Mim0 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Posted March 5, 2010 Also i think you could remove this:missing (S): HF\WindowsXP-KB960225-x86-PTB.EXE (MS09-007: SChannel (Secure Channel))as this check in my opinion is not need 'cause it's replaced, only the new one sould be checked.What ist the new one?As far as I know KB960225 can be replaced by KB968389. If KB968389 is existing in HF the file-checker will not report KB960225 as missing.THX for the list.Mimo
theruan Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) Also i think you could remove this:missing (S): HF\WindowsXP-KB960225-x86-PTB.EXE (MS09-007: SChannel (Secure Channel))as this check in my opinion is not need 'cause it's replaced, only the new one sould be checked.What ist the new one?As far as I know KB960225 can be replaced by KB968389. If KB968389 is existing in HF the file-checker will not report KB960225 as missing.THX for the list.MimoExactly, but the file checker doesn't need to search for the older one, just the new one.In my opinion it should just say that KB968389 is missing or not found. And if the older one is present say it's replaced by KB968389. Just that, as there is no need to someone download something if it's already old.I'm sayind this because in the speed this project is going on, in two or three months the checks will be to many, lol.Also i was thinking about to help with other updates, like legit check, optional updates like ever needed addons flash for firefox and others, i'm just thinking yet where i could put the files.But of course if there interest on that.About the list if you want i could try to verify the ENU one 'cause they might have many more than in my language, i will probably do that next week or the other.Do someone know what's the command line to extract files from the hotfixes that have .sfx inside seen with normal winrar or 7z ? It would make my life easier to verify the files on hotfixshare. Edited March 5, 2010 by theruan
Mim0 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) Exactly, but the file checker doesn't need to search for the older one, just the new one.In my opinion it should just say that KB968389 is missing or not found. After some discussions with others I tried to suit everybody with INI-options what shall be listed. If you set ADVISORIES=1 (or empty because 1 is default) then KB968389 will be listed as missing if it not present in HF.And if the older one is present say it's replaced by KB968389.Independend from INI-settings:- KB960225 will be reported as obsolete when both (KB960225 and KB968389) are present. - KB960225 will not reported as missing if KB968389 is present Edited March 5, 2010 by Mim0
tommyp Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) theruan - You need to open a command window and use the filename with a /X switch to unpack each hotfix. I have a VERY STRONG feeling that the hotfixes you list are either not needed or not supported. Tell us, when you load windows using mimo's list and hfslip, do all of those hotfixes you list come up to be installed? If not, then you don't need them. Another thing you should check is whether or not the hotfix list you proposed has any superceded any other hotfixes. mimo - don't pull your hair out incorporating theruan's hotfix list. Let theruan post his results. This same non-essential hotfix situation came up a number of times several years back. The end story was always the same. The OP would eventaully say that the files weren't needed after all. Edited March 5, 2010 by tommyp
Martin H Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 No, the hotfixes dosen't show up on WU/MU, as they are hotfixes and not updates and comes from xable' site: www.thehotfixshare.net (hotfixes only!).As a sidepoint, i've never understood why HFSLIP insists(like nLite) on using the QFE branch of the updates...Here's what msft states in each hotfix kb article:However, this hotfix is intended to correct only the problem that is described in this article. Apply this hotfix only to systems that are experiencing this specific problem. This hotfix might receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not severely affected by this problem, we recommend that you wait for the next software update that contains this hotfix.Also in msft's own hotfix explenation:Hotfixes are distributed by Microsoft Product Support Services to address a specific customer situation. Hotfixes are produced quickly to provide immediate assistance to specific Microsoft customers. Therefore, hotfixes may not be tested as thoroughly as security updates, critical updates, updates, update rollups, drivers, and feature packs. Microsoft maintains different development environments to isolate security updates, critical updates, updates, update rollups, drivers, and feature packs from hotfixes and the ongoing development work that is being performed by Microsoft for subsequent service packs. This process minimizes the risk for customers by allowing them to install only fixes that address widespread critical issues, such as security vulnerabilities, and that do not include hotfix files.HFSLIP then incorporates those hotfix fixes for each slipped file in the sourcess folder:Files in the <cardinal point>QFE folders are cumulative and contain both the GDR-class fix and all previous hotfixes that affect the included binaries.Anyway, just my 2 cents... And sorry for off-topic'nes..
