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Wise words, bphlpt! I fully agree with your advice.

The OP claimed to have used such a large drive in the past with that board. I've had plenty of Slot-1 boards with BX chipsets and AGP slots, and I've never encountered an 8 gb hard drive limit with those - but then again I've never used anything other than Large-mode bios drive setting. That's not the point: the EPOX EP-BX3 uses a PIIX4E southbrige, which knows nothing about SATA or anything else beyond UltraDMA-33. So, the OP must be talking about PATA, not SATA. But the OP is. And so am I.

KB2931352 is MS14-026. You sure are aware of MS14-053, MS14-057 and MS14-072, too, aren't you?

I don't use VMs at all. I run 98SE on two different Asus A7V600-X. On one of them I have a 750 GB WD SATA-II HDD (WD7501AALS), set to SATA-I compatibility through a jumper, and run it with the VIA SATA RAID drivers I posted about many times (Via's SerialATA_V220E), without any patching, and access the full HDD as a single partition. WD SATA-III HDDs can be jumpered to operate in SATA-II mode but not in SATA-I mode, and are not recognized by VIA 8237 southbridge internal SATA controller. I said partitions of more than 1 TiB can trash your data in certain circunstances, without a patch to VFAT.VxD. Notice I said 1 TiB, not 1 TB... Of course your unpatched system has VFAT.VxD, but it's packed inside VMM32.VxD.

Please explain how I am able to attach 1 and 2 TB SATA drives to my win-98 systems and have the entire drives functional under win-98 - without the rloew patch? One cannot. One can use up to 500 GB PATA HDDs (I believe no larger IDE drives were ever released) by using LLXX's patch. Old SATA controllers having drivers (usually for SATA 150, in RAID or IDE mode) can be used without any patch. Then again, that only works for SATA-150 or SATA-300 HDDs, since most SATA-600 HDDs cannot operate in SATA-150 mode. In any case, for FAT sizes exceeding 1 TiB, another patch (this one to vfat.vxd - available from Rloew) is required. And for controllers not having 9x SATA drivers, but capable of operating in IDE mode, Rloew's SATA patch is required, but the 137 GB patch is also required. If only AHCI mode is available, then it's no go.

@Nomen: A 40 GB SATA HDD? On an EPOX EP-BX3 ??? @all: The 137 GB limit can be overcome using either LLXX's or RLoew's patches. But for the next limit (1 GiB) there's only RLoew's patch.

So far, there's been no notice of any PC morphing into a purple mushroom and exploding shortly thereafter, AFAIK...

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you," as the good Mr. Heller once put it very aptly... I do think an appropriate level of paranoia is a requirement to avoid annoyances galore. So, you're not perfect too... ...but, then again, who is?

That's true. But for now I prefer keeping a single list, because other updates are for both OSes, too. I did, however, put a sticky link on the 7 forum to bring intrested users directly to this thread. Added! Thanks! I respectfully disagree. +1

This is a pointer to a relevant thread <link> which is on the Windows 8 forum.

