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winxpi

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  1. Dont bother! Many people got messages when they downloaded the pack, the Antivirus programs would detect it to be suspicious because a line in one of the batch files automatically restarts Windows 98SE. Thats intended since after installing all the Windows updates a restart is necessary. Sorry for answering so late!! The computer on which I had most of the Windows 98SE upg files for testing is only working sporadically since 2020. I had it over 12 years in use. I backuped all the files on a Vista notebook, maybe maybe maybe I get time to finish a newer version of Windows 98 Upgrade Pack but the problem besides offering anything knew would be that there is no webpage at the moment anymore. So the documentation of changes would have to happen on msfn.org. Maybe MDGX or someone else might offer a download link. Since all the community offers at the moment is really high standard stuff and great tools theres not so much what can be upgraded about the WUPG98 anymore. Examples: TLS 1.2: Roytams' Retrozilla fork from FF exists and thats good, since otherwise most parts of the web now would be inaccessible on 9x. The Updates : Most of them are included in 98SE SP 3.xx ExFat: No support for Windows 98 But as far as I remember read only support when using Total Commander and some plug-in USB: 2.0 is the highest see Maximus-Decim Native USB Drivers Also in terms of upgrading hardware you are limited to graphics drivers that came out until 2006 or so. Pretty much of the problem that Windows 98SE is faced with today is, like also mobile operating systems e.g. Android 2.3.6 its stuck at a certain level so that drivers, hardware and network are not as good as for example how they were implented in Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 and so on. Or when speaking about Android 5.0+ (the real problem of android would be the TLS 1.2 thing if I remember correctly its not like being stuck on 480p videos was such a horror or having less and less new apps many people say having to update all the time even on iOS is getting them annoyed). So you can say with the all the changes on the web in the last years: Java usage decimated, Flash support gone, Windows 98SE ran out of luck the last years. But anyone of you still supporting WIndows 98se nowadays like RLoew who sadly past away are real geniuses!
  2. Thank you to the creator of Retrozilla, in times of deprecating TLS 1.0 and 1.1 (also affects old smartphone browsers)this is an indispensable resource. If there are pages not opening and its just for the text the googles cache (javascript must be enabled)or a webproxy might do the trick. Just my two cents.
  3. Thanks for mentioning all that stuff about TLS1.2 I wasnt even aware that besides Retrozilla browsers (compatible with 9x) existed supporting it. Didnt really have luck with SeaMonkey ever so far but seems to be a specific version that you mentioned and I probably didnt try it out. I also had problems with Opera because it was outdated once I got hold of a version that would have been interesting for windows 9x. It was the so called Opera LABS SPDY thats supposed to support SPDY 2 and SPDY 3 standards. However since https(h2) became the successor its more common that some servers support old http 1.1 or either spdy 3.1 or https(h2). I was never aware of the fact that TLS played a major role for pages not loading until the IE6 SSL 3.0 "poodle"- incident when except for bing and msfn hardly any page opened with that browser.
  4. How will this affect Windows 7 usage by having a newer browser being supported in its twilight years. And what will become of the EdgeHTML version of Edge and Internet Explorer? Question 1: I think it will have no effect on Windows 7. Second question is interesting because I think theres not much use of another Chromium based browser even if it comes from Microsoft, but not saying they shouldnt try. However this means Microsoft will have to either integrate autoupdate of the new browser or now even offer security updates for the Edge chromium-based for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 since they might differ from Windows 10 Edge if its not really a browser that supports all 3 operating systems. As long as IE 11 gets supports untill official support ending this is ok. I experienced pre-installed IE 11 supporting some pages than pre-installed Edge didnt. EdgeHTML will disappear I think. The motivation for this shift if you want to know what I assume is probably that Google Chrome has the biggest user base in regards of browsers and Firefox was number two last time I checked. Probably its the "If you cant beat them join them" -idea behind it. News I found however: https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/6/18128648/microsoft-edge-chrome-chromium-browser-changes
  5. Except for "Stylish" I never tried those Add-ons. But 45.9 is also one of the last Firefox versions to support alot of the good Add-Ons. But firefox isnt the browser I use for e-mailing, its just for certain sites Im relatively sure that wont lead to malware. Im using the Add-On Classic Theme Restorer with FF 45.9 ESR for example. I think it really depends how important certain Add-ons are for you.
