My Browser Builds (Part 5)

[NotHereToPlayGames]

2 hours ago, adata said:

Map is not loading https://odjazdowykrakow.pl/mapa

There is no map in Chrome v140 on Win10 either.  (for reference)

Edited Wednesday at 05:50 PM by NotHereToPlayGames

[VistaLover]

6 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

8 hours ago, adata said:

Map is not loading https://odjazdowykrakow.pl/mapa

There is no map in Chrome v140

... But it loads OK in r3dfox-140.0.4: 

so this isn't, probably, a site issue  ... Do note that this service embeds "maps" from the 

https://openmaptiles.org/

https://www.openstreetmap.org

projects and for the maps to display correctly in a browser, it has to have WebGL (1 or 2) support enabled (and I remember from his 360EE days that NHTPG has a tendency to disable WebGL in his browsers  ) ...

If your NM28/St52 copy has WebGL support enabled (check in about:support -> graphics), then the most probable reason the Krakow map doesn't load is UXP's Javascript-related shortcomings  ; in a slightly older (not current) NM28 build, BrowserConsole reports a TypeError: 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

For the record, WebGL is (and always has been) *ENABLED* on my profiles.

MSFN Membership (at the time) "hype and propaganda" and "overly-paranoid" had it disabled in the uploaded/shared 360Chrome config.

Only to later be ENABLED because most "this web site doesn't work" were dang near always tied to WebGL.

ie, I eventually started IGNORING the "overly-paranoid".   

Edited Thursday at 12:40 PM by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I can report that on my end (Serpent 52 and Chrome v140 on Win10) that various WebGL web sites *DO* work on my Intel i7-4770 but do *NOT* work (same exact Windows install, same exact browser profile) on my Intel Core2 Quad Q6700.

On my i7-4770, it *seems to be* tied to having five monitors and Serpent 52 has to be forced to use what about:support labels as #2 (by disabling #1 in Device Manager).

So HARDWARE *does* dictate whether the map will load or not!

 

 

Edited Thursday at 12:42 PM by NotHereToPlayGames

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[VistaLover]

4 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

that various WebGL web sites *DO* work on my Intel i7-4770 but do *NOT* work (same exact Windows install, same exact browser profile) on my Intel Core2 Quad Q6700.

I fail to see how this is a CPU-related issue (but, please, someone correct me if you have concrete technical details that prove the opposite); I disabled WASM in my browser, but the Krakow map still loaded fine; unless each one of the cited CPUs (Intel i7-4770 vs Intel Core2 Quad Q6700) comes with an embedded iGPU, so it may well be an iGPU "issue" on your case; FTR, the laptop my screengrab was taken on comes with an Intel Core2 Duo T5250 @1.50GHz CPU (Merom), with a Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family iGPU, both pieces of junk by today's standards...

@adata has failed to provide any detail about their H/W, or even browser build, other than the info under their avatar that they're running XP SP2 x64; as I've hinted already, if at least WebGL 1 is functional in their UXP browser (and other WebGL-based sites load OK), this is likely a JS issue...

I no more use UXP as my main platform on Vista SP2 32-bit, so I'm not very likely to dig any deeper on this  ...

Edited Thursday at 03:24 PM by VistaLover

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Agreed!

I shouldn't have tied to CPU but rather tied to GPU.

My bottom-line remains the same, same EXACT browser profile, both Serpent 52 and Chrome 140) *DOES* work on my "i7+gpu hardware" but does *NOT* work on my "core2+gpu" hardware.

I won't really be digging in deeper here either.  My *LIMITED* tests *reveal* (at least between two of my computers) that this is clearly HARDWARE-RELATED (and perhaps even with about:config "flags" as a WORKAROUND for said hardware).

And we would need details on the Original Poster's HARDWARE to go any further.

Edited Thursday at 04:19 PM by NotHereToPlayGames

[AstroSkipper]

Personally, I don't expect modern websites that are full of multimedia or completely overloaded to still run in UXP browsers under old OSes like Windows XP, but I am happy about those that still do. All others are called up by me under Android 10 and above. That's why I'm extremely relaxed about the whole thing. The more websites running in New Moon or Serpent, the better, but if not, then that's just the way it is.

[RamonUn]

I was able to login in with OAth2 using MailNews with an outlook account.

I had to go in the config editor and set *general.useragent.compatMode.firefox* to true. Then the Microsoft login page displayed properly and worked.

Hope it helps some folks, I am using windows server 2003

[AstroSkipper]

6 hours ago, RamonUn said:

I was able to login in with OAth2 using MailNews with an outlook account.

I had to go in the config editor and set *general.useragent.compatMode.firefox* to true. Then the Microsoft login page displayed properly and worked.

Hope it helps some folks, I am using windows server 2003

Thanks for this tip! Finally, a working login form appears. Unfortunately, a login into a personal Outlook email account is not possible. Only for school or work accounts. Thank you, Microsoft! 

