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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
roytam1 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250802-450ca22c4-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250802-450ca22c4-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2835 - Part 1: Expose nsCSSRuleProcessor::CascadeSheet (be3d8491) (90903923a) - import from UXP: Issue #2835 - Part 2: Implement processing of import rules based on order of appearance (37230e7b) (c36257aad) - import from UXP: No issue - Regenerate devtools CSS database (2c39bb79) (28ff7ce39) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Add CSS color-mix keyword support (055a685c) (509d89953) - import from UXP: - Issue #2489: ColorMixValue support and structure (7800eb01) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix serialization support (b42cca5f) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix computation support (58d72062) - Issue #2489: Include color-mix to avoid filtering (6b938c48) - Issue #2489: Update enum class syntax (99d7fb8e) - Issue #2489: Create ColorMixValue structure (cb60df21) (2a5c28b87) - ported from UXP: Issue #2489: color-mix function parsing (7899850a) (ce3a0f957) - import from UXP: - Issue #2489: Fix CSS color-mix() percentage parsing (a3cb7991) - Issue #2489: Remove unnecessary initializations (eb7eacc5) (d9b6054ab) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Improve color-mix() computation algorithm (ff5f3b2b) (102fddce4) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Adding RGB to HSL function (cb2547ef) (1e079074e) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Allow color-mix() to differentiate color spaces (01b0b825) (d6fd0467e) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Allow HSL with alpha mixing (22be9f7f) (b65401f37) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Allow SRGB with alpha mixing (5fe574de) (d8462ab02) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Disallow percentage overflow and underflow (052b5d1f) (37719c1ad) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Produce more accurate computations (2855cd6d) (45cf9eb91) - import from UXP: Issue #2790 - Part 1: Add: event state, pseudo-class mapping, SetAutofilled methods (13d10540) (0a5f1cc14) - ported from UXP: - Issue #2790 - Part 2: Address BZ bugs: 1355438 and 1341230 (d99eab0d) - Issue #2790 - Part 3: Address BZ bug 1849122 and resolve build issues (4cdfb9e1) (eff68ee91) - ported from UXP: Issue #2790 - Part 4: Working non persistent autofill highlight (bf8cfcc9) (2fae301fd) - ported from UXP: - Issue #2790 - Part 5: Persistent highlight despite blur click (156c7550) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove debugging lines (459ed6ea) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove whitespaces (70cbf0df) - Issue #2790 - Part 6: Highlight color change and remove important (61ad3b8d) - Issue #2790 - Part 7: Setting of contrasting color and fixing of last commit's issues (61f92f89) (8c244cfe3) - import from UXP: Issue #2489 - Follow-up: Add `color-mix()` manual test. (cea125a0) (8377e97b3) - import from UXP: [DOM] Fix crash in `<object>` scheme checking code. (838be261) (59c6b3671) - [SSUAO] update youtube's SSUAO (9fbf05a39) - import from UXP: [DOM] Simplify `<object>` scheme check code and fix plugin handling. (ace2c1c1) (450ca22c4) - Today
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
roytam1 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250802-7bda12e7-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250802-7bda12e7-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250802-id-656ea98-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250802-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
roytam1 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250802-3219d2d-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250802-3219d2d-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250802-3219d2d-uxp-3553319265-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2835 - Part 1: Expose nsCSSRuleProcessor::CascadeSheet (be3d8491c7) - Issue #2835 - Part 2: Implement processing of import rules based on order of appearance (37230e7b21) - No issue - Regenerate devtools CSS database (2c39bb7901) - Issue #2489: Add CSS color-mix keyword support (055a685c2e) - Issue #2489: ColorMixValue support and structure (7800eb0126) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix serialization support (b42cca5fa5) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix computation support (58d7206259) - Issue #2489: Include color-mix to avoid filtering (6b938c48a5) - Issue #2489: Update enum class syntax (99d7fb8e95) - Issue #2489: Create ColorMixValue structure (cb60df2169) - Issue #2489: color-mix function parsing (7899850a19) - Issue #2489: Fix CSS color-mix() percentage parsing (a3cb799126) - Issue #2489: Remove unnecessary initializations (eb7eacc565) - Issue #2489: Improve color-mix() computation algorithm (ff5f3b2b2d) - Issue #2489: Adding RGB to HSL function (cb2547efa3) - Issue #2489: Allow color-mix() to differentiate color spaces (01b0b8251d) - Issue #2489: Allow HSL with alpha mixing (22be9f7fc6) - Issue #2489: Allow SRGB with alpha mixing (5fe574de22) - Issue #2489: Disallow percentage overflow and underflow (052b5d1ffa) - Issue #2489: Produce more accurate computations (2855cd6ded) - Issue #2790 - Part 1: Add: event state, pseudo-class mapping, SetAutofilled methods (13d1054046) - Issue #2790 - Part 2: Address BZ bugs: 1355438 and 1341230 (d99eab0d9d) - Issue #2790 - Part 3: Address BZ bug 1849122 and resolve build issues (4cdfb9e16b) - Issue #2790 - Part 4: Working non persistent autofill highlight (bf8cfcc980) - Issue #2790 - Part 5: Persistent highlight despite blur click (156c755085) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove debugging lines (459ed6ea85) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove whitespaces (70cbf0dfd3) - Issue #2790 - Part 6: Highlight color change and remove important (61ad3b8d6e) - Issue #2790 - Part 7: Setting of contrasting color and fixing of last commit's issues (61f92f89ea) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Correct whitespaces (429e05c8a1) - Issue #2489 - Follow-up: Add `color-mix()` manual test. (cea125a01d) - [DOM] Fix crash in `<object>` scheme checking code. (838be26145) - [DOM] Simplify `<object>` scheme check code and fix plugin handling. (ace2c1c1ee) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
roytam1 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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released: bug fix for win32k.sys/CreateXlateObject
Start Me Up replied to Start Me Up's topic in Windows 2000/2003/NT4
A very small bit of news: The update "WINDOWS2000-OTSKB000001-V4-X86-INTL.exe" has been released to the general public. Users of version 3 are advised to update to version 4. The help file "OTSKB.chm" has been updated slightly. --- things to do: Windows XP update: Analysis of the version "5.1.2600.7334" of the file "win32k.sys". Then update "code.htm". Write the version "5.1.2601.0001" of the file "win32k.sys". Then update "code.htm". add the update "Windows XP/OTSKB000001-V1" to the help file write the update test it release it Windows Server 2003 update: Analysis of the version "5.2.3790.6946" of the file "win32k.sys". Then update "code.htm". Write the version "5.2.3791.0001" of the file "win32k.sys". Then update "code.htm". add the update "Windows Server 2003/OTSKB000001-V1" to the help file write the update test it release it Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 update: Analysis of the version "5.1.2600.7684" of the file "win32k.sys". Then update "code.htm". Write the version "5.1.2602.0001" of the file "win32k.sys". Then update "code.htm". add the update "Windows Embedded POSReady 2009/OTSKB000001-V1" to the help file write the update test it release it -
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Hey there, I just want to thank you for all your work on Start All Back. It's been extremely helpful. Especially as I use this machine on a order picker and quite often need my notifications to be at the top of the screen so being able to put the taskbar up there is extremely helpful. I have encountered an issue I want to ask if anybody else has run into. I have this on one of my Windows 11 machines at work and I use the Windows key followed by a number to switch windows all the time. (WIN+1, 2, 3, Depending on the position of the app I want it to switch to.) But about a month and a half ago it started scrolling to the left on the taskbar icons instead of directly selecting the program regardless of what button I press. I'm running Start All Back 3.9.13 on Windows 11 Enterprise 24H2 OS build 26100.4270 Feature Pack 1000.26100.66.0 So if I try to switch to the first program on my taskbar,(using WIN+1) For example, it will highlight the one at the end and then just continue highlighting down the programs, but never actually switch to the window. This functionality works perfectly fine on my 24H2 system at home, and used to work perfectly on this machine too. I have also tried shutting down every running application other than start all back, as well as a multiple complete reinstalls, The only other piece of software on here that is new would be the Dell peripheral manager that they forcibly installed, despite me not using any Dell peripherals. The software was working fine with SAB, when this was installed, but that's the most recent piece of software added. Besides that, I have my Microsoft keyboard driver, which I've had for the entire time I've owned this machine, However, shutting down this software has no change. If I switch back to the original taskbar the function works perfectly, so I'm unsure as to what happened. So I'm wondering if you guys have any ideas. Thanks for your time.
