NoelC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) I'm using the 32 bit setting as well now, and yes, that means mostly things are already set up to work. But it's not the same thing as enabling actual 10 bits / color (30 bit color) processing in the driver, and I'm unclear just what that might affect. Right now, unless you have a high-end setup with a workstation class card and a display driver that offers 10 bits / color, all the colors you actually see by the time they get to your monitor are really only 24 bits in depth (8 bits each for red, green, and blue). You can verify this by looking for visible divisions in a dark gray gradient. Here's an example: http://Noel.ProDigitalSoftware.com/ForumPosts/GrayGradient.png Up to now, only drivers for expensive video cards, like the ATI FirePro, have had the 30 bit color feature, even though the better "gamer" hardware can actually do it (my Radeon 7850 advertised the feature in the sales blurbs, and I have a high-end monitor connected via DisplayPort in anticipation of being able to use 30 bit capability). The goal, in detail, is that when you look at a pure gray gradient such as in the above 16 bits/channel PNG file with a 30 bit color setup (e.g., in Photoshop) you won't be able to see the divisions between the 256 different grayscale levels (i.e., RGB levels 0,0,0, 1,1,1, 2,2,2, ... 255,255,255) since with 2 more bits per color there are 1024 of them. If I recall correctly, 30 bit processing is implemented deep in the GPU code using half-float values where the mantissa is 10 bits. Maybe it will just be as simple as enabling the setting and enjoying smoother gradients. I hope. -Noel Edited August 28, 2014 by NoelC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo76 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Good day!Still going to move to Windows 8.1 with the help of the store, but, of course, the installation program prompts me with version Update 1. So I want to ask, what can I do, because I feel that the project is no longer being developed, and the version AeroGlass 1.2.5 will fail .It works on Windows 8.1 with Update 1 and this month updates. There no need for bigmuscle to update it. He will only update it if microsoft releases updates that would disable the aeroglassThat is, there is no need to download the debug symbols - a tool by Bigmuscle works out of the box? Bigmuscle aero glass always worked straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzoku Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 hello,in the first,I'm a japanese,sorry poor english.I'm a very favorite this app,It seems my main PC occurred the error,doesn't work...My Main PC Spec is following.OS:Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry ProCPU:Intel Core i7 4790K@4.3GHzRAM:8GBVGA:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650other sub PC is normally worked. WIndows8.1=workedWIndows Server 2012 R2:workedWindows Embedded 8.1 Industry Pro:Doesn't work.. attachments a debug.log.help me. [2014-08-28 12:16:43][0x1D24:0x1D0C] Installing DWM hook...[2014-08-28 12:16:43][0x1D24:0x1D0C] DWM: 0x0000000000000000, error = 87[2014-08-28 12:16:43][0x1D24:0x1D0C] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-08-28 12:16:43][0x1D24:0x1D0C] RemoteDLLName: 0x0000000000000000[2014-08-28 12:16:43][0x1D24:0x1D0C] WriteProcessMemory: 0, error 6[2014-08-28 12:16:43][0x1D24:0x1D0C] LoadLibrary: 0x00007FFDBF3A79D0[2014-08-28 12:16:43][0x1D24:0x1D0C] CreateRemoteThread: 0x0000000000000000 error 6[2014-08-28 12:16:56][0x1848:0x17AC] Installing DWM hook...[2014-08-28 12:16:56][0x1848:0x17AC] DWM: 0x0000000000000000, error = 87[2014-08-28 12:16:56][0x1848:0x17AC] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-08-28 12:16:56][0x1848:0x17AC] RemoteDLLName: 0x0000000000000000[2014-08-28 12:16:56][0x1848:0x17AC] WriteProcessMemory: 0, error 6[2014-08-28 12:16:56][0x1848:0x17AC] LoadLibrary: 0x00007FFDBF3A79D0[2014-08-28 12:16:56][0x1848:0x17AC] CreateRemoteThread: 0x0000000000000000 error 6[2014-08-28 12:17:42][0x1B6C:0x1CCC] Installing DWM hook...[2014-08-28 12:17:42][0x1B6C:0x1CCC] DWM: 0x0000000000000000, error = 5[2014-08-28 12:17:42][0x1B6C:0x1CCC] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-08-28 12:17:42][0x1B6C:0x1CCC] RemoteDLLName: 0x0000000000000000[2014-08-28 12:17:42][0x1B6C:0x1CCC] WriteProcessMemory: 0, error 6[2014-08-28 12:17:42][0x1B6C:0x1CCC] LoadLibrary: 0x00007FFDBF3A79D0[2014-08-28 12:17:42][0x1B6C:0x1CCC] CreateRemoteThread: 0x0000000000000000 error 6[2014-08-28 12:20:46][0x1908:0x1AB0] Installing DWM hook...