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Dearest @XPerceniol ; my own stance is for people to stop meddling with "about:config" advanced settings, especially when not sure what they're about; there's a good reason why "general.warnOnAboutConfig" is by default set at "true" ; but this is just me getting grumpier as I grow older... The referenced pref is an old remnant from an era when yt were still using both Flash and HTML5 embedded players; more at this link ; for many years now, yt are exclusively using their HTML5 player, so the setting of that pref is currently moot: you'll always be served the HTML5 version of the embedded yt video... I briefly toggled the pref to false, just to humour you, no yt breakage encountered here... As for performance slowdowns, am afraid this is something you'll have to check on your own particular setup (H/W+S/W) ... Best greetings EDIT: @UCyborg beat me to it by mere seconds!

Judging by the prefix, it's probably an outdated variable that was probably relevant when YouTube was still using Flash Player...yup, that was it...https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Youtube_Embedded_Rewrite. If there's still active code behind it, it's useless in 2022.

sure, they're in my tree now. with some preliminary testing (i.e. stackoverflow) it seems to be working. nullish coalescing is still not in any UXP tree so have to wait.

I notice for the Flex10, that from Bios version 93cn52ww up to last 93CN59WW (all 64 bit) their DSDT tables are always exact the same. The DSDT tables for Bios versions <= 93cn50ww bit 64 is different at 138 places. Because this is true for all versions of these 64 bit Bios, so this is valid also for all different Baytrail cpu's 64 bit Dietmar PS: This means, we will see via Debug the reason for the 2001 Bsod.

Hi @NotHereToPlayGames and @mina7601, thanks for wanting to be beta testers too! There are more beta testers here than future users! I'll send you both a PM! Cheers, AstroSkipper

Note that the solution above...depends on your POV and what sites you visit, but you may end up with TONS of certificates you'll NEVER need. Microsoft's default way is on demand, if a root certificate of the site doesn't exists in your store, a check is performed if MS trusts it and if it does, the certificate is fetched and put in the store.

@Dave-H This is from the old XP forum: After crazy work I succeed to connect the Lenovo Flex 10 notebook via an pcie mini to a RJ45 connection. I overcome the Whitelist in Bios of the Flex 10 with just deleting whole entry "DeviceSupport" GUID: B6845A50-9BAD-44DC-BE3E-20A8693D46E8 in Bios and flash with Epromer. The Realtek 8111H pcie minicard to RJ45 does not work on the Flex 10 board. I tried 2 different cards. The card is correct listed in Device Manager, the LED shows with yellow and green led connection but always the message appears, that no Lan cable is connected. Then I try an Intel Pcie minicard to Rj45 with chip 82574L from 2008(!) VEN_8086&DEV_10D3 . This card is supported for debug via Lan on Win8 and Win8.1 and XP SP3 now thanks to @Mov AX, 0xDEAD . At Amazon you still get this pcie mini card https://www.amazon.de/-/en/KALEA-INFORMATIQUE-Express-MiniPCIE-Controller/dp/B0788DG7NQ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3LK719OEQTEM6&keywords=82574+l+pcie+mini&qid=1651765585&sprefix=82574l+pcie+mini%2Caps%2C155&sr=8-6 And voila, for the very first time I can debug the Lenovo Flex 10 via Lan with Windbg Dietmar

As another probable solution you can use @heinoganda's certificate updater for XP. I used it on Win 7 and worked to solve some certificate issues I got a while ago. It is a manual process but some people would prefer it over an automatic update. https://msfn.org/board/topic/175170-root-certificates-and-revoked-certificates-for-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1110568 Cheers.

I agree, even 8.1 is rare nowadays with W10 1703 (Redstone 2) being the bare minimum now.

This has now been merged into the master branch of upstream-UXP: https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/92b3def6a88f9ea15c9e51e22a57b667edea29c0 Hopefully, it will also arrive in this weekend's roytam1 builds (fingers-crossed it doesn't break other aspects of the browser ) ...

