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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Finally someone who thinks it's as cool as I do. BTW, when using the VORAPIS script, you should take care not to break the script with filters or filter lists. For example, the "GoodbyeAds-YouTube-AdBlock-Filter" filter list makes the script unusable. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, they have such an extension. I downloaded it from the (also crappy) Discord, which was rather a torture , and installed it in New Moon 28. It works in the same way the script already does but the search box issue of course still exists. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
In New Moon 28, this issue is shown in the Web Console as: TypeError: 'referrerPolicy' member of RequestInit 'strict-origin-when-cross-origin' is not a valid value for enumeration ReferrerPolicy. Vorapis.user.js:54:115522 In the row 54 and column 115522 of the VORAPIS script (it's the space between return and fetch), one can find the problem. The fetch command can't be executed successfully due to a problem with the ReferrerPolicy. function(e){return fetch("https://suggestqueries-clients6.youtube.com/complete/search?client=youtube&hl=en&gl=ro&sugexp=uqap13nhwmi22%2Cytpo.bo.me%3D1%2Cytposo.bo.me%3D1%2Cytpo.bo.ro.mi%3D24463643%2Cytposo.bo.ro.mi%3D24463643%2Ccfro%3D1%2Cytpo.bo.me%3D0%2Cytposo.bo.me%3D0%2Cytpo.bo.ro.mi%3D24452979%2Cytposo.bo.ro.mi%3D24452979&gs_rn=64&gs_ri=youtube&ds=yt&cp=7&gs_id=r&q="+encodeURIComponent(e)+"&callback=google.sbox.p50", No clue about that. Maybe, @roytam1 knows more as it seems to be an issue related to UXP browsers only. This issue does not occur, for example, in Mypal 68. Furthermore, this issue cannot be caused by the script manager Greasemonkey, because I have installed the VORAPIS extension in Serpent 52, and it also occurs there. And here is a screenshot of this issue taken from the most recent version of New Moon 28 when running the VORAPIS script in the version 0.8.10.26: -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
FreeTube is only available for Windows 10 and later which are of course not older NT-Family OSes. Still an interesting project. But unfortunately not for me as a die-hard Windows XP fan. BTW, I have reported the search box issue of VORAPIS V3 in UXP browsers to their issues on GitHub here: https://github.com/vorapis-yt/v3/issues/15 -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The original YouTube interface is simply crap. YouTube is a perfect example how to continuously update an awesome website to an awful one without considering the users. I've actually hated YouTube for years , but the Project VORAPIS with its old, classic frontend has brought the joy of YouTube back to me. That's the way it was and the way I like. But if VORAPIS V3 doesn't work for you properly for whatever reason, you can also use the extension uTube for watching YouTube videos in UXP browsers in a very resource-saving way. I additionally use uTube in New Moon 28 and Serpent 52. The install.rdf file has to be edited to make uTube compatible with NM and SP, though. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yep! But they are not identical, they are based on these browsers. Strange. On my system, the Project VORAPIS frontend works very well in the UXP browsers except for the completion of the search suggestions. I have even installed the extension in the version 0.8.10.26 in Serpent 52 instead of the userscript. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
And what about New Moon 28? This thread is actually not about Pale Moon. As far as I can see until now, the new Project VORAPIS 0.8.10.26 script seems to work as it should in New Moon 28 and Serpent 52 (and off-topic in Mypal 68) on my Windows XP computer. And BTW, the search box is also working but only shows suggestions in Mypal 68 while typing. So, this is indeed an issue related to UXP browsers which has not been fixed yet. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, I also observed this issue , and no, it is not related to all UXP browsers . I have already installed VORAPIS V3 on Mypal 68, New Moon 28 and Serpent 52. The issue that the video player resets after some time and then all higher resolutions disappear is only related to New Moon 28 (and presumably also to Pale Moon). In Serpent 52, the VORAPIS V3 script works out of the box without this issue. The reason for this issue is the VORAPIS script Vorapis.user.js itself, currently in the version 0.8.9.25, (and also some previous scripts as for example the version 0.8.6.16) which doesn't work properly in New Moon 28. I fixed this issue by using the VORAPIS launcher script patcher.user.js in the version 1.0.8.8 extracted from the webextension "V3 - Get Old YouTube Layout (Launcher)". They show a messsge on the YouTube site that it is not the full version but it is enough for me. Searching and playing videos is working as it should. I removed the blue message box from the frontend with uBO. The Project VORAPIS script has been updated today to the version 0.8.10.26. The issue that the video player resets after some time and then all higher resolutions disappear in New Moon 28 seems to have been fixed. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, I also observed this issue , and no, it is not related to all UXP browsers . I have already installed VORAPIS V3 on Mypal 68, New Moon 28 and Serpent 52. The issue that the video player resets after some time and then all higher resolutions disappear is only related to New Moon 28 (and presumably also to Pale Moon). In Serpent 52, the VORAPIS V3 script works out of the box without this issue. The reason for this issue is the VORAPIS script Vorapis.user.js itself, currently in the version 0.8.9.25, (and also some previous scripts as for example the version 0.8.6.16) which doesn't work properly in New Moon 28. I fixed this issue by using the VORAPIS launcher script patcher.user.js in the version 1.0.8.8 extracted from the webextension "V3 - Get Old YouTube Layout (Launcher)". They show a messsge on the YouTube site that it is not the full version but it is enough for me. Searching and playing videos is working as it should. I removed the blue message box from the frontend with uBO. -
I can't confirm your statement. VORAPIS V3 works perfectly on my very old Windows XP computer. I simply installed it without any special settings. Very, very fast and responsive frontend, resource-friendly and fully functional video playback. Have a look at here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/?do=findComment&comment=1273034
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I only tested such an extension for the UXP browsers called MTube. But I didn't like it. The extension uTube was and is much better. At the moment, I am totally fine with the VORAPIS V3 extension for Mypal 68.
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Maybe, Chromium-based browsers don't have the same "issues" with YouTube playback. However, these browsers play YouTube videos much worse than the Mozilla-based ones under Windows XP on my machine. Thorium and 360Chrome are browser which play YouTube videos at worst on my old Windows XP computer.
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The modern YouTube interface is simply crap. uBlock Origin is usually not the causer for any problems with YouTube , rather the opposite is the case. To watch videos on YouTube in old browsers (and despite all the improvements, Mypal 68 is still an old browser), one has to use extensions and/or userscripts to make them work. This and some already discussed measures are the reason why YouTube runs well again for me in Mypal 68.14.4b, even on my ancient computer from 2000.
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Thanks for the hint! The YouTube interface of VORAPIS V3 is very responsive and lightweight, though. The complete YouTube page with the demanded video, playlist and comments is loaded very fast, even on my old machine. Only some seconds. The original, non-manipulated, junk interface is almost unusable on my computer.
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@Tomcat76, @GH0st Yeah, I got the same problems!! My computer specs are Intel Pentium Northwood 2.80 GHz CPU (single core, 32 Bit), 1.5 GB SD-RAM and a NVIDIA GeForce 6200 graphic card, so much, much, much weaker than yours. I found a solution to get back the old 2013 layout of YouTube which is very resource-saving, loads quickly and revives the old YouTube feeling. The solution is VORAPIS V3. I use the most recent development build of the extension in Mypal 68 from this link https://vorapis.pages.dev/#/home/download instead of the version from the Mozilla page https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/v3-get-old-youtube-layout/. Now, I can finally access videos on the YouTube page in Mypal 68.14.4b again and watch them in 360p quality on my very old machine. This is a screenshot of the classic YouTube interface restored by VORAPIS V3 when a video is played in Mypal 68.14.4b:: In general, the quality 360p is all that is possible with my old hardware to watch videos fluently in browsers. The YouTube tab consumes round about 170 MB. I think that is less for the crappy YouTube. On your computers, Mypal 68.14.4b should actually play videos easily in much higher quality than 360p. If not, then your current configurations don't seem to be done properly.