Mim0 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Posted March 5, 2010 New High-Priority Update (at least for EU-contries):2010-03-05- Added: KB976002 (Browser-choice for EU-countries)
tfoutfou Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) the KB976002 doesn't fix anything , it's just a f***ing popup that force you to choose a browser if you don't choose Internet Explorer it doesn't uninstall it , there is no way to uninstall IE (it's integrated to deep in the system)if you choose another browser , it's just downloading the installer as a regular executable installer as a french user (european) i would recommand to don't slipstream this i recommand to uncheck it in windows update and chose something called "never remind me about this update"this update have been made "high priority" only for legal decision (to leave the choice to the final user)but it dont really leave the choice since it don't uninstall Internet Explorerps : is my english correct ? not really sure ! Edited March 8, 2010 by tfoutfou
Mim0 Posted March 8, 2010 Author Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) ps : is my english correct ? not really sure !I'm with you. For me, it's not the only one I don't integrate! But I want to keep the list complete and I don't want to rate an update. For users who don't wanna see this by the file-checker, put this in the INI (an empty IGNORE-sections should already exists in the INI):+IGNOREH|KB976002- Edited March 8, 2010 by Mim0
tfoutfou Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 ok i understand your point -> having a big nice list that include ALL the updateI'm with you. For me, it's not the only one I don't integrate! But I want to keep the list complete and I don't want to rate an update. what are the update you don't integrate ?
Mim0 Posted March 8, 2010 Author Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) what are the update you don't integrate ?I integrate all except for WU/MU and these files (part of my ini):-------------------------------------------------! Expected updates to be ignored! To make it more consistent the format is! identical to the other sections, but only! the file (column 2) is used. In column 3 you! should add your own remarks (but do not use! pipe-characters and backspaces).! For col. 2 You can also use regular-expressions! (see help for FINDSTR). When using regular-! expressions consider that the backslash is the! escape-character. It has to be replaced by a! dot. When possible use just the KB-number! (including 'KB').-------------------------------------------------+IGNOREO|HF\windows-kb890830-v3.4.exe|Malicious Software Removal Tool v3.4O|HF\KB961742-v3.exe|Enable RemoteApp to XP SP3 VMs on a Windows 7 hostO|HFSVCPACK\WindowsXP-KB967715-x86.reg|Disable Autorun for all drive-typesO|HFGUIRUNONCE\UPHClean-Setup.msi|User Profile Hive Cleanup Service 1.6dO|HFGUIRUNONCE\messenger.msi|Windows Messenger 5.1| | \ | |Ensure that Windows Messenger 5.1 is the current version 5.1.0.715O|HF\WindowsRightsManagementServicesSP2-KB979099-Client-x86-!ln979099!.exe|Rights Management Services Client with SP2H|HFSVCPACK_SW1\windowsxp-kb976002-v5-x86-enu.exe|Browser-choice for EU-countries-Only the KB-No in col 2 (from my prev. example) is not working (but it should work. why isn't it working? ) Edited March 8, 2010 by Mim0
Mim0 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 MIMo, MRT v3.5 released today!Yes. Patch-day is a normal update-day. Later a sec-bulletin for XP will also be available.
Mim0 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 2010-03-09- Added: Malicious Software Removal Tool 3.5- Added: MS10-016: Movie Maker (KB975561)- Added: Protocol negotiation for RPC over HTTP Authentication (KB974841)- Removed: Malicious Software Removal Tool 3.4
theruan Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) "i have found at least 20 updates in there that are needed in the update process."Needed??? Hotfixes are fixes for non-widespread, non-critical issues, which is developed fast and hasen't gone through as much regression-testing as the normal updates...Also, since HFSLIP allready is using the QFE branch of the updates, then the files in the updates allready include the fixes from the hotfixes(only for the included files in the updates that is...)Sorry, i may have used a worng word for that, i'm brazilian, my english isn't that good, lol.A good word would be as optional updates, and also, you that obviously knows more about updates Tommyp could take a better look on them.In HF folder:.........All of this ones were taken from thehotfixshare, i know that may be not all of them are available in every language and so far will sometimes be hard to acquire them, but they still are hotfixes that could or not be added to the list.They are optional, and still have to check if they are not replaced