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Here's a better "window" -- https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature

Using a 14yr window presents a statistical bias. Every statistician knows how to define their window to make their case instead of break their case.

This is not a very smart comment and contributes to the "neither side is 100% correct". I am not a "denier" but nor am I a "zero footprinter" (is that a word?). Falsehoods and mistruths exist on BOTH sides of this argument. Period. https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/22647/have-there-been-any-studies-on-how-vehicles-directly-contribute-to-a-rising-glob Not sure if that's the best link to springboard a SCIENTIFIC APPROACH or not, but look at gas burning stoves versus electric stoves and how some wish to abolish one versus the other, it is NOT about the HEAT that they produce. Generating "heat" (such as touching the engine of that car) is NOT what causes Global Warming. If it were that simple, we would have no such thing as a "catalytic converter" (touch one of those and feel how hot it is!). We can't solve Global Warming by wearing extra layers of clothing and abolishing furnaces to warm our homes. It's about CO2 emissions. "Heat" is a byproduct of a car engine. "Heat" is a byproduct of an electric stove, of a gas burning stove, of a lawnmower. Not to over-simplify in equivalence (sp?) to the over-simplification of "touch the engine", but generally speaking, the "heat" is not the issue. Exothermic reaction. Endothermic reaction. Thermodynamics. etc. It's the emissions, not the "heat". </end rant>

Don't forget cow farts!

I'm the same way. Technically, I only use the St52 browser of this thread, but I have a long history with NM27 and NM28 and revisit them every once in a while just to witness "progress" with them. The St52 that I use (daily, btw, I don't own a mobile phone and St52 is my texting/emailing/voicemailing browser, but it's not my "web browser" for actual web-browsing) is 2023-07-31. Though I do get the feeling (can't prove it) that we are the MINORITY in this regard. I have always felt that most here update EVERY WEEKEND - but we need them, they're the one's finding any issues and just where would we (and some times even Official Pale Moon!) "be without them"?

Technically, if we are truly honest here, one of MC's comments is dead-on accurate, whether we like to "admit" it or not. The builds/forks here can and do crash/corrupt at any time. Some have taken MONTHS to discover and isolate, these are RARE but they DO exist. We have all seen them, reports of "last known working version" and we have to go back MONTHS. There is no such thing as a "stable branch" of these builds/forks. We are guinea pigs, whether we want to be or not, whether we think we are or not. We are beta testers, whether we want to be or not, whether we think we are or not. However, what MC fails to see, in my humble opinion, is that we all feel "a part of something" here at MSFN. We cite these findings and discuss them as a community and the developer interacts with those of us that are "a part of something" and fixes are rolled out. How is that any different than Official Pale Moon development channels? Don't they also do the same? But, I submit, to a larger scale (we here at MSFN often thinks we are much larger than we actually are - but that can be our Pro or our Con, arguments exist on "both sides"). Long Live MSFN. Long Live "Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes".

A fourth position - "Neither side is 100% correct."

Whenever you encounter anything "map-related", that always suggests WebGL to me. Many folks disable WebGL and my releases used to disable it also. But 9 out of 10 "this web site does not work" was pretty much always WebGL so my releases now enable it by default and leaves it to the end-user to disable it if they so choose. Perhaps Mypal has WebGL disabled by default?

Agreed! I haven't allowed third-party cookies in well over two decades. My ONLY exception is strictly work-related where I need the following three exceptions in order for Teams to work (I use web-based Teams and not the Desktop App). But even these delete themselves when I close my browser.

Win95 on a '87 computer - that would be like getting a Speak & Spell to tell you what time it is. For some good history - https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/computers/

Q: What is a Cheerleader’s favorite food? A: Cheerios

I no longer have a Chase account (and yep, Chase gets discussed here quite often), but when I did, I witnessed Chase load over 130 scripts on their login page alone! But to me, that's also why I continue to use Proxomitron. I was always able to log in and do everything needed with roughly only TWENTY of those 130+. No bank account web site should be loading FACEBOOK script files, for example.

Same here. I use full hibernate and not the hybrid sleep that newer OSs use as default.

I've only ever "heard" of Discord by people here at MSFN. Other than "hearing" people throw out the word "Discord", I for one personally have NO CLUE what it is. Which is enough to tell me I HAVE NO USE FOR IT, lol. Regarding "heavy JavaScript" - how does one define "heavy"? Because MSFN loads fourty seven (Proxomitron counts them more accurately than things like uMatrix or uBO)!!! And that to me has always looked "heavy". And some of them are quite LARGE. And I technically have NO CLUE what that GIGANTIC "thumb.png" is. They show up all over the place in my logs, but I deny them via userstyle from ever being visually displayed!

Cool! I've watched Lois & Clark in the past. Will have to revisit.

Am I allowed to use F Words at MSFN? I'm guessing "no".

But on a more serious note - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkf4cAfJqxI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF-KVKBHCrM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvyAuY5_CQ&t=1273s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1BcMO-NKUg

I've *NEVER* met a person that runs XP "out of necessity" for WELL OVER A DECADE. Heck, even the "holdouts" here at MSFN will openly admit that their Beloved XP stems more from nostalgia or don't-buy-new-until-old-is-literally-dead or new-is-waste-if-old-still-works or some sort of perhaps "bragging rights" that we (myself included) could get something that old to last so long. As far as that goes, at least when I was running XP (I only migrated to Win10 a few short months ago), I was running XP 100%, I didn't have a "tablet" or "mobile phone" to run to when I couldn't achieve a task on XP.

Looks like registration is now restored. Unique Birthday Parties, two CEO1861's, and three Grug's looks a bit Spammy. The "wtf" looks suspicious as well.

Agreed! As a rule of thumb, no link with the word "crack" or "keygen" or "hack" should ever be posted here at MSFN.

I've seen this in the past. May I assume you defused via Proxomitron?