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Dylan Cruz

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    W7, W2K, XP, Vista, and Office 2010, always! w2k.phreaknet.org

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  1. Any thoughts on what I might try, then? Snipping Tool is all I want, I don't give a hoot about any other Win10 stuff
  2. But we can port the APIs, right? I think that's been done for other programs.
  3. I guess that would make sense... so all I need to mod is the exe? No DLLs or anything? What are these? I don't use different language packs, just English Huh?
  4. Any thoughts on porting the Snipping Tool from Windows 10 to Windows 7? Pretty much everything about Windows 10 sucks in comparison to Windows 7, but the nifty "Delay" feature of its snipping tool is quite useful, have to hand it to them. I'll commend them when they do something well and criticize them when they screw literally everything else up. Obviously, the delay feature isn't worth downgrading to Windows 10 for, so is there any feasible way of porting it that people have figured out? I went down the Dependency Walker rabbit hole a while back but when I copied everything over it, it didn't work, and just said it was not a valid Win32 application. So I'm unsure what they've done or how they could have modded the tool so much that it's not even recognized as Win32 anymore.
  5. Works for me too, I think! At least I don't get "Diagnose Connection Problems" anymore in IE8. Not sure how useful this is, since updates aren't being released for XP anymore, but still nice to see! But then I get: The website has encountered a problem and cannot display the page you are trying to view. The options provided below might help you solve the problem. For self-help options: Frequently Asked Questions Find Solutions Windows Update Newsgroup For assisted support options: Microsoft Online Assisted Support (no-cost for Windows Update issues) But I borked the update catalog on a different OS here a few days ago, and maybe the catalog blacklisted me or something, who knows. Have to use a proxy in order to access it now!
  6. Yeah, I hear you there - know how it feels https://blog.interlinked.us/44/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-why-windows-10-sucks On the bright side, i look at it this way: I'll never need to purchase Windows or Office again. Microsoft as done me a huge favor!
  7. Awesome, just was scared I was missing updates for a second. That's one thing I hate - not having the latest versions of all my old software!
  8. @win32 I only ever installed HFSLIP and that was it. No USP 5.1 or nLite or anything. Does that mean my W2K is missing updates? I thought that had all of them.
  9. Whoops, I was thinking of Windows 7! Oh, yeah, that's just disgusting. But Adobe has the same problem anyways. Their Reader DC programs are absolute dog stuff. I prefer XI and the older programs anyways, so good riddance. I can stop paying two pipers at once: Microsoft AND Adobe... thanks, guys! Well... you could use the old ones... they're better anyways, IMO partly for that reason.
  10. OK, here's something weird... @Dave-H So I went through and tried installing all the EXE updates I'd determined from CABs (and previously deleted the corresponding CABs, since I don't need them regardless). Most of them actually installed, so a lot of these older updates still are required to get up to date and aren't superseded. These all said "already installed" so these are in practice superseded or irrelevant - and now noted in my Excel sheet (not yet updated online): access2010-kb4018363-fullfile-x86-glb.exe oart2010-kb3115197-fullfile-x86-glb.exe - probably would've been valid but there's a newer update in the set oartconv2010-kb3115248-fullfile-x86-glb.exe - ditto vbe72010-kb3115120-fullfile-x86-glb.exe vbe72010-kb3128031-fullfile-x86-glb.exe visio2010-kb3114872-fullfile-x86-glb.exe visio2010-kb3115314-fullfile-x86-glb.exe So, I deleted all of these. This is part of why I wanted to back-trace the CABs to KB #s. I knew that some of them had to be irrelevant. I suspect some of the CABs I've not been able to trace to KB #s are also irrelevant, but not sure how I can test that or get KB #s easily from those still. Only thing left is powerpointloc2010-kb4022136-fullfile-x86-glb.exe When trying to install it says: There are no products affected by this package installed on the system and I can't figure out why. My sheet doesn't show it's been superseded and it's a "relatively" new update. It says PowerPoint 2010 equation editor, and I don't see how that wouldn't affect me. There is also talk about "localized versions of PowerPoint", but I don't really get what the deal is here. Why is it refusing to install?