already.What i can say for sure is that i have tried using them with nlite to see if any problems related to older updates beeing used and so far it showed me only five(or something like that) updates that were replaced that i already removed from my list.Also i think you could remove this:missing (S): HF\WindowsXP-KB960225-x86-PTB.EXE (MS09-007: SChannel (Secure Channel))as this check in my opinion is not need 'cause it's replaced, only the new one sould be checked.ThanksTheRuanOk guys, new list checked and re-checked everything twice.The versions are organized in this way: KB - files - original version - update version.I have removed "5.1.2600." from the updates that have only 4 digits in versions.WindowsXP-KB944898-x86-PTB.EXEcscdll.dll 5512 5586mrxsmb.sys 5911 5586WindowsXP-KB945436-x86-PTB.EXEusbccgp.sys 5512 5585WindowsXP-KB946554-x86-PTB.EXEcimwin32.dll 5512 5591WindowsXP-KB946775-x86-PTB.EXEndiswan.sys 5512 5584WindowsXP-KB948046-v2-x86-PTB.EXE >>>>>>>> NOT NEEDED(ONLY COULD CHECK THIS THIS FILES ON THE UPDATE OTHERS DON'T HAVE VERSION INFO)pcl4res.dll 0.3.5479.0 0.3.5479.0pcl5eres.dll 0.3.5479.0 0.3.5479.0pcl5ures.dll 0.3.5479.0 0.3.5479.0pclxl.dll 0.3.5479.0 0.3.5479.0unidrv.dll 0.3.6002.22136 0.3.6001.22116unidrvui.dll 0.3.6002.22136 0.3.6001.22116unires.dll 0.3.6002.22136 0.3.6001.22116WindowsXP-KB948101-v3-x86-PTB.EXEusbohci.sys 5512 5550WindowsXP-KB948277-x86-PTB.EXElicdll.dll 5512 5587msgina.dll 5512 5587winlogon.exe 5512 5587WindowsXP-KB948720-x86-PTB.EXEsetupapi.dll 5512 5603WindowsXP-KB949033-x86-PTB.EXEusbehci.sys 5512 5587WindowsXP-KB949127-v2-x86-PTB.EXEwzcsvc.dll 5512 5585WindowsXP-KB949764-x86-PTB.EXEusbport.sys 5512 5551WindowsXP-KB949900-x86-PTB.EXEshimeng.dll 5512 5555WindowsXP-KB950162-x86-PTB.exe >>>> Not NeededWindowsXP-KB950312-x86-PTB.EXEwinsrv.dll 5512 5585>>>> WindowsXP-KB950565-x86-PTB.EXE >>>> Not NeededWindowsXP-KB950616-x86-PTB.EXEportcls.sys 5512 5566WindowsXP-KB950982-x86-PTB.EXEodbc32.dll 3.525.1132.0 3.525.3000.0odbccp32.dll 3.525.1132.0 3.525.3000.0WindowsXP-KB951312-x86-PTB.EXE >>>>>>> NOT SUREWeird this found two files here:NTDLL.DLL in i386 folder 5755 5594 NTDLL.DLL in i386\system32 5512 5594WindowsXP-KB951347-x86-PTB.EXEfxscomex.dll 5.2.2600.5512 5588WindowsXP-KB951624-x86-PTB.EXEhnetcfg.dll 5512 5589ipnathlp.dll 5584 5589WindowsXP-KB951709-x86-PTB.EXEdisk.sys 5512 5597WindowsXP-KB951822-v2-x86-PTB.EXEalpsres.dll 0.3.1281.0 0.3.1282.0WindowsXP-KB951937-v2-x86-PTB.EXE >>>>> NOT NEEDEDmsadce.dll 2.81.3010.0 2.81.3001.0WindowsXP-KB952079-v2-x86-PTB.EXEntfs.sys 5512 5585WindowsXP-KB952117-v2-x86-PTB.EXEndis.sys 5512 5588ndiswan.sys 5512 5588WindowsXP-KB953028-x86-PTB.EXEd3d9.dll 5.3.2600.5512 5.3.2600.5601WindowsXP-KB817688-x86-PTB.EXEntbackup.exe 5512 5808WindowsXP-KB889320-v2-x86-PTB.EXEbrowser.dll 5512 5574WindowsXP-KB932521-x86-PTB.EXE >>>>>> NoT NEEDEDrastls.dll 5886 5586WindowsXP-KB940648-x86-PTB.EXEmup.sys 5512 5589 <<<<<< NEEDED <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<wkssvc.dll 5826 5589 <<<<<<< NOT NEEDEDWindowsXP-KB943326-x86-PTB.EXE <<<< NOT NEEDEDwin32k.sys 5863 5612WindowsXP-KB974266.exe(RUNONCE UPDATE TYPE)gpprefcl.dll 5.2.3790.4568 5.2.3790.4569This ones i could'nt get their version>>polbase.mof >>polpro.mof>>polproc.mof>>polprocl.mfl>>polprocl.mof>>polprou.mof>>spupdsvc.exeI agree this aren't exactly essential updates, i do use them because i like to be on the end point of updates, what could be done is to add another category like HOTFIXES, or if you don't think they are usefull to trash list, shaushaushau.There are some updates that aren't needed, i removed in the beginning until i have realized that someone else could use to see the not needed aswell.Sorry to take so long but i wasn't home until yesterday.Thanks Edited March 10, 2010 by theruan
Mim0 Posted March 10, 2010 Author Posted March 10, 2010 THX for this nice work.I agree this aren't exactly essential updates, i do use them because i like to be on the end point of updatesThat's what I have also in mind what could be done is to add another category like HOTFIXESThere is already a HOTFIXES-ini-setting:2010-02-10- Fixed: There was a typo at KB977377 (! instead of |)- Added: Some obsolete updates- Added: INI-setting HOTFIXES to disable/enable list missing hotfixes- Added: KB961451, Hotfix: MDAC (identity-attribute in combination with ADO)- Added: KB974905, Hotfix: MBR file or a live stream with more than 32 streamsRegarding new INI-settings, the easiest way is to let hfslipfc create a new ini and see whats new. Hotfixes are disabled by default. And so it's no risk to include these additional hotfixes in the file-checker.Now I'm thinking about my update-list. Probably it's a little bit confusing to have so much hotfixes inside. Do I make two lists? (one with hotfixes, another w/o hotfixes). Hmm...
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