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I also suspect it's probably already at best it can be while remaining Firefox.
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AVX builds. Thorium (Chromium) and Mercury (Firefox) are available. Of course if you don't like them, you'll have to compile another fork on your own with modified compiler flags. Also plenty of disk space and RAM will be needed.
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UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Still takes about 25 seconds on work laptop with Pale Moon and 100 Mbps downstream connection. The time is cut in half with Edge. -
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UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Wow, https://www.gog.com/en/ took whooping 54 seconds to load fully here on official Pale Moon 33.5.0, 34 seconds on older Firefox 110.0.1 and 24 seconds on even older Edge 94.0.992.58. -
We didn't see the post with details. Standby memory is available for use by applications, you won't see it on the used side on your regular memory usage counter. Windows will throw loaded files out when memory is needed. It also tends to keep files loaded by the program you just closed loaded. Though I'm not sure how I feel about preloading many gigabytes of data in advanced, especially on computers with faster storage. Even for bigger files, you may not need all portions at once. But in case you do...well it's all guesswork and I suppose any requested chunk is immediately available in the case of file being already fully loaded. Doesn't Linux require loading something extra if you want Superfetch-like behavior?
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Apparently you can run Windows 11 on certain Android smartphones. https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1h9bblk/i_managed_to_run_windows_11_on_a_phone/ https://renegade-project.tech/en/home I noticed the guy on Reddit called his phone "old". Then I looked it up and it's from 2021.
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Do they have problems beyond "OMG Windows uses half-RAM!"? I mean, is another application being starved? Seems people with most RAM complain the most. Regarding testing in VMs, I personally only encountered bugs that have nothing to do with specific hardware and drivers, so easily detectable in VM.
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AliExpress? Looks sketchy to me.
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Some mobile apps have gotten considerably heavier with years. Still insisting with a 10 years old low-end smartphone here. From past experience, regular web browsers tend to make the OS terminate the home app with just a single tab open. Via is one of the browsers that uses WebView component.
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Win10 doesn't need high-end hardware, just sufficient RAM (was always a must for NT) and SSD disk if you're impatient.
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True, one is application specific, other is global.
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I only use Via.
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I could get to my bank with XP browsers, but smartphone 2FA is required. Edit: Actually, Android tablet is also fine.
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UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Oh yeah, that could be another reason to use them. I only ever used PotPlayer with YouTube and I never tried making it fail on purpose, so checking with the browser what root certificate it's linked to and disabling it. YouTube wasn't the problem in either old 360Chrome 13.5 or Supermium (both on XP). Right, no explanation for that, so I didn't say anything. Should have been explicit. -
Office XP uses old ComCtl32 version 5, at least this is my assumption from first screenshot I found, so GUI elements like buttons and checkboxes have Win9x style appearance, not using graphical resources in Visual Style theme in XP+. Icons are separate matter I think. Office 2003 uses the mentioned resources, but additionally, there is a check somewhere if the used theme file is luna.msstyles specifically, then menus go blue.
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Pretty sure I tried both VP9 and H.264, but it's been a while.
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UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Or maybe it only happens if you're faster than the browser can process. Does this site work for anyone? https://europe.beyerdynamic.com/ No reason to bother with that unless you use Chromium AFAIK. And even then it's not a 100% thing, there are a bunch of certificates XP doesn't understand anyway and validation fails. -
What about videos specifically? Chromium was always a bit stuttery for me in that department. Something to bring any browser to its knees, port of id Tech 4 running Doom 3 demo. http://www.continuation-labs.com/projects/d3wasm/ But the demo version doesn't include the short demo file (gameplay recording), which can be played back with timedemo command, that runs it as fast as possible and outputs the average frame rate.
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It won't change the icons, but there's Disable visual themes option on the .exe properties on Compatibility tab. Presumably icon fallback is programmed in somewhere, but that requires navigating the x86 disassembled mess. Newer Windows since Vista have a compatibility shim called FakeLunaTheme that activates the blue theme in Office 2003. Even MenuStrip component in .NET Framework under more recent versions of Windows responds to that.
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That's just the first time in a session. And since I don't use those browsers as much these days, I've trained pre-fetcher to not bother with them. I remember a period when I used Edge a bit more often, could login, leave computer alone for a minute or two, then Edge would open in 3 seconds. When I do it now, it's about 10 seconds the first time. Do it again, it's 3. Then if I empty standby list with RAMMap, it's 10 seconds again. We didn't have as bloated web browsers when this computer was new in 2009, but today, spinning rust needs some time to gather all the crap together. Linux can't magically speed up loading bloated programs. 10 seconds is about the standard I get for typical bloated modern browser on Linux. I've seen much worse with Firefox on Windows (hence 15+ seconds remark), though that also included restoring old session (of course, with all other tabs remaining inactive). Those 10 seconds I mentioned previously with Edge, it can take a bit longer if done just after login after computer is turned on.
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Sometimes I think I want something different. But honestly, it seems no browser really clicks with me, even Pale Moon.
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Who in their right mind would care about the trash I have on my disks? But seriously, doubt anything will change unless somehow a bigger shift takes place in the entire society. I'd be on 1909 but I got curious about 20xx line and switching again is too much bother. I noticed they're showing monitor refresh rates in settings more precisely. If I recall they did something in 2004 with handling multi-screen setups with different refresh rates, though running one screen at 60 Hz and other at 75 Hz still doesn't feel right, so just run both at 60. Maybe it's better for other combos, which I certainly can't try on old hardware. No, the history spanning centuries show there's nothing to hope for. Maybe for Putin to press that button.
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None, really. I just cited FPS because those numbers striked me that way. My only test is whether I like using it long-term. I like comfortable GUI where I can move buttons around freely and that the browser uses Windows inherited ClearType text contrast, both for GUI and web pages, among other things. I've also seen certain aspects where Pale Moon is better despite getting lowest scores in benchmarks. All Firefox and Chromium browsers take forever to start on my PC unless they're already all prefetched and precached and whatever. By forever I mean way over 15 seconds.
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They still have you where they want you. You're the #1 Blink fan.
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Guess I could run Floorp on a Raspberry, but just can't bring myself to use that as a daily driver. Speedometer numbers are meaningless to me and if the only way to get performance is to sacrifice everything else, then I'm not interested. Still, those numbers are couple of tens higher than on old desktop on these sorts of codebases. Though the difference might as well be as meaningless when comparing 2 already relatively high frame rates in 3D rendering, where the difference between 20 and 40 FPS is much more significant than the difference between 250 and 500 FPS.
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