Edited 11 hours ago by AstroSkipper
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[roytam1]

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251220-3219d2d-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20251220-3219d2d-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251220-3219d2d-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2873 - Don't let toolkit override colors of autofilled form elements. (17d951328f)
- Issue #2861 - Part 1: Allow nsNPAPIPlugin::RunPluginOOP to be made false. (d2ab969724)
- Issue #2861 - Part 2: Restore nsIPluginHost.isPluginOOP. (69ebe8322d)
- Issue #2861 - Remove checks that forcibly enable or disable OOP. (e6d9cc0146)
- Issue #2875 - Cleanup: Remove leading whitespace in nsPluginHost.cpp. (372df4ebe7)
- Issue #2861 - Remove Mac-specific ifdefs. (108523f5fd)
- Issue #2875 - Ensure OOP for plugins by default even if pref couldn't be found. (cdab710ed0)
- Issue #2861 - Bring back forced OOPP for GTK3. (dd61d079b0)
- Issue #2861 - Part 2 Follow-up: nsIPluginHost.isPluginOOP should not always return true. (668296cf5d)
- [devtools] Further improve "Copy as cURL" (b3c406bb25)
- [js] Append InstSize factor for secondary range veneers. (81bcafc331)
- [DOM] Add stride check for canvas tex conversion from blob. (95e0feec7c)
- [devtools] Further improve "Copy as cURL" (68fa0f0d54)
- [image] Use the TriggeringPrincipal if we have one, not the SystemPrincipal (4667b7f4b0)
- [NSS] Destroy certificate on error paths (01d894938b)
- Issue Pale-Moon#2002 - Remove FreeBSD compat13x dependency on 15.x. Remove the 2 libutil OS_LIBS and dynamically load libutil.so instead. (2a2a85f888)
- Issue #2865 - Implement `URL.canParse()` (12e5c5c303)

Official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build:
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1979 - Use async callback to update cache UI (7e23650580)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1914 - Update several SSUAOs (da35b48afd)
- [Pale-Moon] Un-prefix -moz-user-select (06890bcb06)
- [Pale-Moon] Remove Instagram SSUAO (4265868605)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1987 - Use `overflow: clip` (88f220896b)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1954 - Reset `userTypedValue` if fragment navigating within a doc. (c167bc756f)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1991 - Add UI preference for reduced visual motion. (58648a77ad)
- [Pale-Moon] Update Windows version check caller after WindowsVersion.h updates. (f0d40ae44b)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 1: Update AppMenu icons (6933910ed5)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 2: Tweak Windows 10+ styling. (02fac4d52e)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 3: Remove italic style from AppMenu edit label. (f61835829a)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 4: Fix issues with the main toolbar. (5f2bc6123b)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 5: Slightly more breathing room for the window title. (1843e173cf)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 6: Overhaul caption buttons and add win 11 specifics. (ca7e904b27)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 7: Remove glass override for Win 10/11. (4af2abb312)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 8: Minor tweaks and update downloads button styling. (4e3531ed96)
- [Pale-Moon] No Issue - http -> https for start.palemoon.org default. (cdd4d99499)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Correct default non-compositing color on Win 11 to RGB 243. (549e05be0c)
- [Pale-Moon] Add Win11 styling in browser-title.css (442965e997)
- [Pale-Moon] Add id to viewToolbarsMenu's menupopup (c955ee0ac4)

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- [Pale-Moon] partly revert rev f0d40ae4 to fix build (b9f12b43c6)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

[roytam1]

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20251220-40a79c75-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20251220-40a79c75-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20251220-id-656ea98-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20251220-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

[roytam1]

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20251220-81840e9b0-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20251220-81840e9b0-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from UXP: Issue #2873 - Don't let toolkit override colors of autofilled form elements. (17d95132) (41862e21c)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2861 - Part 1: Allow nsNPAPIPlugin::RunPluginOOP to be made false. (d2ab9697) (f4c8acc40)
- import from UXP: Issue #2861 - Part 2: Restore nsIPluginHost.isPluginOOP. (69ebe832) (b1ed368ee)
- import from UXP: Issue #2861 - Remove checks that forcibly enable or disable OOP. (e6d9cc01) (9e977be49)
- import from UXP: Issue #2875 - Cleanup: Remove leading whitespace in nsPluginHost.cpp. (372df4eb) (0dd28cf96)
- import from UXP: Issue #2861 - Remove Mac-specific ifdefs. (108523f5) (be5c04d98)
- import from UXP: Issue #2875 - Ensure OOP for plugins by default even if pref couldn't be found. (cdab710e) (f5d6b5e44)
- import from UXP: Issue #2861 - Bring back forced OOPP for GTK3. (dd61d079) (5e872b560)
- import from UXP: Issue #2861 - Part 2 Follow-up: nsIPluginHost.isPluginOOP should not always return true. (668296cf) (06ce41698)
- import from UXP: [devtools] Further improve "Copy as cURL" (b3c406bb) (7059944d3)
- import from UXP: [js] Append InstSize factor for secondary range veneers. (81bcafc3) (1f1743630)
- import from UXP: [DOM] Add stride check for canvas tex conversion from blob. (95e0feec) (f3ff4fb05)
- import from UXP: [devtools] Further improve "Copy as cURL" (68fa0f0d) (54292a252)
- import from UXP: [image] Use the TriggeringPrincipal if we have one, not the SystemPrincipal (4667b7f4) (2eae097a1)
- import from UXP: [NSS] Destroy certificate on error paths (01d89493) (b39f71e0f)
- ported from UXP: Issue Pale-Moon#2002 - Remove FreeBSD compat13x dependency on 15.x. Remove the 2 libutil OS_LIBS and dynamically load libutil.so instead. (2a2a85f8) (46bae686f)
- import from UXP: Issue #2865 - Implement `URL.canParse()` (12e5c5c3) (81840e9b0)