  11. Can't you set it to "Download but let me choose to install" or whatever it's called? Nope, they've already confirmed there will be a non-subscription "Office 2022" next year. Course, I won't be buying it. I honestly wouldn't care much now if they discontinued the perpetual, because Office is so awful now (like Windows) that I would never use a modern version. OK, now we're talking! Here's where I've gotten. Surprisingly, my spreadsheet helped me considerably in tracing many of these CABs. I probably could trace about 60% already. I need a bit more help with the other ones. Most of the newer ones I was able to trace, but some of the older ones are more difficult because there aren't EXEs available and CAB tracing is a mess. If only there were a way in the catalog to feed it a CAB name and get a KB back. But nope. Tried it, and now I get a server error every time I use that. Have to check the catalog in a different browser now. Anyways, here's what I've gotten at so far - traced/confirmed KB #s listed below the appropriate update - the way I traced was not actually using the signing time as much but mostly just the version numbers, then going there in the sheet, finding the appropriate category, and checking each of a handful of updates until I found a file name match like "access-x-none" for instance: access-x-none_8b5269f69d8184a3d57452c15344a77c4029e3e0.cab SigningTime : 2/15/2019 6:38:33 PM 4018363 accessolkaddin-x-none_4571200d0c9db16b528f6102c7efcc394775f61f.cab SigningTime : 10/14/2015 11:50:17 AM convintl-en-us_38dc63af44da4516f4e34c703bddd4895991ff7e.cab SigningTime : 8/25/2017 8:11:33 PM 3213626 csi-x-none_d8eb94e0c20a0a6e007dbcf657ace19a293e5171.cab SigningTime : 9/5/2015 1:36:14 AM 3054886, no EXE (CAB only) https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=3054886 excelintl-en-us_643f56790952224f651b92cbcfd18938de8f3720.cab SigningTime : 3/23/2015 1:47:50 AM 2589348, no EXE exppdf-x-none_78e193d7fa3be46fa6c07f73d3efebeed167a549.cab SigningTime : 8/13/2015 8:20:05 AM 3055047, no EXE filterpack-x-none_0badc2b5c4c30be34378d267f4284034573a1496.cab SigningTime : 6/18/2019 4:55:07 PM 4509295 fm20-x-none_28210a36f7d5d948e8b95cc9d4b9a9141eedc557.cab SigningTime : 11/20/2014 12:12:59 PM 3054873, no EXE (CAB ONLY) fm20-x-none_9649a309eee15b5d32c65c1d1b522c4d8eeee716.cab SigningTime : 6/24/2015 3:22:34 AM 2553154, no EXE gfonts-x-none_23715aec547df5d7824747f46ff04e82f36a2d33.cab SigningTime : 10/3/2014 7:04:45 PM 2589386, no EXE gfx-x-none_3b7db2e32c6c15db9aa5f868e28b2966e833e84d.cab SigningTime : 7/24/2013 10:24:55 AM --- Patch;gfx;14.0.7106.5000 - somewhere around Apr 2014? gkall-x-none_b77a1de492d2701b6e8ecb2c627d4e8ec2e76fb3.cab SigningTime : 5/17/2016 8:01:29 PM groove-x-none_c9e8eb19a37187686489aa3562e51a54d41a9bab.cab SigningTime : 12/18/2013 8:11:06 PM slightly older than https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2825817/description-of-the-sharepoint-workspace-2010-hotfix-package-groove-x-n ieawsdc-x-none_48528979c421e062fd198908d5de4828b99ff32e.cab SigningTime : 7/16/2015 10:24:02 AM infopath-x-none_71e941bd9c288cac97405c0b44dd140d171bebde.cab SigningTime : 2/10/2016 12:47:59 AM 3114414 ipeditor-x-none_286d99c11bb8da6afadfd38842eb965a3869a40a.cab SigningTime : 12/18/2013 8:10:34 PM msaddndr-x-none_fe7e444293cb613cbd3883bac96bf50eb76ba8a1.cab SigningTime : 4/17/2014 6:12:41 PM 2880971, no EXE (CAB only) mscomctlocx-x-none_037c2e34dfa1b048ad37c896d4a6826125fc0b8d.cab SigningTime : 12/11/2015 5:09:19 PM 2881029 mshelp-x-none_4c3af1336cc8599e0b6f1cebcc7a22d2fd44d524.cab SigningTime : 10/25/2013 7:47:32 PM msocf-x-none_b6de60914c3e537e2c9fa1053f90faebc4b61e92.cab SigningTime : 8/14/2013 4:40:23 AM msohevi-x-none_a01a35c87b1b61d7cab0f6782c01e98dbbc2f72c.cab SigningTime : 12/18/2018 12:28:58 PM 2553332 msointl-en-us_cbb2e8d950e9de471c4b7770b6699032dde0ef98.cab SigningTime : 2/17/2015 8:16:04 PM msores-x-none_c7a4834f7b28175fd385cb8c83b4420b73384a09.cab SigningTime : 9/7/2013 1:11:01 AM msptls-x-none_e2cdd9de533758b57ac6c6cc3520ddd55da0ba85.cab SigningTime : 10/20/2018 4:22:37 PM 3114565 mstore-x-none_c408d603eb2a9c0c0573a888818c1e8533e44fa7.cab SigningTime : 11/12/2014 2:05:51 AM 2553140, no EXE mtextra-x-none_d02b158e7c2dc7219dde12e91568dcde7a3c13ca.cab SigningTime : 8/28/2018 5:11:46 PM 4092436 oart-x-none_0ea4efd1d02042004a2378c3dfbb69a8e2849860.cab SigningTime : 1/22/2019 6:44:30 PM 4462172 oart-x-none_5b6a337944a2f282db4c626bf56243a5a9e8fa4c.cab SigningTime : 5/17/2018 2:43:51 PM 3115197 oartconv-x-none_daef313f48ba188dec24ae1779a9cc7b9486f802.cab SigningTime : 1/22/2019 6:44:02 PM 4462187 oartconv-x-none_db1971e40e0069c84e31a87cc0231de5694925d5.cab SigningTime : 5/17/2018 2:43:31 PM 3115248 ocfxca-x-none_ea01b56460836086e46ac9135fa5ff094dd4b818.cab SigningTime : 6/17/2015 5:26:57 PM 2553347 (no EXE, CAB only) offowc-x-none_2874cb2b3ef22a8ea1f839c8adb8aae66547c56c.cab SigningTime : 2/15/2019 6:40:22 PM 4461626 oleo-x-none_6295985a2c496a5ed4be2b454247afc14f3d7c48.cab SigningTime : 11/30/2018 3:50:03 PM onenoteintl-en-us_52ec80bd9d14edd1dfdb312ee0ef0f45f4879a1c.cab SigningTime : 7/12/2016 11:56:08 PM osc-x-none_31d563081f0a879ba0c775ae9b25578279591abd.cab SigningTime : 5/14/2015 6:12:33 PM ose-x-none_3078d43e678365e4c9e8743915f13a74d8bc089c.cab SigningTime : 6/27/2018 10:15:24 AM 4022206 osetup-x-none_1d9ab800d30916ec8a16a7d5f792ec58a16f25f1.cab SigningTime : 6/26/2018 2:18:58 PM 4022208 ospp-x-none_5d0c591708ab6fdb76553c0a2ca137dc3a8b7282.cab SigningTime : 11/12/2014 2:05:53 AM otkruntimertl-x-none_ed039e26757d92e91629f0ef966dedd3aeace2a7.cab SigningTime : 2/10/2016 12:48:40 AM outexum-x-none_2dc9cb78765fe55550051b768eb883ba94247e88.cab SigningTime : 3/14/2019 1:52:12 PM 3114559 outlfltr-x-none_0a5c2c66c1d8cf822d0b4b2b8f6940d66ced1faf.cab SigningTime : 7/12/2016 11:28:26 PM outlfltr-x-none_d315e4d39aea9d809dd0112dcd6ab8b1ffdbbb14.cab SigningTime : 10/16/2013 5:04:14 AM powerpointintl-en-us_c3fdea1cc362f2472dd94ba8d001fc36e8955d29.cab SigningTime : 6/26/2018 2:55:23 PM 4022136 proof-en-us_a3a11b51b90c7f31fd661d7b401bcc7abbe260be.cab SigningTime : 6/5/2017 5:33:40 PM publisher-x-none_2fdbf1786c5e550b7076d2aac9bf8f732b9ef89d.cab SigningTime : 5/17/2018 2:44:16 PM 4011186 (SUPERSEDED) riched20-x-none_e31f07b596a5e1c0989d04d214a55225955c68cc.cab SigningTime : 7/16/2015 10:25:29 AM 2589318, no EXE stslist-x-none_af83eec5aba68f724978bde564bbdefb27ae950f.cab SigningTime : 2/15/2019 6:41:52 PM 2589339 targetdir-x-none_4df7780127a2023254259c63c856feaed955abb5.cab SigningTime : 8/14/2013 4:46:08 AM targetdir-x-none_9cc0dbf4acd3806cd7efb742772affe9e9384c4d.cab SigningTime : 7/21/2011 3:12:30 PM usp10-x-none_4bf400783d89e5dd97c93cc8c65d394ac43721a0.cab SigningTime : 8/27/2017 1:28:39 PM 3213631 vbe7-x-none_2b1e4e0617ccd54821ed36fa61cc8dd04da5804f.cab SigningTime : 4/12/2017 2:28:42 PM 3128031 vbe7-x-none_da7ecd740b30d8f2699acc30f5beda805138241e.cab SigningTime : 10/20/2016 3:18:56 PM 3115120 visio-x-none_3208a2d87b4c506255d9f123c747278f8d79b349.cab SigningTime : 5/17/2016 8:03:01 PM 3114872 visio-x-none_5969b6a7114f7dceaf1150c5e1b26594ba286553.cab SigningTime : 1/22/2019 6:45:24 PM 3115314 vviewer-x-none_d78f3d1bc020ff923b6126dd297480c3c0b06050.cab SigningTime : 5/17/2016 8:00:40 PM 2999465 wce-x-none_85cc31f351a3cd3c448ed06bcf311babdbbbfd22.cab SigningTime : 6/5/2017 5:03:52 PM 3191908 wec-x-none_9524dc91a4f6d1b09c4f5ff2ae22d6a9779d9a65.cab SigningTime : 9/5/2015 1:37:31 AM wordintl-en-us_8c28c699d2c958183efaa43e34d3e109e0b0582e.cab SigningTime : 12/28/2018 11:43:19 PM
