Steven W

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I installed Windows 98 SE on a friends PC, was using IE and viewing videos on pages that use the Windows Media plug-in to embed WMP 9 on the page...long story short something was wrong with the plug-in sometimes it would work, sometimes it wouldn't. I decided to reinstall WMP, not even thinking about having KernelEx installed. I didn't uninstall the old version just reinstalled over it. During the "re-installation", an error came up about kex.exe. I wish I had payed a bit more attention. Anyway, it fixed the errors. All seems to work fine. I'm kind of curious and also think someone may want to look into this. Does this trick the installer into thinking I'm running XP -- attempting to installing the NT (whatever differences that entails) version of the program? Would I, or anyone else for that matter, have problems if they did not reinstall over an existing installation? Can whatever is causing the message be fixed? Would there be any advantage in installing WMP 9 this way (assuming there are differences)?

I have both versions (1.1 and 2) installed on my system. They do take up quite a bit of space, but I've never experienced and slow down because of them. The only thing that requires version 2 that I have on the system is the ODF-converter-integrator, used to convert Office 2007 (OOXML) files to OpenDocument which can then be viewed with OpenOffice.org. Others that don't want all the bloat are using the OOXML viewer in conjuction with KernelEx or maybe some version of Go-OO.org. I honestly believe that the converter-integrator provides the best solution. As far as version 1.1 the only thing that I use requiring it is CD burner XP pro version 3.0.116, simply CD burning software. This could obviously be easily replaced. In my opinion if you have way more than enough space to blow, you may as well install them. Again, I've not seen any drag on performance.

Sorry...SNES9X works fine, was a problem on my end! Am Still curious if there is anyway to get the necessary files from the Microsoft reader (linked to on http://tihiy.ahanix.org/RPUpdates.html) without installing the whole program? Thanks.

I am assuming you're getting this with only one document? Sounds like the converter pooped out somewhere with that particular document. Bear in mind that the ODF Converter Integrator is really just a GUI for the ODF Translator CommandLine, so I would make sure that you have the latest version of that in the folder that the Converter Integrator is installed in and try it again. If it still poops out report it to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter/support The latest version of the commandline tools is available here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-conver...%20CommandLine/ You'll have to extract the contents of the file you download in the same folder that the Converter Integrator is installed in.

I too recommend Audacity however, as an alternate, the commercial Cool Edit 96 works well, I think you're limited to the number of edits you can do in a session without a serial, that's really not that big of a deal just save close reopen and edit again if you don't have a serial.

I may have lied about JODconverter. It doesn't seem to support OOXML. I may be mistaken but it looks as though it uses OpenOffice.org's conversion abilities....I'm asking myself what the point of it is.

You're welcome for the link. It's offers the best conversion I've seen too. I've actually seen this do a better job than Microsoft's own Compatibility Pack.

I just ran across something else that looks promising to throw into the mix here, at least for OpenOffice.org users: JODConverter http://www.artofsolving.com/opensource/jodconverter. Doesn't exactly look like a really user friendly GUI-based program, but it certainly claims to be able to handle and convert many formats. according to the requirements: To use JODConverter you need: •A Java runtime environment version 1.4 or higher •OpenOffice.org v2.0.3 or higher; the latest stable version is usually recommended. (StarOffice 8, NeoOffice being based on OpenOffice.org should also work.) •Any operating system for which Java and OpenOffice.org are available (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris, FreeBSD, etc.) For use as a web application / web service you will also need: •A Servlet 2.3 container such as Apache Tomcat v4.1 or higher. (The jodconverter-tomcat package includes Tomcat.) In any case OpenOffice.org must be running as a service for JODConverter to work. I would assuming that would include 98.

If you already have MS's DotNet Framework 2.0 installed (or have the space to install).... You can use the ODF Converter Integrator: http://katana.oooninja.com/f/software/odf-...3-installer.exe And either OpenOffice.org 2.4.3 (Save as Microsoft Office DOC file): http://download.openoffice.org/2.4.3/index.html or if your using at least Office 2000, install Sun's ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/

Aire Freshener - Nature sounds player, CD player, MIDI windchimes, and Quote of the day. Discontinued charityware. I recommend not allowing it to associate with audio CDs and not letting it start up when Windows starts. http://www.peterhirschberg.com/dl/aire20setup.exe There's other software on this page but, I haven't tested anything other than Aire Freshener http://www.peterhirschberg.com/mysoftware.html For those of you that have really decent graphics cards and reletively decent processors: http://www.reallyslick.com/ These are OpenGL screensavers...."Skyrocket" rules!

Version 0.2.3 works natively and the command prompt doesn't stay blank anymore. If anyone else cares.

Thanks for the reply M()zart. I prefer the integrator because it opens thing directly in OpenOffice.org. BTW it's download is only around 3.26 MB, (of course the DotNet Framework is huge). I have been in touch with the author of the integrator. I believe that the entire reason the some versions did not work with 98/ME is because he moved from Python 2.5 to 2.6. He compiled the latest version of the integrator with Python 2.5, so it should work. Not near my 98 PC right now, could someone else test and let me know if it work without KernelEx? http://katana.oooninja.com/f/software/odf-...3-installer.exe I also feel obliged to explain, I have no aversion to KernelEx personally. I have an older friend with an old PC running 98SE. I don't won't to bother him with some of it's current quirks, like have to remove it to install certain software, etc. I'm sure as KernelEx progresses these issues will begin to vanish.