  6. @jumper Right, I must have forgotten that as I didnt update WUPG since then IIRC anymore. What happened so far (after the last version in 2010): The last thing I did planing on was adding a few updates that werent included in the pack before. Then I still had another IE6 cumulative update (unofficial) but since IE6 nowadays is used so rarely (support of pages post http/1.1 and security reasons) that wasnt really a big thing to include. So rather it wouldn have been interesting to include something to improve the non-IE browsers supporting 98SE. And after youtube ended up disabling flash in favor of html5 well windows 98se got thrown against the wall you could say (atleast for systems with outdated hardware). Since the page that included the original download of WUPG98 is offline for some years now it would also be a question of finding a new hosting page(although it would be enough to just share the link here I know or send if to MDGx) if I ever get time to finish a new version of the WUPG. Currently Im not having enough time to continue or better said dont take the time and lack of motivation aswell. Im happy watching that the MSFN community supports 98se after so many years and are enjoyed too see what everyone comes up with. The last "big" thing (or not so unimportant thing) I thought about inlcluding recently, was maybe adding TimeZone updates. But yeah...dont wanna be a pessimist on that one but even the European Union was now thinking about abolishing the Daylight Saving Time.... So better wait what comes out there (not to put too much effort in the thing before everything is outdated again). Microsoft aswell didnt make things easier with shutting down the Windows Update v4 server for 98 (having it online especially wouldnt have been easier for new ideas too include like even more than the 2 languages so far, although I admit that would have been more effort than ever doing the translating of the descriptions and so) but that was a much longer time ago than most of the stuff mentioned here IIRC. Just in case somebody was a bit interested what was going on recently about WUPG98. I thought I share this with you.
  7. Yes hellopdf is ok. I tried also two additional pdf converters that might have one supporting format 1.7. My file had text and two images inside. It was surely made with PDF 1.7 atleast I suppose that Word 2010 supported creating these types of PDFs. I checked with hellopdf which is freeware(should only support up to pdf 1.6): Result were ok or average but some formating issues like image shifted or wrong size of image. "SomePDF.com" (supported format unknown probably pdf 1.6 maybe 1.7 but rather not) converter through the web archive ,was freeware. Results were average. Meaning images were shifted. And ofcourse the conversion is into a .rtf instead of .doc file. KernelEx is needed to start the setup atleast. And number 3: "pdfwordconverter.net" demo version. The limitation is you get a message and start that popups and reminds you that its not the full version and you can register. And also only 50% are converted. I tried to convert 3 pages, 1 only was converted. Couldnt do that for any other page even by changing the "start" page number. It would crash when I did. But the result from the one page that I was allowed to convert was really 100% looking like in the PDF file. There was a version 2.0 (past through webarchive) and 3.0 (also through webarchive, current version is 3.5). Version 2.0 should support windows me and 2000 and all afterwards (according to the webpage). version 3 only Windows 2000 and upwards. I did however not find any difference between version 2.0 and 3.0 . And both did run on 98se with KernelEx(needed atleast to get the setup started). Conclusion: What I would suggest: Trying pdfwordconverter.net for 50% of the content of a pdf (since its demo only) and the other 50% being converted by hellopdf or somepdf.com There were slight differences between hellopdf and somepdf (besides the .doc or .rtf format) considering the layout of text. All 3 pages would have been needed to be edited afterwards anyway. There was one case where a image was converted to big and another where the fonts where to big. But I really cant remember so good which of the two programs did what at the moment. Since people suggest hellopdf to be good for windows 9x I would say try hellopdf and if you want to make an experiment try the other one aswell. Its really up to you which converter is good enough for your work. But the demo limited converted had the most flawless result for the one page it converted and with a small image on it. Making me think somepdf.com is not just supporting pdf 1.6 format but also 1.7 format. But except for hellopdf we have no documentation which pdf version can be converted to word documents. Edit: Most of the PDF-Files I found on my system seem to be PDF 1.4 or 1.5. I still must test the conversion with a 1.6 or 1.7 PDF version.
  8. True. Like the thing that Flash is getting replaced with HTML5 just because mobile devices support it better. And ofcourse older browsers dont work that well over years and the Javascript stuff and Ads everywhere play a roll. Regarding this topic I did suggest the virualization solutions since most modern hardware probably doesnt bring any drivers for Windows 9x with it. So its more a question if the drivers will be recognized or not. When I had to install Windows XP on a system formerly running Windows 2000 I did run into such a case where the network card(NIC) wasnt recognized. So such situations or similiar will probably be the rule with hardware (year 2013 and onwards). However if one wants to run windows 98se on this type of hardware why not. There just a few obstacles in the way nowadays. There still older software that wont run on the most of the modern operating systems of Windows. Especially the MS-DOS games and so.
