My Browser Builds (Part 5)

[NotHereToPlayGames]

2 hours ago, adata said:

Map is not loading https://odjazdowykrakow.pl/mapa

There is no map in Chrome v140 on Win10 either.  (for reference)

Edited yesterday at 05:50 PM by NotHereToPlayGames

[VistaLover]

6 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

8 hours ago, adata said:

Map is not loading https://odjazdowykrakow.pl/mapa

There is no map in Chrome v140

... But it loads OK in r3dfox-140.0.4: 

so this isn't, probably, a site issue  ... Do note that this service embeds "maps" from the 

https://openmaptiles.org/

https://www.openstreetmap.org

projects and for the maps to display correctly in a browser, it has to have WebGL (1 or 2) support enabled (and I remember from his 360EE days that NHTPG has a tendency to disable WebGL in his browsers  ) ...

If your NM28/St52 copy has WebGL support enabled (check in about:support -> graphics), then the most probable reason the Krakow map doesn't load is UXP's Javascript-related shortcomings  ; in a slightly older (not current) NM28 build, BrowserConsole reports a TypeError: 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

For the record, WebGL is (and always has been) *ENABLED* on my profiles.

MSFN Membership (at the time) "hype and propaganda" and "overly-paranoid" had it disabled in the uploaded/shared 360Chrome config.

Only to later be ENABLED because most "this web site doesn't work" were dang near always tied to WebGL.

ie, I eventually started IGNORING the "overly-paranoid".   

Edited 9 hours ago by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I can report that on my end (Serpent 52 and Chrome v140 on Win10) that various WebGL web sites *DO* work on my Intel i7-4770 but do *NOT* work (same exact Windows install, same exact browser profile) on my Intel Core2 Quad Q6700.

On my i7-4770, it *seems to be* tied to having five monitors and Serpent 52 has to be forced to use what about:support labels as #2 (by disabling #1 in Device Manager).

So HARDWARE *does* dictate whether the map will load or not!

 

 

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[VistaLover]

4 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

that various WebGL web sites *DO* work on my Intel i7-4770 but do *NOT* work (same exact Windows install, same exact browser profile) on my Intel Core2 Quad Q6700.

I fail to see how this is a CPU-related issue (but, please, someone correct me if you have concrete technical details that prove the opposite); I disabled WASM in my browser, but the Krakow map still loaded fine; unless each one of the cited CPUs (Intel i7-4770 vs Intel Core2 Quad Q6700) comes with an embedded iGPU, so it may well be an iGPU "issue" on your case; FTR, the laptop my screengrab was taken on comes with an Intel Core2 Duo T5250 @1.50GHz CPU (Merom), with a Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family iGPU, both pieces of junk by today's standards...

@adata has failed to provide any detail about their H/W, or even browser build, other than the info under their avatar that they're running XP SP2 x64; as I've hinted already, if at least WebGL 1 is functional in their UXP browser (and other WebGL-based sites load OK), this is likely a JS issue...

I no more use UXP as my main platform on Vista SP2 32-bit, so I'm not very likely to dig any deeper on this  ...

Edited 7 hours ago by VistaLover

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Agreed!

I shouldn't have tied to CPU but rather tied to GPU.

My bottom-line remains the same, same EXACT browser profile, both Serpent 52 and Chrome 140) *DOES* work on my "i7+gpu hardware" but does *NOT* work on my "core2+gpu" hardware.

I won't really be digging in deeper here either.  My *LIMITED* tests *reveal* (at least between two of my computers) that this is clearly HARDWARE-RELATED (and perhaps even with about:config "flags" as a WORKAROUND for said hardware).

And we would need details on the Original Poster's HARDWARE to go any further.

Edited 6 hours ago by NotHereToPlayGames

[AstroSkipper]

Personally, I don't expect modern websites that are full of multimedia or completely overloaded to still run in UXP browsers under old OSes like Windows XP, but I am happy about those that still do. All others are called up by me under Android 10 and above. That's why I'm extremely relaxed about the whole thing. The more websites running in New Moon or Serpent, the better, but if not, then that's just the way it is.