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Of course, it is not related to the rebase of DLL files. I didn't claim that either. It is an old, well-known problem that, however, can be curbed, but only in multiprocess mode. In single-process mode, considerably more memory is not released after tabs are closed, at least on my system. Anyway! There is more to be done to free up memory. One measure I already recommended is the periodical memory minimisation which should be done automatically.
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Regarding the UXP browsers, I stopped using full themes or extensions that change the GUI a long time ago to avoid unnecessary CPU load and negative effects. If I notice that an extension is putting a strain on the browser, it is uninstalled immediately.
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Here is a review of Huorong Internet Security v6: https://malwaretips.com/threads/huorong-internet-security-v6-finale.132002/ And the test results are rather disastrous. There is still a lot of room for improvement. So I can't agree with your assessment.
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Legacy browsers like New Moon 28 and Serpent are totally moddable, and their extensions are not neutered as is the case with webextensions. Fortunately, I have made significant modifications in Mypal 68 to remove many restrictions. Extensions and themes no longer need to be signed, and my legacy custom buttons are not subject to any restrictions. All this can't be done easily or at all with modern browsers.
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Have you also checked this tip? You know the proof is in the pudding. The scan engine vsapi32.dll in the version 22.610.0.1017 inside the attk_ScanCleanOffline_gui_x86.exe file does not work properly in Trend Micro Sysclean. In my test scan, this engine leads to errors documented in the report.log file. However, the scan engine vsapi32.dll in the version 21.600.0.1007 inside this archive does the trick: http://files.trendmicro.com/products/engine/VSAPI/21600/dll/VSAPI-NT-DLL-21.600-1007.ZIP Please correct this in your post, too! After performing a scan, the report isn't displayed by the tool. You have to open the report.log file manually. All in all, I don't like this tool. It's too old and does not directly show information about the scan process. Furthermore, too less features and only a very few options. But it is indeed able to scan files even today. And the most recent pattern files are still compatible with this old tool.
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@dmiranda All your download links for pattern files are not working. For example, your link https://downloadcenter.trendmicro.com/index.php?clk=tab_pattern&clkval=31®s=uk for the spyware pattern file does not do anything. The correct link has to be: https://downloadcenter.trendmicro.com/index.php?clk=tab_pattern&clkval=31®s=nabu&lang_loc=1 where you can download the file ssaptn763.zip by this link: https://www.trendmicro.com/ftp/products/aupattern/spyware_ssaptn/ssaptn763.zip Please correct all your links so that they are really working! After first launch of the sysclean.com file and copying all extracted files to another location, the trick to avoid deleting all files inside the Sysclean folder is to always start the tool by applying the file sysclean.exe instead of sysclean.com.
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@dmiranda I have listed Trend Micro Sysclean first of all in the third post of this thread: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184730-antimalware-firewall-and-other-security-programs-for-windows-xp-working-in-2023-and-hopefully-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=1244366
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@George King I have listed Huorong Internet Security first of all in the third post of this thread: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184730-antimalware-firewall-and-other-security-programs-for-windows-xp-working-in-2023-and-hopefully-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=1244366
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Thanks for the reminder and further information! You had already mentioned Huorong Internet Security here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184730-antimalware-firewall-and-other-security-programs-for-windows-xp-working-in-2023-and-hopefully-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=1256082 Unfortunately, no-one except you and me had provided any further information about this programme. It has therefore been forgotten again due to a general lack of interest as usual. What I personally don't like about this manufacturer is the homepage, which is apparently only available in Chinese. And even the downloadable manuals are only in Chinese. Online translators still have problems with Chinese. Google translated Huorong as Tinder. On purpose or by chance? I do not hope Huorong is Tinder related. And the few tests that I have briefly looked through are not particularly positive either. Except for the fact that it is compatible with Windows XP, which is of course great. Long story short. What about storage space, RAM utilisation, processor load and detection rates?
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