7 SP1 official disk. He did not actually say what the final size of his wim was, just that the 250 mb savings combined with his vLite removals meant he ended up saving "about 1.1gb on the total ISO size". As he stated, trala is not "on the extreme removal side of things". He listed exactly what he typically removes and why. Cheers and Regards

I guess that's kind of the same concept as removing all the USB devices and installing them back one at a time once all the updated files are in place. Seems to make sense if you think about it that way. Cheers and Regards

So run an x86 VM and do all your work in there. That should avoid the compatibility issues. Right? Cheers and Regards

How is "a change of computer" forcing you to switch from XP x32 to Win7 or XP x64? If you have a legally purchased retail version of XP x86, I believe that you should be able to install that on your new computer. The amount of memory installed might be the issue, since x86 will not see more than 4GB, but if you're willing to waste the memory, or take out anything over 4GB, won't XP x86 still install? If nothing else 1GB or 2GB sticks of memory are quite cheap these days, so it might be worth it to you to purchase a stick or two. Now if you are being "forced" to use certain software that will no longer run on XP, that could be what you meant. But since you're trying to install XP x64 then that must not be it either. I suppose that there might even be software that will not run on x86 and require x64, but I would think that would be somewhat rare. Bottom line, just because your new computer is an x64 machine, doesn't mean that you can't install XP x86 on it, unless I'm missing something. Essentially, I'm confused. Cheers and Regards