Add https://www.cloudflare.com to the long list of sites that end up loading a blank page (latest St52 32-bit); CF homepage produces several TypeErrors in the Web Console... But seriously, today I jumped into a real deal breaker for UXP-based browsers: GitLab; it is no longer possible to sign into an existing GitLab account on a UXP-based browser (plus some others, read below) ... To begin with, to even successfully load GL pages in a UXP browser you're in need of the gh-wc-polyfill extension (manually/forcibly) installed (GL break things ever so often , make sure you're on the latest beta/stable release - currently v1.2.19). As long as you're not logged-in, things appear OK... STR: 1. Load, as a guest, e.g., https://gitlab.com/cleanflash/installer/-/releases (happens to be one of my bookmarks ) 2. Click on the "Sign in / Register" button (far right, top header); GL will load https://gitlab.com/users/sign_in/ 3. This is the crucial step where things broke ; to verify you're not an automated bot trying to sign-in, GL are serving your client (browser) with a CloudFlare-based "challenge" that it has to pass successfully in order for the sign-in page to display: During the last week(s), that "challenge" has been "upped" and is no longer compatible with UXP browsers ; the browser goes into an infinite loop of those "5 seconds" redirection cycles, "frying" your CPU in the process , and never affords the GL sign-in page below: FxESR 52.9.0 and (latest) Serpent 55 behave similarly (to St52) on my Vista SP2 32-bit machine; but I also gained access to a Win7 SP1 64-bit laptop and can report that Fx 56/ FxESR 60.9.0 / FxESR 68.12.0 are also unable to generate the GL sign-in page there; however, and that's really no surprise, the latest Fx 100.0 (32-bit) passes the GL challenge with flying colors and displays the GL sign-in page in ca. 2 sec ... The "challenge" is probably "feature"-based, rather than "UA"-based, because I tried to spoof "working" Fx/Chrome versions in Serpent 52, sadly with no success ... Back to the Vista machine, I also tried 360EEv11/12; the former (v11, Chromium 69 based), does require 1 to 3 redirection cycles (ca. 5-15sec, YMMV), but eventually does pass the GL challenge and the sign-in page is shown ; the latter (v12, Chromium 78 based) passes the "challenge" more effortlessly and affords the GL log-in page very quickly (the screenshot above is with that browser) ; I then used my GitHub account credentials to successfully access my GL account in 360EEv12 (I did not bother checking v13, I'm certain it will, too, work OK ). Just as a POC, I then exported (via an extension) ALL GitLab cookies from 360EEv12 to a "cookies.txt" file (Netscape format) and subsequently imported them (via another "legacy" extension) into latest Serpent 52; and that is the only way (obviously impractical ) I could browse GL being logged-in with St52: If anyone knows of a way to make GL log-in work natively in latest St52, do come forth!

Thanks for the heads up!

Another change has come. The contents of the updroots.sst file have been changed; the contents of the other * .sst files are unchanged.

just noticed UXP contributor is working on opt-chaining syntax: https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/1658#issuecomment-29898

Upon review, I will not be releasing any modifications to the "se" (Secure Browser) or "gt" (Game Browser) branches and will only stick with the "ee" (Extreme Explorer) branches. The 13.6 branch is only available as a "Game Browser" version. The 13.5 branch seems to be available in both "Secure Browser" and "Extreme Explorer" versions. The 13.1 branch was never pursued here at MSFN and partly because it is the "Secure Browser" version as opposed to the "Extreme Explorer" version that basically all English mods (that I'm aware of) all stem from.