============================================================================== New on Mar 20, 2019: For Windows 7 users: Beware of the new KB4493132! Do hide it, it's just the 7EoS Nag! More about it on this article. In any case, eyes wide open: MS says "If automatic updates are enabled, this update will be downloaded and installed automatically." !!! ============================================================================== Warning: until the situation becomes clearer, I think it better to block MS16-023 on 7 SP1 and 8.1. Please read this, and remember It's easier (and surer) to block now, and decide to add it in the future, than trying to remove it later, instead. My 2¢. KB2952664 "Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 7" This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows. KB2976978 "Compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8" Describes an update that improves the compatibility and upgrade experience in Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 This update performs diagnostics on the Windows systems that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program in order to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. This update will help Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who are seeking to install the latest Windows operating system. KB2977759 "Compatibility update to Windows 7 RTM" This update performs diagnostics on the Windows systems that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program. These diagnostics help determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. This update will help Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system. KB2990214 "Update that enables you to upgrade from Windows 7 SP1 to a later version of Windows" It is an update to the Windows Update Client. It is a pre-requisite (for now) in order to be able to "update" to Windows 10 when it becomes available. This is the actual correct download link. KB2999226 (also in CR) "Update for Universal C Runtime in Windows" It is an update that enables one to run windows 10 applications on earlier versions of windows. KB3021917 "Update to Windows 7 SP1 for performance improvements" This update performs diagnostics in Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) in order to determine whether performance issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. Telemetry is sent back to Microsoft for those computers that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP). This update will help Microsoft and its partners deliver better system performance for customers who are seeking to install the latest Windows operating system. KB3022345 (probably not offered anymore because it was superseded by KB3068708, of which more below) "Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry" in Windows 8.x and Windows 7 SP1 This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to in-market devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet been upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. This update has been replaced by the latest update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry that was first released on June 2, 2015. To obtain the update, see KB3068708 Update (of which more below) for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry. KB3035583 "Update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1" This update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available to the user. It applies to a computer that is running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1). Before you install this update, check out the Prerequisites section. It installs GWX.exe which has the description “Get Windows 10″ More info (myce on Apr 05, 2015): Update for Win 7 and 8.1 silently installs Win 10 downloader To remove this update easily, there's now also rn10950's "I Don't Want Windows 10" KB3044374 "Update that supports you to upgrade from Windows 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2 to a later version of Windows". This article describes an update that supports you to upgrade from Windows 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2 to a later version of Windows. This update has prerequisites. KB3046480 Update helps to determine whether to migrate..." for in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 This update enables the system to determine whether to migrate the Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 to a later version of Windows when you upgrade from Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 to a later version of Windows. This determination is based on the usage of the .NET Framework 1.1. KB3050265 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: June 2015 This update addresses an issue in which system performance can be decreased during scans. This issue has the greatest effect on computers that have a small amount of physical memory. This update addresses an issue in which Windows Update scans can fail and generate a 0x8007000E error.General improvements are made to support upgrades to a later version of Windows. KB3050267 Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: June 2015 A change is made on the log level for %windir%\WindowsUpdate.log to reduce the frequency of certain events from exhausting log space. Fixes an issue for managed computers in which managed computers have to update drivers as a set. Driver sets are not processed by Windows Update during shutdown, and are still available to be installed after you restart the computer.Fixes an issue in which the files of an update may not be found by Windows Update (0x80070002) if the download operation spans multiple sessions.General improvements are made to support upgrades to a later version of Windows. KB3064683 (disclosed by MS in KB3184143) Windows 8.1 OOBE modifications to reserve Windows 10 KB3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015 KB3065988 Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: July 2015 KB3068708 (also in CR) Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1 This update, aka DiagTrack or Diagnostics Tracking Service, introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to in-market devices... <snip> This kind of update helps the overall application experience on Windows, by improving the current operating system for upgrade to the latest version of Windows. <snip> By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. KB3072318 (disclosed by MS in KB3184143) Update for Windows 8.1 OOBE to upgrade to Windows 10 KB3075249 (also in CR) "This article describes an update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Win 8.1, Win RT 8.1, Win Server 2012 R2, Win 7 SP1, and Win Server 2008 R2 SP1. This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels." KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: August 2015 This update also resolves an issue in which certain Windows Update operations fail when you install Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015 (KB3065987) on Windows 7 Embedded editions." In other words: it also fixes the mess created by KB3065987. KB3075853 Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: August 2015 KB3080149 (also in CR) "This article describes an update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry, for Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 SP1, and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1." KB3081954 (also in CR) Ensures users be able to continue using Work Folders after upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7SP1, and