  12. OK, @Dave-H and @crashnburn4u I figured out part of what's going on, in the process of tracing my mysterious CABs Now that I have the Excel sheet, it's fairly easy. Properties displays the version number of every MSU in the files extracted in the CAB, so I just go in each folder. What I'm finding is that what happened is that catalog.update.microsoft.com offers update in CAB format. However, the newer KBs, from at least the past few years, link to EXEs on download.microsoft.com. I think what happened is up through February, I was copying KB #s into the Catalog portal, and downloading CAB files, but after that, I just clicked the links in the KB articles and downloaded the EXEs, and never looked back. Interesting! Personally, I prefer the EXEs, because they contain the KB number in them which makes referencing really easy. The CAB file names are only listed in update.catalog - I would need to make some kind of script to trawl through the site and iterate over all KB numbers and make a list of which CAB file names go with which KBs - and not sure how to approach to be honest... esp. since some KBs have multiple files for download. Also explains why I only downloaded the en-us CAB for some of those updates, whereas the EXEs have all the languages. Didn't want to manually download every language update! Many older KBs do not have EXE updates, though, so I have to keep the CABs around in the event they are necessary. Once I know exactly what CABs are which KBs, and I know if they were definitely superseded or not, I can then manually try installing them on my patched Vista testbench and see what happens. Then, we'll know a little bit more, and maybe some of those CABs really are redundant. At that point, I'll be feeling much more confident about all this!
  13. OK @Dave-H The Excel file is complete. Downloadable from w2k.phreaknet.org - it's right at the top It contains *EVERY* single Office 2010 update ever released, to my knowledge. I scoured all the Microsoft KB articles. Probably took around ~5 hours total. Supersedence for every update is also listed where provided, and formulas and colors keep track of which updates have been made unnecessary by future updates. There's still some questions I have, but this helps, so it's a start. Anyways, could be a great asset in crosschecking updates now. I'd be interested to see what updates you're offered and how they line up on this sheet. Maybe you can note the KBs but not install?
  14. Awesome, thanks! It'll be interesting to see where that lines up. One problem I've noticed is Microsoft is, well, sloppy about supersedence. For one thing, a lot of their Outlook updates (the really large ones) show up as not superseded, except I know, in practice, they have been, becuase there'll be a newer version with a similar filename that's only a few KB larger or smaller. I'm still finding non-superseded (possibly legitmate) updates though as far back as 2016. Talk about a real PITA. NOWHERE on the official update webpages does it say, oh yeah, go back and download all these updates since 2013. It just links to the latest KB as if that were all you need! What a joke!
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