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It's done and gone with 8.1. You can drop it from the list.

It's better not to try test build on Windows 8.1 now because there are some critical issues on it. I'm waiting for humanangle to test right-click crash issue.

No, sorry. It's not possible.

An announcement you've been waiting for + 8.1 ****storm a day early StartIsBack will be back again for Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 R2! Current versions of StartIsBack are not compatible with those operating systems. If you install current StartIsBack versions, nothing will happen. You should uninstall StartIsBack if you're willing to try 8.1 or 2012 R2 preview upgrade. SIB versions earlier than 2.0 can crash the OS. StartIsBack will return Windows 7 menu recreated with all the details and experience you're accustomed with and improvements to the total UI experience, adapted to 8.1 changes; new cool features as well. I advice you DON'T try Windows 8.1 on real machine as Preview build seems VERY buggy, with user experience NOT really improved. Start button is nice but lame. Bugs are obvious. New version of StartIsBack will be a free upgrade for all users who purchased StartIsBack previously. Windows 8.1 preview is horrible so you shouldn't expect StartIsBack for Windows 8.1 very soon. StartIsBack.Next test builds will still work on Windows 8 for some time. Please try to discuss it on https://moot.it/startisback

StartIsBack 2.1.1 http://www.startisback.com/#download-tab Also, orbs are back (but shamrock is default). I believe we've come to terms with MS' representative.

TEST BUILD 4 is out with new features! https://moot.it/startisback Also, StartIsBack 2.1.1 with minor changes is expected soon.

So it's confirmed that 8.1 removes them?

That's intended and likely won't be reimplemented. Other bugs are noted, thanks for your sharp eye

No, but there is alternate thing planned for folders.

When crashes happen? If it's outside of using menu and launching apps, it's hardly StartIsBack fault. You can try test version as well. Yep, fixed this. Say if you want more improvements to high contrast theme.ace2 , please remove your posts, they're no use to me.

StartIsBack license is for a lifetime. More details June 26th.Test Build 2: https://moot.it/startisback Seems that moot.it sucks.

Sure. But what purpose except "wow I can search from taskbar like Mac OS X"?

Can't share the details about 8.1 until 8.1 releases and I try it. Please wait a few days.

Fixed this. Known issue. Start button should be redone for 8.1 anyway.

Mainly because All Programs button will be 'hanging' in the white space on the half of the menu.ace2, you can unleash your mad skills here now: https://moot.it/startisback

New StartIsBack! StartIsBack has been reborn and you can taste it now! https://moot.it/startisback Yet it won't excite you; it is (should be) exactly like version 2.1. It won't function properly on Windows 8.1 yet. There is no 8.1 yet to start with... This is build just for testing which will evolve into new StartIsBack for Windows 8.1. Not sure how to name it. Try keeping discussion on that forum; not sure if it's good enough.

You have quite an eye I must say. I'm slowing down PCs and painting algorithms to notice that.

That's quite possible since painting is redone in this version. Updated for double-buffering; please retest. And I promise i'll return to different heights issue - eventually. Well, this still looks confusing and skins don't quite allow that. I'll try to think of something.

Updated toy: various minor fixes and improvements. I think I'm done with toy for now. I've completed first integrated StartIsBack.Next alpha build and it rocks - it actually uses less resources than native Windows 8 start menu - less memory, objects, threads, handles, I/O operations. Stay tuned.

OK but how it looks in when you search? All programs button is still visible or what fills the place above search box pane?

I still don't understand how should search (openbox) look when searchbox and logoff haves have different height. Only clipping or holes come to mind. Or you intend to give them same height in their search state? Yep, confirmed this. Top margin for folders pane should be added to userpic height then. That could happen on Windows 7. Don't see this. Don't see this either. Yep.

I've added legacy userpic loading (if domain joined only). The rest of Windows 8 does not pick it though; i guess there should be some new tool for setting picture via .accountpicture-ms.

Is it just height or width too? How does/should search view look with different heights? That's strange because it should. Currently it reads only bottom one. Yes, animations are bit different but they're smoother than native ones. Blending is done in separate thread to improve responsiveness.

Remove your walls of text, ace2. Better test which start menu policies do not work in toy which work in native menu. Updated toy - Removed pane size restrictions - Built-in basic style for high contrast theme (test) - Userpic context menu (Windows 8) - Legacy userpic is loaded if PC is domain joined

Press ctrl-alt-delete, choose Start Task Manager, then File - Run, press Browse, find the downloaded startisback setup exe, press OK.