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[NotHereToPlayGames]

Totally understood.

I was forced into early retirement when the US Electric Vehicle industry basically failed all optimistic projections.

Fixed income, was expecting another 5 to 8 years of work, too close to [full] retirement age for companies to choose me over somebody younger.

So I'm kind of viewing it as a 1 or 2 year "vacation" then see where the US Electric Vehicle and my job skillsets fall with hiring market conditions.

Odd twist of fate in a way.  EV industry paid me good income, EV industry took that away several years too soon, and I personally *never* plan on owning an EV.

So in an odd way, my own buying preferences as far as automotive goes kind of shot myself in the foot, lol.

Edited September 26 by NotHereToPlayGames

[EliraFriesnan]

On 9/21/2025 at 7:18 PM, Mathwiz said:

I wasn't misleading anyone. I said "pluck some 100 Euro notes", not pluck ONE 100 Euro note,"

Some 100 won't do. It'd be right if you said some 500 Euro notes. I'm looking at a new PC right now, I want to upgrade, it's about 3000 CHF for a new Desktop.

Someone gave me a Haswel (2013), and it struggles with this Firefox.

This one, a very cheap casing, ugly.

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product/captiva-r89-085-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-64-gb-2000-gb-geforce-rtx-5080-pc-54336989

[VistaLover]

(Totally off-topic, but I'm not the one who started that  ...)

22 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

It'd be right if you said some 500 Euro notes.

... People who live in one of the Eurozone countries should have, by now, realised that the ECB (European Central Bank) and Eurozone countries' governments have practically outlawed the €500 banknote (purple in colour); the same can be also said about the €200 banknote (yellow); these two have been put out of normal circulation for everyday usage many years ago...

Also, I have many months myself to spot even a €100 banknote (green); the highest denomination in circulation for everyday use is currently the €50 banknote (brownish); besides, governments have made it mandatory to pay with "plastic" money (credit/debit cards, physical or digital forms of them, money transfers, etc.) for a sizeable portion of your expenses (40% here in Greece), else you'll be "fined" with an increased income tax; so, people tend to move away from cash; the youth of today don't normally have cash in their pockets, this includes coins, too... And you can't buy here something that is over €500 worth with just plain cash (in one go) - you can probably still pay for the first €500 with banknotes, the rest has to be paid with some other "money" form...

All those "anti-cash" measures have been put in place to combat so called "black money" ; cash is anonymous, while any other accepted form of payment isn't; just like in the Internet, "privacy" is a thing of the distant past  ...

Want to buy a new and shiny PC/laptop? Better have your bank card with you; or, as is the trend among the youth nowadays, your "digital bank card" stored inside your mobile phone ...

[EliraFriesnan]

11 hours ago, VistaLover said:

(Totally off-topic, but I'm not the one who started that  ...)

... People who live in one of the Eurozone countries should have, by now, realised that the ECB (European Central Bank) and Eurozone countries' governments have practically outlawed the €500 banknote (purple in colour); the same can be also said about the €200 banknote (yellow); these two have been put out of normal circulation for everyday usage many years ago.....

Just so you know, Switzerland is not in EU, and I always felt EU was on the left side, Greece especially. Won't be travelling there to boost your economy, thanks for the heads up.

"Cash is a frequently used payment method in Switzerland"
https://wise.com/gb/blog/cash-or-card-in-switzerland

"Can I Use Cash in Switzerland?"
"the prevalence of cash payments"
https://www.mydayfinance.com/archives/28207
Not OT since we discuss computers that can properly handle this bloated browser.

[Mathwiz]

On 9/22/2025 at 4:22 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Not the folks that I know. They live paycheck to paycheck, not a dime in savings, but can't keep a phone more than a mere six months or so without cracking it. They upgrade OFTEN, *very* often, not because they can "afford to", but because they eventually get tired of the cracked screen that their NEGLIGENCE added to the phone they do have.

Accidents happen, but cell phone insurance and repair shops exist, so I'd say that if you're (a) so chronically careless with your phones that you're repeatedly breaking their screens, and (b) using that as an excuse to buy a new phone rather than getting your old one repaired, methinks you really wanted a new phone all along. So evidently, they can afford a new phone after all (or at least, they think they can).

On 9/26/2025 at 2:59 PM, Jonathan-nighthawk said:

I know that some peoples have a "psychosis" that make them change their devices each time one new pops out, but i just cannot understand them.

I think I figured it out, at least in the US. Here, new phones are often sold locked to a service provider, and paid for over a 2 to 3 year period. So instead of having to shell out (say) $1200 for a new phone, it's $40/mo for 30 months on top of the cost for cell service. Once you're used to that scheme, it's tempting to just get a new phone and sell the old one once it's paid off, rather than keeping the old one and pocketing the $40/mo savings. Also, both Apple and Google make it easy to upgrade without losing apps, data, etc. (at least, as long as you don't want to switch between those two platforms!)

I suspect those factors go a long way toward explaining why we Americans are so willing to throw away good phones every few years. But they don't apply to PCs, even despite the "Androidification" of Windows since Windows 10. It's still painful and expensive to move to a newer PC, still arrogant of anyone to suggest that those dealing with artificial blocks on older Web browsers should just "buy a new PC" (to get back to the original topic), and so there's still a reason for sites like MSFN and developers like @K4sum1 to keep working on projects like R3dfox for older PCs that run older OSes like Windows Vista or 7.

[Mathwiz]

On 9/29/2025 at 7:52 PM, EliraFriesnan said:

Some 100 won't do. It'd be right if you said some 500 Euro notes.

The English word "some" is not limited to "fewer than ten," as you appear to insist on believing. As with most words in most languages, its meaning depends on context. I already made the point that "some" is not synonymous with "a few," but you omitted that part of my post when you quoted me.

If one could pluck notes from a money tree as easily as leaves from an actual tree, it would be quite easy to pluck a dozen, or even a score, of them, don't you think?

I find this argument absurd, tiresome, and pointless. You are hereby ignored.

[Mathwiz]

On 9/30/2025 at 7:28 PM, VistaLover said:

And you can't buy here something that is over €500 worth with just plain cash (in one go) - you can probably still pay for the first €500 with banknotes, the rest has to be paid with some other "money" form...

All those "anti-cash" measures have been put in place to combat so called "black money" ; cash is anonymous, while any other accepted form of payment isn't; just like in the Internet, "privacy" is a thing of the distant past  ...

Want to buy a new and shiny PC/laptop? Better have your bank card with you

That is interesting, VL. I always learn something from your posts!

Here in the US, cash transactions aren't quite so discouraged (thank goodness for privacy), but large cash transactions are nonetheless quite rare. Given the risk of theft or loss, I'd probably never plunk down $2000 cash for a new PC even if I had a money tree! I'd pluck those notes and deposit them in my bank account as fast as they grew....

I guess, for Eurozone residents craving privacy, there's still cryptocurrency, but that has its own headaches.