I hate that I keep replying to myself but, I've got some good news. Version 0.2.0 of the integrator works natively in Win98. (Requires the DotNet Framework 2.0) http://katana.oooninja.com/f/software/odf-...0-installer.exe I also extracted the files from the latest command-line tool in the converter's install folder. http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourcef...ol.3.0.5246.zip. Only a couple of minor gripes: A blank command prompt pops open and stays blank until the converting is done and then closes. Office 2007 templates are supported but, they don't get converted to ODF templates, I had a .dotx file converted to .odt (should have been .ott) -- I can't complain too much at least it opened and rendered properly.

Had this problem years ago, can't remember if it was with Win98 or Win95. I remember replacing dispex.dll with the version that came with IE's installation. Probably used regsvr.exe to unregester and re-register. May have replaced other files too. Did solve the problem, wish I could remember more.

I did test the ODF Translator CommandLine Tool on my old Win98 Box. It seems to work okay. I could drag OOXML files (docx, pptx, xlsx, etc.) to the OdfConverter.exe and it would output OpenDocument files (odt, ods, odp, etc). They rendered fine even in the old version of OOo (2.0.4) that is installed on that machine. I don't have KernelEx installed on that machine. I'm assuming that it is natively compatible. Could someone generate some code that works with the CommandLine Tool that would convert OOXML files to OpenDocument when the are double clicked and the open the outputted files in whatever the end user has associated with OpenDocument files? I think you'd have to know all the extensions for OOXML and templates. One thing I did notice about the integrator that works with XP is that it outputs files in the same directory as the file that it's converting. I think outputting the file in a temp directory would be better -- What happens when someone tries to double-click a file that's on a CD? It may also worth noting that the CommandLine tool also works in reverse. It will convert OpenDocument files to OOXML. I doubt many would want that option as most Office suites can save in the old MS Office binary formats but, maybe??? I will try working on this myself but, I doubt that I have the skills.

Thought just occurred to me...maybe I'm asking the wrong question. Does just the command line tool work in Win98. Simple test, just drag an office 2007 file on to it. See if it pops open and outputs a Opendocument file. Perhaps the glue that is the integrator could be written another way. Link to to command line tool: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=266170

Trust me Sfor, Go-OO 2.4 does not support OOXML this well. I was sincerely hoping this would run natively on Win98. Oh for test documents...just google, some suggestions... test.docx, resume.docx, presentation.pptx, or spreadsheet.xlsx and I usually add + "index of" ....make sure you're not getting a PDF, google is good for indicating that. Thanks for the info.

I have been testing this on my friend's XP computer. I downloaded the odf-converter-integrator and also got the latest command line tool: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=266170 I extracted the files from the command line tool to the ODF converter's installation folder. This (combined with OOo 2.4.2) is actually doing a better job of rendering the Office 2007 files that I've tested than MS Office 2000 with the compatibility pack from MS! Could someone let me/us know if this works on Win98?

I was reading under the topic "Microsoft Office 2007 Compatibility Pack" and noted that a memer ,jds, is using the ODFConverter command line OpenXML/ODF translator tool. I got curious if anyone packaged that to work with OOo. Sure enough: http://katana.oooninja.com/w/odf-converter-integrator It has versions for Windows and Linux and goes beyond OOo: I see in the package it has a file called "w9xpopen.exe" assuming it will work with win98/ME..would someone please confirm? ***Requires the dotnetframework 2.0***: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...dd-aab15c5e04f5

Are you certain that you've pointed the dialog that comes up to the CD? Check the dialog box it may have the wrong drive listed. If you do have the proper drive, your CD is probably corrupted (scratched or damaged). You could borrow someone else's or possibly buy one from ebay.

Problemchyld, you said that you need WMP 9 for the DRM. I'm wondering if the DRM components and codecs could be installed without the player. Winamp seems to be able to handle DRM'd files, at least from the drive, on my PC. Are there any other players that would be "lite" enough that can take advantage of these components? A little voice is telling me MDGX's expertise might come in handy.

Could you provide a link to an example?

I'm not absolutely certain this would be of any help to you: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloa...rdclientdl.mspx

Geez. Sounds fun. I have a couple of thoughts. When I encounter explorer.exe crashing when Windows starts, I end up switching the shell to progman and reinstall IE from a CDROM (either the version on the system or the latest version). This usually corrects that issue. I've never tried to install it in Safe Mode, but who knows, this might work. There's a lot of DLLs tied up in IE. If it doesn't work in safe-mode, you could try putting a shortcut to IE's setup program in the startup folder usually located at C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup then try rebooting. Since you can get explorer running in safe-mode that should be relatively simple. Another thought is to try extracting msgsvr32.dll and msgsvr32.exe and replacing the ones on the drive already. I wish you luck!