[2014-08-28 12:20:46][0x1908:0x1AB0] DWM: 0x0000000000000000, error = 87[2014-08-28 12:20:46][0x1908:0x1AB0] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-08-28 12:20:46][0x1908:0x1AB0] RemoteDLLName: 0x0000000000000000[2014-08-28 12:20:46][0x1908:0x1AB0] WriteProcessMemory: 0, error 6[2014-08-28 12:20:46][0x1908:0x1AB0] LoadLibrary: 0x00007FFDBF3A79D0[2014-08-28 12:20:46][0x1908:0x1AB0] CreateRemoteThread: 0x0000000000000000 error 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Why do you use an Embedded version on a High End PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzoku Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Why do you use an Embedded version on a High End PC? I was using the Windows 7 in the past,but,CPU upgrade time,occurred BSoD.OS Repair is present time difficult. so,I'm using the Embedded Version temporarily. Incidentally,Embedded Version is got by a Microsoft DreamSpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmuscle Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 NoelC: I must admit that I don't know the answer. But I think it should not cause any problem because Aero Glass works completely transparently regardless the used device driver/settings. So if DWM runs correctly, then Aero Glass should work correctly too. guzoku: it seems that DWM process does not running at your PC at all and thus Aero Glass cannot work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 guzoku: it seems that DWM process does not running at your PC at all and thus Aero Glass cannot work.It's strange, I thought that DWM was a "core" part of the GUI. Historically the whole idea of the "embedded" was that it is a "componentized" version of the main OS, so it all depended on which components were included at build time, but it seems to me that the good MS guys (how surprising ) have changed the approach and Windows 8/8.1 Embedded is seemingly a "rather normal" Windows 8/8.1 with "lockdowns" and "filters".Possibly re-deploying without the "ISKU-Embedded-Features"http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn609858(v=winembedded.82).aspxwill make the DWM process run normally, but at first sight it doesn't seem like any of the lockdown and filters would stop it. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Embedded has changed from 7 to 8. For the most part, installing the OS from the DVD isn't quite enough for Embedded 8 products, as certain things do not work properly. I would build a new image/configset using ICE, reinstall 8.1 Industry Pro with the new media, and see if it works any differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just curious: What does the Theme look like with the Embedded edition? Is it a valid Microsoft-signed theme that provides a "Basic"-like UI? -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascent Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Hi, I am using Aero Glass for 8.1 and have donated. The program no longer works for me, and I'm assuming it was a recent windows update. It seems to load ok, just provides no transparency: [2014-08-31 17:01:27][0x3C4:0xC88] Aero Glass for Win8.1 v1.2.5 x64 correctly loaded (C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll). I am unsure of the best way to achieve getting support for this. Edit: as dhjohns stated below, it was because the Laptop was on battery. Edited August 31, 2014 by nascent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhjohns Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Hi, I am using Aero Glass for 8.1 and have donated. The program no longer works for me, and I'm assuming it was a recent windows update. It seems to load ok, just provides no transparency: [2014-08-31 17:01:27][0x3C4:0xC88] Aero Glass for Win8.1 v1.2.5 x64 correctly loaded (C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll). I am unsure of the best way to achieve getting support for this. Are you on a laptop? Do you have it plugged in or are you running it on battery? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickygamer Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Is there a keyboard shortcut to disable glass loading, because windows update seems to have messed something up, and i can't get into my pc because dwm keeps crashing (flashing logon screen). please help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Is there a keyboard shortcut to disable glass loading, because windows update seems to have messed something up, and i can't get into my pc because dwm keeps crashing (flashing logon screen). please help!CTRL key?http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/170850-aero-glass-for-win81-125/?p=1067581 jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickygamer Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 jaclaz, that did not work. maby it's not aero glass causing the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmuscle Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Hold the CTRL key during whole booting procedure. It is not enough to press it continuously, it must be hit exactly when DLL is loaded into DWM.exe which happens some time between the bootlogo is hidden and login screen is displayed (thus it is better to hold it all the time :-)). If it does not help, then the problem is not caused by Aero Glass. If it help, then send us minidump file and debug.log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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