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I've personally "given up" on UXP browsers 360Chrome v11 (Chromium 69) has been able to do 99% of everything I've thrown at it then I use 360Chrome v13 (Chromium 86) for that tiny 1%. I kinda don't see myself returning to anything-Mozilla until @feodor2's Mypal "2.0" hits the scene (very likely delayed due to recent geopolitical events) - looking forward to seeing what it will have to offer. Please stay safe, @feodor2
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The MSFN café - A Penny for Your Thoughts
NotHereToPlayGames replied to XPerceniol's topic in Funny Farm
My weekend venture - One of the neighbors requested I set up a budget for her since she's now on Social Security and on a fixed income. She was bragging over the weekend that her water bill went down $3 for the month and she says it is because she now only flushes her toilet for #2 and does not flush it for #1 - um, for one, GROSS. But I have my "teacher's hat" on and I'm being nice to her, we go to her water bill web site and it has her 23 most recent water bills. They all show her at 748 gallons per month except ONE -- December is at 1496 (note, that's 748 times 2). I explain to her that the water bill company does not charge you "per cup", they charge in 748 *gallon* increments. I walk her over to her bathroom and printed right on the toilet is "1.6 gallons per flush". That's FOUR HUNDRED SIXTY SEVEN AND A HALF "flushes" to hit 748 gallons. Or SIXTEEN per day for a 30-day month. Granted, where in that 748-gallon "teir" is her typical month is not shown on her water bill. Told her she should flush her toilet every time, be it #1 or #2, and to count how many times she runs the washing machine per month. Explained that a typical washing machine uses 40 gallons per load. That's only 18.7 loads per month, or roughly 4.7 loads per week. It is the WASHING MACHINE that bumped her up into the second "tier", not her toilet. -
Use the "Download Anyway" link from this site --- https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/ Extract the downloaded user_agent_switcher-0.7.3-fx+sm.xpi to a folder called user_agent_switcher-0.7.3-fx+sm Open the install.rdf file contained within the user_agent_switcher-0.7.3-fx+sm folder using your preferred text editor Add the below as a new "em:target" -- <em:targetApplication> <Description> <em:id>{8de7fcbb-c55c-4fbe-bfc5-fc555c87dbc4}</em:id> <em:minVersion>25.0</em:minVersion> <em:maxVersion>29.*</em:maxVersion> </Description> </em:targetApplication> Save the edited install.rdf Highlight all of the files and folders in the user_agent_switcher-0.7.3-fx+sm folder and create a user_agent_switcher-0.7.3-fx+sm.zip file from all of the highlighted files and folders Rename the .zip of the new file to .xpi Now go to the Add-ons page in Mypal and go to the "gear icon" in the upper right corner by the search input field and drop down the "gear icon" and select "Install Add-on From File..." Select the new user_agent_switcher-0.7.3-fx+sm.xpi that contains the edited install.rdf You should now have the User Agent Switcher add-on installed in your Mypal edit - then right-click empty space to the right of the open new tab plus sign and select "Customize" Scroll down the drag-and-drop the User Agent Switcher icon to the area to the right of the toolbar downloads icon, if you have other add-on icons being displayed you can drag and drop to where you want this icon
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Add the following string to about:config --- general.useragent.override.addons-legacy.palemoon.org -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:4.8) Goanna/20211001 PaleMoon/29.4.0.2 Then visit this site --- https://addons-legacy.palemoon.org/releases/togglejscript/ The "Install Now" button should now be active and should install for you.