New NewMoon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20220430-47be084a2-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20220430-47be084a2-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20220430-47be084a2-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win64-git-20220430-47be084a2-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 895274 part.44 Rename NS_POINTER_ENTER to ePointerEnter r=smaug (2055d66902) - Bug 895274 part.45 Rename NS_POINTER_OUT to ePointerOut r=smaug (efc0b6b1f5) - Bug 895274 part.46 Rename NS_POINTER_OVER to ePointerOver r=smaug (06898047f7) - Bug 895274 part.47 Rename NS_POINTER_DOWN to ePointerDown r=smaug (eadcd864c2) - Bug 895274 part.48 Rename NS_POINTER_UP to ePointerUp r=smaug (9a04678318) - Bug 895274 part.49 Rename NS_POINTER_MOVE to ePointerMove r=smaug (8963a5e5e3) - Bug 895274 part.50 Rename NS_CONTEXTMENU_MESSAGE_START to eContextMenuFirst r=smaug (5eea077f97) - Bug 895274 part.51 Rename NS_CONTEXTMENU to eContextMenu r=smaug (df9153a883) - Bug 895274 part.52 Get rid of NS_PAGE_RESTORE due to unused r=smaug (5555386a4f) - Bug 895274 part.53 Rename NS_STREAM_EVENT_START to eStreamEventFirst r=smaug (873f2e5b5c) - Bug 895274 part.54 Rename NS_READYSTATECHANGE to eReadyStateChange r=smaug (21d91c9a87) - Bug 895274 part.55 Rename NS_BEFORE_PAGE_UNLOAD to eBeforeUnload r=smaug (1da6db3491) - Bug 1203272 - Fix build of nsMemoryReporterManager on linux systems without mallinfo(). r=glandium,njn. (4a99986dc4) - Bug 895274 part.56 Rename NS_POPSTATE to ePopState r=smaug (c51dbbb2e0) - Bug 895274 part.57 Rename NS_LOAD_ERROR to eLoadError r=smaug (e4b267ec78) - Bug 895274 part.58 Rename NS_IMAGE_ABORT to eImageAbort r=smaug (88a62156dd) - Bug 895274 part.59 Rename NS_HASHCHANGE to eHashChange r=smaug (7552f57017) - Bug 895274 part.60 Rename NS_PAGE_UNLOAD to eUnload r=smaug (20153f814e) - Bug 895274 part.61 Rename NS_LOAD to eLoad r=smaug (1072bcbb81) - Bug 895274 part.62 Rename NS_FORM_EVENT_START to eFormEventFirst r=smaug (e99f85df0c) - Bug 895274 part.63 Rename NS_FORM_SUBMIT to eFormSubmit r=smaug (b7ebab7fe0) - Bug 895274 part.64 Rename NS_FORM_RESET to eFormReset r=smaug (74a3518bf6) - Bug 895274 part.65 Rename NS_FORM_CHANGE to eFormChange r=smaug (64dafe9aaa) - Bug 895274 part.66 Rename NS_FORM_SELECTED to eFormSelect r=smaug (4437b9a60c) - Bug 895274 part.67 Rename NS_FORM_INVALID to eFormInvalid r=smaug (8122f6e301) - Bug 895274 part.68 Rename NS_FOCUS_EVENT_START to eFocusEventFirst r=smaug (5066c46dc1) - Bug 895274 part.69 Rename NS_FOCUS_CONTENT to eFocus r=smaug (79a443a14c) - Bug 895274 part.70 Rename NS_BLUR_CONTENT to eBlur r=smaug (64515beb6a) - Bug 895274 part.71 Rename NS_UI_EVENT_START to eLegacyUIEventFirst r=smaug (02b8a5cccd) - Bug 895274 part.72 Rename NS_UI_ACTIVATE to eLegacyDOMActivate r=smaug (884aa917ec) - Bug 895274 part.73 Rename NS_UI_FOCUSIN to eLegacyDOMFocusIn r=smaug (905f681593) - Bug 895274 part.74 Rename NS_UI_FOCUSOUT to eLegacyDOMFocusOut r=smaug (b38a2ab56c) - Bug 895274 part.75 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_EVENT_START to eDragDropEventFirst, define eDragDropEventLast and correct the type and name of event message in DataTransfer r=smaug (e8ac6a9112) - Bug 895274 part.76 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_LEAVE to eDragLeave r=smaug (6948c3cddc) - Bug 895274 part.77 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_DROP to eDrop r=smaug (9e67b051ee) - Bug 895274 