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
Mathwiz replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Fascinating. The setting was always there (since FF 28 or so); Mo just changed the default. -
Do you have exact same installation ISO? I think mine is different.
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Lars-Erik started following Strange behaviour together with Open-Shell
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I found a very strange bug/vehaviour in StartAllBack when used together with Open-Shell menu extension :-/ I wanted to use a start manu icon from Open-Shell that I could not get to function properly when selected from StartAllBack. So I created a blank SVG and choose that as the icon in StartAllBack. Then I set Open-Shell to replace the start menu button. At start it look allright and everything is fine.... But then I inserted a USB and the "eject" icon appeared in the tray. Then the whole StartAllBack taskbar switch to the left. When I removed the USB (and the "eject" icon disappeared) the StartAllBack taskbar moved even further to the left... And as you can see from the attached picture it just goes on... Why is this happening, and is there a way to fix this?
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
adata replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
1. The map is not loading; only a white background is visible. https://plan.tomtom.com 2. The map is not loading https://www.electricitymaps.com https://portal.electricitymaps.com 3. AI DuckDuck is not working https://duck.ai When attempting to write a query, we always receive the message: Oops... Duck.ai is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. -
There are only three "requirements" for Win11 that I am aware of. TPM, Secure Boot, and 8+ GB RAM. RUFUS removes all three. Legal and legit OS by all metrics. Just modifies the installation to install on systems not meeting all three of those "requirements". (edit: though I'm not sure why a Win11 requirements post was placed in a Win10 ESU thread, but regardless, use RUFUS to remove those ARBITRARY "requirements", be it Win10 or Win11)
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I enrolled in the ESU program for both the desktop & the laptop. The desktop meets the requirements for Windows 11. The laptop, despite having TPM 2.0, does not. The laptop does have a Blu-Ray player, however, so I'm not replacing it.
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A general personal opinion on the actions of an anonymous large group of people many years ago is fine as far as I'm concerned, as long as it's not based on something like racism of course. That is my final word on this, and it should be yours too. Thank you.
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EOL notifications after installing for any update from July 2022 and onwards: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\EOSNotify] "DiscontinueEOS"=dword:00000001
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The patch that you are referring to https://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/18176-vistaw2k8-x64-on-modern-hardware/ has to be applied to this exact version of acpi.sys 6.0.6002.24312 (vistasp2_ldr_escrow.180308-1636) make sure you have the right version But the necessary patch can be different for various hardware platforms
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I totally agree with both hands! Windows 7 was very unstable, and needed to reboot frequently. luckily I don't use 7. If it says one needs to make a donation, seems scummy, yes, but the free ones could also be gathering info, phishing.., No one actually knows, the OP @Atom99, we are sorry.
