Dave-H

Working great here, with all plugins and no crashes! I really hope they put in an option to disable the plugin wrapper when they reintroduce it, but I'm not holding my breath.

The link's also at the bottom of all PROBLEMCHYLD's posts, but there doesn't seem to be anything available to download at the moment.

Hurrah, I will be able to use Opera plugins on Windows 98 again! I really hope that even when they re-introduce it, as they inevitably will, there will be an option to switch it off or on.

IIRC if you add "DisableLog=0" into the [options] section of your MSDOS.SYS file you will always log on every boot, without having to enable it manually every time.

soporific's Autopatcher produces very comprehensive logs of its actions, and that is based completely on batch files of course.

I also told you some time ago that if videos were working on YouTube it was almost certainly html5 at work, not Flash. Anyway, I haven't tried this, but one way around the QuickTime plugin problem might be to set Opera to open the videos in the QuickTime Player, rather than using the plugin. Try putting this into handlers.ini in pace of your present [video/quicktime] section- [video/quicktime] Type=Viewer Action=3 Application=C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QuickTimePlayer.exe Application Description= Web handler Plugin Path=C:\Program Files\QuickTime\Plugins\npqtplugin.dll Plugin Name=QuickTime Plug-in 7.7.2 Plugin Description=The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the <A HREF=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/>QuickTime</A> Web site. Save To Folder= Extension=qt,mov,mqv Flags=128 That's what is written into my file if I set it up to open QT files in the player on XP. Change the paths if you need to for your system of course. You never know, it might work!

I suspect that the reason the plugin information was missing on your installation but not on mine is because I have a dual boot system, and use the same installation of Opera on Windows XP as I do on Windows 98SE. I think that the plugin wrapper program, which works on XP of course, had scanned for plugins when I was using Opera on XP and had written the necessary information into the ini file. As you have only used Opera on 98, where the plugin wrapper program won't run, you never had that information written into the files. I suspect that things like the QuickTime plugins will never run on Opera 12 under 98 because they now need the plugin wrapper program to be detected and loaded. Even though it all works fine on XP, when I run Opera on 98 I get no plugin information as the wrapper program isn't running. It would be good if Opera could put in an option to revert to the previous behaviour of Opera 11, which didn't need the wrapper program, especially as many people have complained about its excessive resource usage, but they show no sign of doing that I'm afraid.

Yes, that's probably it. Off topic, but just to mention that Rudolph Loew says there is no point in upgrading from Patchmem 7.0 to 7.1, as functionally they are identical. Incidentally, my memory spec in post #2 says - Memory: 4 GiB (4x 1 GiB DIMMs; 3583 MiB available to Win 98SE); 3071 MiB available for Win 98SE The memory available to 98SE is there twice with different amounts quoted. Is that a mistake or is it of some significance?

My "Add" button does bring up the dialogue box, but when you change things and press "OK" nothing happens. However if you exit using the "x" in the top right corner, and then go into it again, the changes appear to have been saved! Very strange behaviour. The information in the downloads tab of the Opera advanced preferences seems to now be saved in a file called "handlers.ini" in the user's profile folder. My file has this entry for QuickTime files - [video/quicktime] Type=Viewer Action=6 Application= Application Description= Web handler Plugin Path Plugin Name Plugin Description Save To Folder= Extension=qt,mov,mqv Flags=128 I haven't had a chance to experiment with editing it, but if you do have a go I'd be interested in the results.

Just also noticed that my specs say I'm running PatchMem version 6.0. I'm actually now running version 7.0. I've now realised there is a 7.1 so I've contacted Rudolph Loew about an update. Interesting to see that loblo's second machine is using the same graphics card and driver that I am, but with the AGP aperture set to 64 MB. If I do that with my system Windows 98 won't load the desktop and just sits permanently on a flashing cursor after the splash screen. I guess that's probably down to being a different motherboard, or possibly because he's running ME not 98SE.

No offence meant, but I'm sorry I don't consider my observations to be "sloppy error reporting"! I will certainly investigate Kexstubs as it looks very interesting anyway, but as loblo says I'm not holding out much hope that it will do anything for this specific problem.

Is there no "Add" button on the Opera preferences>advanced>downloads dialogue? If you're seeing Flash apparently work on YouTube it's probably using HTML5 mode, which it does on my system too. I guess this doesn't use the Opera plugin helper.

The QuickTime mime type is listed under the extensions "qt,mov,mqv". It's "video/quicktime". I have had no luck getting the QuickTime plugin to work in Opera 12 under Windows 98. The fact that that the new plugin helper program crashes because of missing dependences in user.exe seems to be insurmountable unless KernelEx can be updated to add the missing dependences. Sadly it doesn't look as if this is going to happen.

Happy Birthday PROBLEMCHYLD!

My system details need a bit of an update now too! I decided to change my graphics card back to the nVidia one I tried out some time ago, as I'm now running more demanding applications on the XP side of the system. The card is now a XFX branded nVidia GeForce 7950GT AGP card with 512 MB of memory on-board. Works fine with the unofficial tweaked nVidia Display Driver 82.69 at 1920 x 1080 (I've finally bought a 21st century monitor!) The AGP aperture is now set to 128 MB (the only configuration that works with the card IIRC). I now have only (!) 3071 MB available to Win 98SE. I'm putting up with the bad 98 shutdown caused by the card, in every other respect the system is running beautifully! Cheers, Dave.

Brilliant! Glad you got it sorted.

Hi Joe! I'd almost forgotten about this! Did you use Driver Cleaner to completely wipe all traces of the 4.06 driver? If not, uninstall the driver you've got loaded, clean the system with Driver Cleaner, and try reinstalling version 4.00 again. I think that's what eventually worked for me. Good luck! Cheers, Dave.

If it's part of Visual Studio, not Windows, I wouldn't have thought it should be in the Service Pack at all!

I have it on my machine, in the Windows 98 system folder (version 6.0.0.8424) and in the XP Internet Explorer folder (version 9.0.30729.1) and in Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug (version 7.0.9466.0). It appears to be part of a Microsoft Visual Studio debugger.

If it were possible to get the opera_plugin_wrapper.exe in Opera 12 to run without crashing on Windows 98 I for one would be eternally grateful!

None taken PROBLEMCHYLD. I think KEx is a worthwhile tool if you want to keep some things working on 98, as long as you're aware of its limitations. Whether it should be included in the pack is completely up to you.

Quite agree. I've been using KernelEx for ages, and never had a moment's problem with it. It enables me to run Opera and Java 6 and Flash 10. Whether its files should be included in a future version of the service pack is debatable. I would say not. I certainly would have no problem with KernelEx being included as an optional extra install though.

Updated to Opera 12.00 today, and can confirm the problems. The Opera plugin wrapper program crashes when run, with the error in user.exe. If the error is dismissed and the plugin wrapper executable is closed down, Opera then works reasonably well, but with no plugin support of course. YouTube videos still play, using HTML5. Things like QuickTime plugins are completely non-functional. I also can't modify the toolbars under Windows 98, but I can do that in XP if necessary as I have a dual boot system. We need the KernelEx devs to add the necessary functions to user.exe if possible! My user.exe is version 4.10.0.2233.

I decided eventually to just stick with update 31! I'll wait and hope that KernelEx is eventually updated to support later versions of Java 6, or indeed Java 7.

Sorry Dave, I can't remember what I deleted to bypass digital signature check thing. You're on your own, good luck. No problem. If I do manage to find out what's wrong, I'll let you know!