part.78 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_START to eDragStart r=smaug (f13fc7cf41) - Bug 1184967 P1 Set RequestMode based on LoadInfo securityMode and client request content policy. r=nsm (b6d7f3fed7) - Bug 1173934 Disable broken fetch-frame-resources.https.html wpt tests. r=jgraham (7d8e203c6a) - Bug 1187722 Fix bad origins, error page handling, and spec issues in fetch-frame-resources.https.html. r=jgraham (fecdaeddfc) - Bug 1184967 P2 Update fetch-frame-resource.https.html CORS checks to expect pass. r=jgraham (7550cba86d) - Bug 1184967 P3 Switch mochitest redirect tests back to returning a CORS Response. r=nsm (2f803e26ac) - spacing (21c5e1f343) (34aef4862) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 895274 part.79 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_END to eDragEnd r=smaug (d8af0a9474) - Bug 895274 part.80 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_DRAG to eDrag r=smaug (c52b1e9051) - Bug 895274 part.81 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_OVER to eDragOver r=smaug (1575b62285) - Bug 1199336 - Fix jank/hangs dragging files into the browser due to O(n^2) behavior in the Cocoa widget drag-and-drop code. r=mstange (d08bf7eb39) - Bug 895274 part.82 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_ENTER to eDragEnter r=smaug (a4cc62f29b) - Bug 895274 part.83 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_EXIT to eDragExit r=smaug (a9bc6efbc6) - Bug 895274 part.84 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_DRAGDROP to eLegacyDragDrop r=smaug (1e0e2fc36c) - Bug 895274 part.85 Rename NS_DRAGDROP_GESTURE to eLegacyDragGesture r=smaug (02b65c9714) - Bug 895274 part.86 Rename NS_XUL_EVENT_START to eXULEventFirst r=smaug (fdbf788d30) - Bug 895274 part.87 Rename NS_XUL_POPUP_SHOWING to eXULPopupShowing r=smaug (be6db4598b) - Bug 895274 part.88 Rename NS_XUL_POPUP_SHOWN to eXULPopupShown r=smaug (aa31f0604c) - Bug 895274 part.89 Rename NS_XUL_POPUP_HIDING to eXULPopupHiding r=smaug (31aa9bba3f) - Bug 895274 part.90 Rename NS_XUL_POPUP_HIDDEN to eXULPopupHidden r=smaug (3a16c46a47) - Bug 895274 part.91 Rename NS_XUL_BROADCAST to eXULBroadcast r=smaug (1f6a9ba826) - Bug 895274 part.92 Rename NS_XUL_COMMAND_UPDATE to eXULCommandUpdate r=smaug (a905f91d85) - Bug 895274 part.93 Rename NS_XULCOMMAND_EVENT_START to eXULCommandEventFirst r=smaug (676ccd9544) - Bug 895274 part.94 Rename NS_XUL_COMMAND to eXULCommand r=smaug (d91d925b72) - Bug 895274 part.104 Rename NS_PAGETRANSITION_START to ePageTransitionEventFirst r=smaug (0e481eb39c) - Bug 895274 part.105 Rename NS_PAGE_SHOW to ePageShow r=smaug (f45dc12913) - Bug 895274 part.106 Rename NS_PAGE_HIDE to ePageHide r=smaug (b3985be873) - Bug 895274 part.107 Get rid of NS_SVG_ABORT and NS_SVG_ERROR due to unused r=smaug (d129144cd4) - Bug 895274 part.108 Rename NS_SVG_EVENT_START to eSVGEventFirst r=smaug (3cbb4f9e36) - Bug 895274 part.109 Rename NS_SVG_LOAD to eSVGLoad r=smaug (bf00acdd16) - Bug 895274 part.110 Rename NS_SVG_UNLOAD to eSVGUnload r=smaug (e14939e8d5) - Bug 895274 part.111 Rename NS_SVG_RESIZE to eSVGResize r=smaug (b81017a3dc) - Bug 895274 part.112 Rename NS_SVG_SCROLL to eSVGScroll r=smaug (9b0ce02714) - Bug 895274 part.113 Rename NS_SVGZOOM_EVENT_START to eSVGZoomEventFirst r=smaug (ee1f48e8b4) - Bug 895274 part.114 Rename NS_SVG_ZOOM to eSVGZoom r=smaug (8274e50f8c) (47be084a2)

I think it's pointless because there won't be any useful apps available on 8.0 anyway