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Most notorious telemetry updates for Win 7 and their descriptions: KB4493132-x86-x64 (End of support notification for Windows 7) KB4524752-x86-x64 (End of support notification for Windows 7 Pro) KB971033-x86-x64 (Update for Windows activation verification technologies) KB2952664-x86-x64 (System compatibility update for transition to Windows 10) KB2977759-x86-x64 (Diagnostics for compatibility issues for transition to Windows 10) KB3021917-x86-x64 (System diagnostics and telemetry for transition to Windows 10) KB3035583-x86-x64 (Update installs the ‘Get Windows 10’ app) KB3068708-x86-x64 (Update to improve quality and telemetry diagnostics) KB3075249-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to the consent.exe file) KB3080149-x86-x64 (Update for CEIP and telemetry diagnostics) KB3081954-x86-x64 (Update to improve working folders and telemetry) KB3123862-x86-x64 (Updated capabilities for upgrading to Windows 10) KB3139923-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to consent.exe file) KB3150513-x86-x64 (Updated configurations for compatibility diagnostics) KB3161608-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to consent.exe file) KB3163589-x86-x64 (Message about running an outdated version of Windows) KB3172605-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to consent.exe) KB3173040-x86-x64 (Notification about the expiration of the Windows 10 upgrade offer) KB3125574-v4 (also inludes unnamed telemetry)
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
Joseph_sw replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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@cmalex Thanks again for your efforts to keep Python alive on vintage operating systems! Using your latest Python 3.9 environment, I successfully updated the included yt-dlp via pip to the Nightly build: pip install -U --pre "yt-dlp[default]" Now I get the warning: `yt-dlp -v` output: [debug] Command-line config: ['-v'] [debug] User config "C:\Documents and Settings\Nico\Application Data\yt-dlp\config.txt": ['--rm-cache-dir', '--console-title', '--add-metadata', '--embed-thumbnail', '--convert-thumbnails', 'jpg', '--ppa', 'ffmpeg:-metadata synopsis=""', '-o', '~/Bureaublad/%(title)s.%(ext)s', '-S', 'res:720,vcodec:h264,acodec:mp4a', '--sponsorblock-remove', 'all'] Deprecated Feature: Support for Python version 3.9 has been deprecated. Please update to Python 3.10 or above [debug] Encodings: locale cp1252, fs utf-8, pref cp1252, out cp1252 (No VT), error cp1252 (No VT), screen cp1252 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nightly@2025.07.31.233123 from yt-dlp/yt-dlp-nightly-builds [71f30921a] (pip) [debug] Python 3.9.13 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-XP-5.1.2600-SP3 (OpenSSL 1.1.1i 8 Dec 2020) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg N-116828-g6aafe61-Reino (fdk,setts), ffprobe N-116828-g6aafe61-Reino, phantomjs 1.9.8 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.07.14, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.4, sqlite3-3.37.2, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1858 extractors Removing cache dir C:\Documents and Settings\Nico/.cache\yt-dlp .. Python 3.9 support will be fully dropped in October 2025 (#13861). See also #13858. Is it feasible for you to port Python 3.10 or even 3.11 to Windows XP? I'm sure the community here would be very grateful if you succeeded.
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Windows Replacing the 'Blue Screen of Death'
Karla Sleutel replied to Monroe's topic in Technology News
@Dave-H, please clear up, is it fine to publicly refer to a group of people as id*ots, namely Microsoft testers, if they are not MSFN members? -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
roytam1 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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You are very welcome to ask, of course, we always greet active members with joy. But the sad fact is no one here can get you 100 percent guarantee. People who caught fakes are simply left, and no Extended Kernels developers present. Besides, like I wrote, Windows 7 userbase here is so thin. almost non-existent! No one to test it.
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Dreamskin Aesthetics joined the community
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Greetings. >"ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'PyInstaller.__main__'; 'PyInstaller' is not a package [end of output]" There is some issues with python*._pth files with paths for searching modules. Please try to add it or remove it ;-) Best regards.
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The "Phishing URL Blocklist" broke AVSForum.com today. I don't know why but suddenly it's blocking all CSS URLs with an ampersand (&), which made a complete mess of AVSForum.com. Weird. Turned it off in the UBO Legacy dashboard and AVSForum is good again.
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
Mathwiz replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The change to browser behavior makes some sense: The Referer header was always an information leak, so the change improves privacy when following links (the target doesn't know where you came from). But if you're right, CloudFlare is abusing that change to block older browsers. Hopefully either MCP or @roytam1 can develop a fix soon.