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Very true! (That is, as long as you prescribe to the philosophy that "truth" is 'relative' versus 'absolute'.) -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Same here. But it was not the only "date bug" -- - January 4, 1975 --- overflowed 12-bit field used in Decsystem 10 operating systems (text-oriented Star Trek type game, Pascal compiler, Lisp AI, Fortran compiler [I took a Fortran class while at Purdue in the 90s]) - September 9, 1999 --- aka, 9/9/99 and conflict with 9999 which was commonly used to specify unknown dates - the year 2010 --- dubbed Y2K+10 or Y2.01K - conflict between Binary Coded Decimal 0x10 for the number 10 versus Hexadecimal encoding the number 10 as 0x0A and 0x10 representing the number 16 in Hexadecimal - the year 2022 --- aka, Y2K22 - the maximum value of a signed 32-bit integer - the year 2038 (okay, this one isn't here yet) --- dubbed Y2K38 - only an issue on 32-bit Unix systems -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
lol I did the math also. Kinda surprised somebody else did too. Though I submit that this is not "linear" (I include ESR, Android, and Desktop releases - why? Because I don't think that Android and Desktop "have" to follow the same version numbers, they are two distinctly different products). But that does convolute "number of releases" with "four-digit version number". Wikipedia indicates that Firefox had 11 releases in only 6 months (so I shall average this as 22 for the year) of 2011, 31 releases in 2012, 31 releases in 2013, 32 releases in 2014, 45 releases in 2015 --- see where I'm going? I counted 63 for 2020 -- I acknowledge that counting ESRs, Android, and Desktop releases separately does "inflate" these numbers. 46 for 2021. 22 + 31 + 31 + 32 + 45 + 63 + 46 = 270 270 / 7 = 39 average per year So that at least brings your 70yr estimate down to 26 years So I'll make a bold prediction -- right now we are drawing in very close to three-digit version numbers and if we keep doing decimated versions like 90.0 to 90.0.1 to 90.0.2, that's SIX character spacings. So my bold prediction is that somewhere within that 26 years that we lose the decimal point completely -- we go from 110 to 111 (three character spacings), be don't do any 110.5.0 or 110.5.1 (seven character spacings). And we'll be at those four digits before you know it. Waka waka waka... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Agreed! I've always "hated" the weekly updates. Seems to me that some folks just feel "naked" unless their anti-virus definitions update every twenty minutes instead of every twenty days and so they carry that same logic over to their web browser. The only justification I see for "weekly" is that it makes Roytam's job a teany-tiny-tad easier - update 50 line items every week as opposed to 200 line items once a month. But all-in-all, 90+ percent of the 50 weekly line items have ZERO effect on daily web browsing - you'd have to find the 100 web sites among the 1.7 billion known to exist where that particular line item has "any" effect whatsoever. Unfortunately, we live in a world where folks see 50 line items and assume that each and every line item has a direct effect on "millions" of web sites. -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
lol - yeah, they're already worried about 3-digit version numbers in the User Agent string. And at this rate, four-digit version numbers is quite literally (not figuratively, but LITERALLY) "just around the corner". -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I hold that same unpopular take regarding Roytam1, but never really felt that towards Feodor2. Neither here nor there, "it is what it is". Agreed! I was never able to even Resource Hacker that old raccoon and intentionally stayed on an early version of Mypal just to avoide the raccoon. I do definitely look forward to Mypal "2.0". -
No issues, D.Draker. Carry on. I'll add this thread to my "out-of-site, out-of-mind" Stylus sheet. I was not trying to take sides but see how it probably looked that way. But correcting people's grammar (not just me, I've seen this done to others) ??? I'm not submitting any of my replies for a doctorate thesis - so I could care less if I mipsel wards are had grammar miptaques hear are their. No dog in this fight. Moving on. "Out of sight, out of mind."
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I place my hand on a Bible and swear to God and everything Holy - for the LONGEST time, I assumed these both to be the SAME PERSON. I don't think that anymore, I admit (only one of these two is on my "ignore list"). But I agree, @Jaguarek62, the "always right" persona is nearly identical between these two. Of course, I also say that as a person whom my own father accuses me of always being right and I always return, "Apple didn't fall far from the tree?" or "Pot? Kettle?" and we chuckle and move on.
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To be perfectly honest, I could care less where they are at. My bookmark is the "Unread Content" link. Then I tinker with my Stylus custom style sheet so that "popular" threads that I could care less about (StartAllBack, decommissioning of update servers, what do we even do at this point, anything with "kernel" in the title, anything with 95, 98, or 2000 in the title) are all completely hidden - out-of-sight, out-of-mind. Don't care about 'em, don't even need to see them on "my" Unread Content list. Whoala, "problem solved".