adds further telemetry! KB3083324 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: September 2015 KB3083325 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: September 2015 KB3083710 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: October 2015 KB3083711 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: October 2015 KB3090045 - Windows Update for reserved devices in Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 SP1 KB3102810 - Installing and searching for updates is slow and high CPU usage occurs in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 KB3102812 - Installing and searching for updates is slow and high CPU usage occurs in Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2 KB3112343 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: December 2015 This update enables support for additional upgrade scenarios from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and provides a smoother experience when you have to retry an operating system upgrade because of certain failure conditions. This update also improves the ability of Microsoft to monitor the quality of the upgrade experience. KB3112336 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: December 2015 This update enables support for additional upgrade scenarios from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and provides a smoother experience when you have to retry an operating system upgrade because of certain failure conditions. This update also improves the ability of Microsoft to monitor the quality of the upgrade experience. KB3123862- Updated capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 This update adds capabilities to some computers that lets users easily learn about Windows 10 or start an upgrade to Windows 10. KB3135445 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: February 2016 KB3135449 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: February 2016 KB3118401 (also in CR) Update for Universal C Runtime in Windows It is an update that enables one to run windows 10 applications on earlier versions of windows. KB3138612 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: March 2016 KB3138615 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: March 2016 KB3139929 - MS16-023: Security update for IE: March 8, 2016 (because it brings, bundled, KB3146449 - Updated IE11 capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1)... which seems to be yet another nagging software to push Windows 10. [KB3146449 (not standalone: bundled into KB3139929 and allegedly removed by KB3184143) Updated Internet Explorer 11 capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7] KB3150513 This update provides updated configuration and definitions for compatibility diagnostics performed on the system. The updated definitions will improve accuracy and help enable Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system. This update will be offered only if KB2977759, KB2952664, or KB2976978 is installed on Windows 8.1, Windows 8, Windows 7 SP1, or Windows 7 RTM. KB3163589 - Windows 8 and Windows 7 PC running an outdated version of Windows notification (aka NAG). KB3170735 - Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1 This update adds the capability to notify you about future Windows Journal developments. (Woody's remarks). This seems to be Just Another Nagger, AFAICS... KB3173040 - Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1 end of free upgrade offer notification (aka NAG). KB3192403 - October 2016 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 KB3192404 - October 2016 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2 KB3192406 - October 2016 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows Server 2012 These titles are a mounthfull, of course, and are nothing more than shameless euphemisms for "More Tracking Trash" !!! -------------***************------------- More info (InfoWorld on Apr 16, 2015): MS elaborates on KB 2990214, KB 3044374 Win 10 nagware! -------------***************------------- Summary: Now, there are some of these updates that come in pairs (pairing revised after reading post #111): KB2952664 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB2976978 for Windows 8.x. KB2990214 for Windows 7 SPx and KB3044374 for Windows 8.1. KB3050265 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3050267 for Windows 8.1. KB3065987 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3065988 for Windows 8.1. KB3075851 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3075853 for Windows 8.1 KB3083324 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3083325 for Windows 8.1. KB3083710 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3083711 for Windows 8.1. KB3102810 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3102812 for Windows 8.1. KB3112343 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3112336 for Windows 8.1. KB3135445 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3135449 for Windows 8.1. KB3138612 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3138615 for Windows 8.1. KB3192403 for Windows 7 SP1 and KB3192404 for Windows 8.1. While the others are intended for both Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.x, namely: KB2999226, KB3035583, KB3046480 and KB3068708 (which replaces KB3022345), KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3090045, KB3118401, KB3123862, KB3139929, KB3146449, KB3150513, KB3163589, KB3170735 and KB3173040. And there is, in addition, KB2977759, KB3021917 and KB3081954, just for Windows 7 SPx. and also KB3064683 and KB3072318, just for Windows 8.1, of course! -------------***************------------- This list intends to cover both Windows 7 and 8. Some of the updates listed are offered to either 7 or 8, while others are offered to both. This list is a work in progress, which tends to grow with time. My main intent here is just to keep all relevant info as together as possible, for easy reference. Of course, the idea for this sticky post came from NoelC's post I quoted at the top of this very post. -------------***************------------- At this point (Oct. 31, 2015), the task of keeping track of all of this has become complex, so I do recommend the aegis.cmd script by thepower from voat.co (findable here) as a handy tool, that helps both with the avoidance of the "upgrade" do Win 10 and with privacy issues, too. Thanks are due to epic, for first suggesting its use on post #273. After runnining aegis.cmd, the Windows Update is set to check/notify, but I always reset it to off, and check manually, from time to time. One must keep eyes wide open, because some of the updates keep being re-offered, too, and need to be re-hidden! -------------***************------------- Alphabetized list specific to the OS for more convenient checking (courtesy of bphlpt ): Windows 7 SP1 Windows 8.x KB2952664 KB2976978 x KB2977759 KB2999226 x KB2990214 KB3022345 x KB2999226 KB3035583 x KB3021917 KB3044374 xx KB3022345 KB3046480 x KB3035583 KB3050267 xx KB3046480 KB3064683 KB3050265 KB3065988 xx KB3065987 KB3068708 x KB3068708 KB 3072318 KB3075249 KB3075249 x KB3075851 KB3075853 xx KB3080149 KB3080149 x KB3081954 KB3083325 xx KB3083324 KB3083711 xx KB3083710 KB3090045 KB3090045 KB3102812 xx KB3102810 KB3112336 xx KB3112343 KB3118401 x KB3118401 KB3123862 x KB3123862 KB3135449 xx KB3135445 KB3138615 xx KB3138612 KB3139929 xx KB3139929 KB3146449 KB3146449 KB3150513 KB3150513 KB3163589 KB3163589 KB3170735 KB3170735 KB3173040 KB3173040 KB3192404 KB3192403 x == Windows 8.x xx == Windows 8.1

