Formfiller Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Thurrot is truly the master when it comes to 180ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formfiller Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Development productivity: Windows 8 brought almost no improvements on the table for non-tablets, and Windows 9 looks to be just Windows 8 without metro, so basically: Windows 7 = Windows 9. They spent the last five years destroying and recreating Windows 7. Edited September 3, 2014 by Formfiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Thurrot is truly the master when it comes to 180ing.Or maybe he looked at it upside down jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TELVM Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Interesting: "Unofficial Windows XP 'SP4' in development" "A Greek Windows XP fan and developer is working on his own 'Service Pack' (SP) for XP, in the hope of extending the aging operating system's life ..." "XP, according to StatCounter, still has over 14% of the global desktop operating system share, which translates into a huge user base. Many XP users are running it on very old PCs, which are unable to cope with newer operating systems. There is perhaps a moral case for giving these millions of PCs more years of service, if they are still in use." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Interesting: "Unofficial Windows XP 'SP4' in development" "A Greek Windows XP fan and developer is working on his own 'Service Pack' (SP) for XP, in the hope of extending the aging operating system's life ..." "XP, according to StatCounter, still has over 14% of the global desktop operating system share, which translates into a huge user base. Many XP users are running it on very old PCs, which are unable to cope with newer operating systems. There is perhaps a moral case for giving these millions of PCs more years of service, if they are still in use."Are you joking? Or you wanted to post it under "news"? The source of that article is:http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 And guess which board harkaz is also a member of? http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/171171-introducing-unofficial-windows-xp-sp4/ jaclaz Edited September 3, 2014 by jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 "...extending the aging operating system's life"... It almost sounds like people think it just stopped running after April. Seems to me, in light of recent Windows Update machinations for, ahem, other operating systems, actually NOT getting ongoing support from Microsoft could be a positive thing... -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TELVM Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Are you joking? IMHO both the airing of Harkaz's work and the reading of that last paragraph are interesting. XP still has almost double the market share than the combined Tiles aberrations: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 IMHO both the airing of Harkaz's work and the reading of that last paragraph are interesting. XP still has almost double the market share than the combined Tiles aberrations: Sure Harkaz's contributions are noteworthy, interesting and useful :, the comment was only about the non-news nature of those "news" for MSFN members. I would add - as a side note - that part of the (unfortunate) decline of Windows XP may be due (besides the scare-mongering tactics by MS and friends) to "physiologic" reasons. I mean, a large part of the XP installed base is most probably "OEM" and "pre-installed" on "portables" (laptop and notebooks) manufactured before 2009 (the "year of 7") and those kind of devices tend to age (due to shock, wear and what not) faster than desktops and they rarely are as repairable or as upgradable as desktops. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 "...extending the aging operating system's life"... It almost sounds like people think it just stopped running after April. Speaking with some norms IRL (none of whome were named Norm, ironically) actually had that in their head. I was asked many times from friends and family members if they had to buy a new computer because their XP would stop working. I blame the FUD being spewed from the television news stations giving this impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 In the middle of an otherwise sober discussion of Microsoft's announcement of layoffs in Windows Weekly #372, there was this funny exchange (starts at about 18:25): Paul: ...These people were going to get laid off one way or another, unfortunately the Nokia part of it. Leo: Some Wag said on Twitter, I hope all the people who had Windows 8.1 on their job description got laid off. Mary Jo: Oh man. Leo: That did not happen, right? Mary Jo: Well there were people who were laid off from the Windows org we know. They laid off quite a few testers. I don’t know how many total but that was a pretty big chunk of people. Paul: They had testers? No I am just kidding. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 And they are attacked from the other side by smarthones which grow larger... Good point (sorry I missed it before). There's also that angle of attack on tablets. --Jorge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Development productivity: Windows 8 brought almost no improvements on the table for non-tablets, and Windows 9 looks to be just Windows 8 without metro, so basically: Windows 7 = Windows 9. They spent the last five years destroying and recreating Windows 7. That's just about the whole story. It's like going on a road trip and suddenly realizing that you took a wrong turn somewhere and have spent the last two hours driving in the wrong direction, and then having to turn around and make it up. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Further analysis of Win8.1's market share, pointing to another misconceived idea by MSFT: Latest usage shares show slow adoption of Windows 8.1 Apple has clearly succeeded in one task where Microsoft has stumbled. Roughly 70 percent of all Mac owners are running OS X 10.9 Mavericks, the most recent release. In contrast, Microsoft has not been successful in convincing the same high percentage of Windows 8 users to upgrade to Windows 8.1, despite the vast improvements in the newer release. Every PC with Windows 8 installed is eligible for the free Windows 8.1 update, which was released nearly a year ago. Yet both firms report nearly identical numbers: some 47 percent of the web traffic counted in August from Windows 8.x PCs came from machines whose owners had not installed the update. Both upgrades are free. So why have Apple users flocked to the latest OS X while Windows 8 users haven’t adopted Windows 8.1 in large numbers? The explanation is simple: Apple has made it easy for OS X users to find and install the upgrade, while Microsoft has not. In addition, Mac owners are far more likely to visit the online App Store and find the latest version, whereas PC owners who primarily use the desktop are unlikely to even know that the Windows Store exists. There is irony in this, as Microsoft made the 8.1 upgrade available only from the Windows Store, no doubt to drum up traffic to the store. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That's just about the whole story. It's like going on a road trip and suddenly realizing that you took a wrong turn somewhere and have spent the last two hours driving in the wrong direction, and then having to turn around and make it up. --JorgeA Good analogy. It fits nicely with something I'm fond of saying: that Microsoft needs to "get back on the straight and narrow". I imagined Microsoft leadership driving down, say, Route 66 in the southwest US, then suddenly, without good reason, just turning off the road and driving straight into the desert, claiming they were "reimagining" where the road goes. -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That's just about the whole story. It's like going on a road trip and suddenly realizing that you took a wrong turn somewhere and have spent the last two hours driving in the wrong direction, and then having to turn around and make it up. Not really-really, but almost. It's like going on a road trip and suddenly realizing that you took a wrong turn somewhere and have spent the last two hours driving in the wrong direction, and then having to turn around and make it up, after your wife that is sitting besides you and the kids that are in the backseats have been telling you that over and over since exactly two hours. To the shame of having chosen the wrong turn you have to add to it the awareness that, besides having done something stupid, you are also dangerously stubborn, and you have NO excuses as you were actually told you were going in the wrong direction. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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