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Try this on for size -- that website shows a tiny 0.49% of worldwide desktops run XP. Sounds about right to me. Then according to here we have 339.77 million Personal Computers in 2021. 339,770,000 times 0.0049 = 1,664,873. I love my XP, but I was expecting worldwide XP machines to only be in the tens of thousands, not 1.66 million.
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I technically only "looked" for stats for Mozilla versus Chrome, I didn't care about the teany-tiny players with teany-tiny market share (which Mozilla barely exceeds what I would call "teany-tiny"). After my several years with GreenBrowser then my several years with Sleipnir, I learned it wasn't really important to distinguish them from IE because they were only a front-end "shell" for the IE engine. So "to me", Mozilla is Mozilla. Market share is market share. Not really important "to me" (as far as market share goes) if IE means IE8 or IE9 or IE10 or IE11 -- IE is IE. Not really important "to me" (as far as market share goes) if Mozilla means Quantum or UXP -- Mozilla is Mozilla. Not really important "to me" (as far as market share goes) if Chromium is 360Chrome or Edge or Chromium or Chrome or Ungoogled Chromium or Vivaldi or Brave or Iron or Iridium -- Chrome is Chrome. -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Most of the stats sites I found all lumped all Mozilla flavors as Mozilla and all of Chromium flavors as Chrome. If you dropped Firefox and migrated to MCP, you did not add or subtract from the Mozilla number. -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
To add a little perspective, 2018 population was 7.602 billion (data.worldbank.org) and 2021 population is estimated at 7.927 billion (worldometers.info). So we added 325 million to the global population while Firefox lost 50 million in the same time span. I personally don't think that Firefox can "right the ship" at this point. Firefox was always a bit of a "niche market", but feel free to DuckDuckGo / Bing / Google the phrase "is firefox dying" and enjoy the reading. -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I view it more along the lines that hackers want to hack as many computers as they can. Between 2018 and 2021, Firefox has lost 50 million users. In 2018, there were about 244 million users, that number is now down to below 200 million. That loss is staggering now matter how you look at it - "rose-colored lenses" can't even make those numbers look 'good'. So if Firefox overall is down that huge, what percentage of those are Quantum versus Pre-Quantum, Rust versus Pre-Rust? Why would a hacker target 1 million users if s/he can target 199 million users? -
MSFN has undergone code changes. I have not tracked it down to know "where", but Proxomitron clearly indicates that there has been code changes. The keylogger now makes it past Proxomitron. Unless I changed my Proxomitron config, I'll have to double-check. Not really interested in this becoming a "cat and mouse game", so I'll just rely on my own site-specific keylogger blocks for now. Disregard - I set a javascript flag for a different web site but my regexp caught this site by accident.
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I have a circular slide rule somewhere. Used it during the college days to "show off" to the professors that I could do logarithms "without a calculator". -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I've also used Win 10 non-stop since it was released! I'm "forced" to use Win 10 at work. But not even three brand new computer purchases since the release of 10 has me using 10 here at home (one of those three came with 7, the other two came with 10). So congratulations on purchasing a new computer - but until you revert back to XP and not run Win 10 that came with that new computer, this thread does not need the "pollution" of discussing anti-XP sentiments. I'll leave the "last word" to you, I've said what I needed to say. -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I'm "old". My first computer was a Commodore 64 (still have it). I've been using XP non-stop since it was released in August of 2001 (when it was released to manufacturing [Research & Development Laboratory where I worked as a college intern], retail stores did not receive it until October 2001). I was running AutoCAD at the time that still used a "tablet" mouse (a mouse with a magnetic crosshairs pickup zone and a huge tablet with "icons" and large "template" sheets where you could change the tablet "icons"). I remember it to this day because IT was concerned about whether that "tablet" mouse would run on XP (it did!). My point remains - I have no interest in this thread turning into a conversation on how "unsafe" it is to be using XP - we that use it are already aware of this and we do not read an NT-Family OS thread to be hit with "use Linux" or "use 10" or "XP is insecure" !!!