  9. You might try Windows 98SE through VMWare ESXi (formerly VmWare Esx) or so. I saw a video where somebody claimed to install Windows 98 on Esxi. Still might be the best option how to install on modern hardware.
  10. My friends gave me a 17" LCD (non CRT) for my old windows 98se machine. Actually been the first own 17" monitor I ever used at home (notebooks just rarely have that size but to be preciously even a 15" notebook tft has the same display size as a 17" CRT where only the diagonal size is counted if I remember correctly). However the thing you mentioned reminds me of myself. I also hate the highest possible screen resolution. Its just so unusual to have that small desktop icons. So althought I use 1366x768 for my working notebook , I still stick to 1024x768 or similiar on the 17" LCD for Windows 98SE.
  11. So If I understood it correctly....recently I tried to visit msfn.org on the Windows 98SE PC and it didnt open completely that is the part where CSS fails. And this is not just on my system. I thought the whole msfnorg unusable thing was meant to be the login form (another issue that came fist). If I remember correctly that issue could be solved by using Palemoon. But never tried it myself. But its not even loading the website completely now. That must be the issue related to CSS .I can confirm that msfn.org also doesnt load in Opera or couple of Firefox versions (with the default settings). So would have to try the CSS fix suggested here.
  12. Didnt check that. And were you able to play the video without Opera lets say with a media player? For me it only worked inside Opera 12. Btw.: I cant login with Opera mobile 12.1 or Opera mini on Android nor Dolphin mini aswell. But UC Browser did work atleast in the "Desktop mode". Seems to be webkit related with msfn.org?! I did learn about css once, but I just wonder why being able to login or not has to do with css. I dont want to do as Im over smart but I always thought CSS is just for design purposes. For me on Windows 98SE loging in to my msfn.org account didnt work with Opera of Firefox. Aswell it strange that hotmail sometimes will open after login attempt other times it wont. MSFN.org however stopped. Strange enough "Combedbird 11" crashed when trying to open the Inbox, an fork of firefox version 3.6 accomplished it. I dont however understand why logging into msfn.org doesnt work. Its really strange since the much older IE6 allowes login on msfn.org but ofcourse with crappy design.
  13. I want to report the folliwing. Neither Opera Mobile 12.1 (also called classic) nor Opera 12.x eith Spdy 2.0/Spdy 3.0 support worked for the tested devices to perform spdy protocol. Android 2.3.6: opera mobile 12.1_generic (intrrnal version 12.1.4) Opera mobile classic 12.1.6 Windows 9x with kernelEx.: opera labs spdy 12.0.1 (dont bother to ask if thats opera 12.10, no it was a ln experimental limited beta from opera labs with so called spdy support back in year 2012). How I know SPDY doesnt work (for the record: http2 browsing cant be tested at all )? Spdy indicator was my,first try but neither twitter or other pages with supposed spdy on server side turned the indicator blue. Next due to a hint ofca github user was this wonderful testpage: https://www.httpvshttps.com/ Https version never opened on the tested devide so I assume spdy isnt suppirted on windows 9x and android gingerbread (atleast for windows 9x it seems to be sure). I didnt test on Windows 2000 to be honest since even chrome is supported there partly with workarounds and opera 12.10 partly so someone might give it a try and tell if spdy works on more windows clients than xp and higher.
  14. Under the same menu you can change settings in Opera 12 to make a right-click option "Download video" appear on Youtube. I found this yesterday when testing some setting in the CTRL+F12 menu. Funny how many non working features can be re-enables through this. Know here its about msfn, but before I found this thing yesterday every video would be in sluggish HTML5 format, and atleast then I could download it to load from the own drive. Also it seems that with the help of "User Scripts" many things can be customized with Opera that wouldnt work by default. I will check this out the next time Im on my 98se pc and see if I can write on msfn from there.
  15. I dont know how often you checked youtube with Flash. The issue the user mentioned is the one that systems with Windows 98/ME might be sluggish with HTML5 so like me and others he tried to play it with old school Flash (nohtml5=1 previously lastly embedding via /v/ in the url). That message Youtube shows up is not so old like you may have written here. It happened this year the first time. I think if I remember correctly Flash was usable around march and even till june 2017. And as I remember it: Ending of summer this year Youtube turned off Flash support entirely (since than the message started to appear).

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