Have you tried to activate hibernation from the command-line, in a DOS box? If not, please do it, just in case... the command ought to be: C:\> powercfg /hibernate on You can start with: C:\> powercfg /query then try to activate hibernation, then query again just to see if it worked...

There should be at least one further tab, named "Hibernate"... Maybe a look at Kelly's Korner, in case you haven't already done so, can be of help...

While the Moonchild Productions does not support XP anymore for the main Pale Moon version, they do direct those interested to the 3rd party versions from Binary Outcast and Roman Štefko, as well as keep their official Atom/XP version up-to-date. It's not at all the same as just dropping support. In fact, this very post was actually written and posted using Štefko's Pale Moon for SSE 25.2.1 on an Athlon XP running Win XP SP3.

Stop reposting the same message to multiple threads. You'll get help, but be patient. I'm sure Tihiy'll reply to you. And, just in case, do also

Any replies to this thread should instead go into the thread pointed by NoelC on the post above this one, so that we keep all info as together as possible.

+1 Happy Easter to you all!

Way to go!

For what it's worth, the meaning of the inf names is the following: wellHECI.inf => Wellsburg (X99) patsHECI.inf => Patsburg (X79) pantHECI.inf => Panther Point (Z77, etc.) lynxHECI.inf => Lynx Point (Z87, eyc.) lxlpHECI.inf => Wildcat Point (Z97, eyc.) cougHECI.inf => Cougar Point (Z68, etc.) For more info, check the list of Intel Chipsets on Wikipedia. Great find, bluebolt!

They don't. Intel USB 3.0 does not support XP. All Haswell supporting chipsets include Intel USB 3.0 and none work at all on XP, unless in USB 2.0 compatibility mode. Previous Intel chipsets did not include Intel USB 3.0. Motherboards based on those chipsets had 3rd party (usually Renesas or ASMedia) USB 3.0 controllers that do have XP full-fledged drivers, which do support USB 3.0 on XP, and work great.

None at all. I'm keeping it in place, too. And keep a copy of v. 257 handy, just in case it becomes needed again, of course.

Thanks for the swift reply, -X-! You rock!

In Windows XP and Java, Oracle says Java 8 should work, although it's unsupported... Then -X- posted what's quoted below: Java 8 is at update 40, right now... would someone kindly update this thread, so that we can keep abreast of the current situation, as it develops?

Welcome to MSFN, Larry! As you know you know absolutely nothing about computers, and you know ignorance is bliss, I'm sure you're in a kind of Nirvana, at least in what regards computers! Moreover, bphlpt and myself are among the many here whose digital life is brighter, thanks to your contributions, which are a long way from being nil, no matter how one looks at them, and then, they're meant to be looked at. It's good to have you around!

No.