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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yep! But I don't know why and what they do. This turbolauncher 2.0.9.9 extension also works for me in New Moon 28. So, I can't confirm your statement. If you use it in Pale Moon and probably also in the 64-bit version of Pale Moon, then it may well be that the extension does not work, at least what I read in the Discord thread. Under Windows XP 32-bit, the VORAPIS V3 scipt and the corresponding extensions work in New Moon 28, Serpent 52 and Mypal 68. I haven't tested so far other browsers. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
No. Maybe. For me, normal password does not work anymore in Mailnews but only in the web interface. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Today, I also tried to change my old Hotmail/Outlook account from normal password, which no longer works in Mailnews, to OAuth2. Unfortunately, the popup window was somewhat broken. No button for applying and no description where to insert inputs. Here is a screenshot from this broken OAuth2 popup window: -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
When I pasted your link into the address bar, this was the link I got. No more, no less. But more interesting is whether it now works for you or not. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thank you for your willingness to try it! Would be really great if you had success. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The YouTube website https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/videos?cbrd=1 works properly with the VORAPIS V3 script in New Moon 28. And yes, this userscript actually works without any additional instructions. Here is a screenshot: I guess you did something wrong, or you are using incompatible filters which interferes with the script. The message "Warning: Content Security Policy: Couldn’t process unknown directive ‘require-trusted-types-for’" is not relevant for your issue but the error message "Error: TypeError: NetworkError when attempting to fetch resource". Which browser do you use for the script? Please, test the script in a new, clean profile! And install this Greasemonkey version in New Moon 28: https://github.com/janekptacijarabaci/greasemonkey/releases/download/3.31.4Fork/greasemonkey-3.31.4-pm_forkBranch.xpi Additionally, check your network settings and for testing purpose, disable your adblocker if you use one! And ensure that no security software is blocking the script! -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
If links are broken here in @roytam1's posts, you can directly download the files from his server https://o.rthost.win/, only if they really exist there, of course. I have just downloaded them, and they are definitely there. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I assume "shoehorning the patch" means adapting the patch for UXP browsers and being able to insert it. I really hope it is possible and that it works. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Any chance to get it into the UXP codebase? -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Finally someone who thinks it's as cool as I do. BTW, when using the VORAPIS script, you should take care not to break the script with filters or filter lists. For example, the "GoodbyeAds-YouTube-AdBlock-Filter" filter list makes the script unusable. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, they have such an extension. I downloaded it from the (also crappy) Discord, which was rather a torture , and installed it in New Moon 28. It works in the same way the script already does but the search box issue of course still exists. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
In New Moon 28, this issue is shown in the Web Console as: TypeError: 'referrerPolicy' member of RequestInit 'strict-origin-when-cross-origin' is not a valid value for enumeration ReferrerPolicy. Vorapis.user.js:54:115522 In the row 54 and column 115522 of the VORAPIS script (it's the space between return and fetch), one can find the problem. The fetch command can't be executed successfully due to a problem with the ReferrerPolicy. function(e){return fetch("https://suggestqueries-clients6.youtube.com/complete/search?client=youtube&hl=en&gl=ro&sugexp=uqap13nhwmi22%2Cytpo.bo.me%3D1%2Cytposo.bo.me%3D1%2Cytpo.bo.ro.mi%3D24463643%2Cytposo.bo.ro.mi%3D24463643%2Ccfro%3D1%2Cytpo.bo.me%3D0%2Cytposo.bo.me%3D0%2Cytpo.bo.ro.mi%3D24452979%2Cytposo.bo.ro.mi%3D24452979&gs_rn=64&gs_ri=youtube&ds=yt&cp=7&gs_id=r&q="+encodeURIComponent(e)+"&callback=google.sbox.p50", No clue about that. Maybe, @roytam1 knows more as it seems to be an issue related to UXP browsers only. This issue does not occur, for example, in Mypal 68. Furthermore, this issue cannot be caused by the script manager Greasemonkey, because I have installed the VORAPIS extension in Serpent 52, and it also occurs there. And here is a screenshot of this issue taken from the most recent version of New Moon 28 when running the VORAPIS script in the version 0.8.10.26: -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
FreeTube is only available for Windows 10 and later which are of course not older NT-Family OSes. Still an interesting project. But unfortunately not for me as a die-hard Windows XP fan. BTW, I have reported the search box issue of VORAPIS V3 in UXP browsers to their issues on GitHub here: https://github.com/vorapis-yt/v3/issues/15 -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The original YouTube interface is simply crap. YouTube is a perfect example how to continuously update an awesome website to an awful one without considering the users. I've actually hated YouTube for years , but the Project VORAPIS with its old, classic frontend has brought the joy of YouTube back to me. That's the way it was and the way I like. But if VORAPIS V3 doesn't work for you properly for whatever reason, you can also use the extension uTube for watching YouTube videos in UXP browsers in a very resource-saving way. I additionally use uTube in New Moon 28 and Serpent 52. The install.rdf file has to be edited to make uTube compatible with NM and SP, though. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yep! But they are not identical, they are based on these browsers. Strange. On my system, the Project VORAPIS frontend works very well in the UXP browsers except for the completion of the search suggestions. I have even installed the extension in the version 0.8.10.26 in Serpent 52 instead of the userscript. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
And what about New Moon 28? This thread is actually not about Pale Moon. As far as I can see until now, the new Project VORAPIS 0.8.10.26 script seems to work as it should in New Moon 28 and Serpent 52 (and off-topic in Mypal 68) on my Windows XP computer. And BTW, the search box is also working but only shows suggestions in Mypal 68 while typing. So, this is indeed an issue related to UXP browsers which has not been fixed yet. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, I also observed this issue , and no, it is not related to all UXP browsers . I have already installed VORAPIS V3 on Mypal 68, New Moon 28 and Serpent 52. The issue that the video player resets after some time and then all higher resolutions disappear is only related to New Moon 28 (and presumably also to Pale Moon). In Serpent 52, the VORAPIS V3 script works out of the box without this issue. The reason for this issue is the VORAPIS script Vorapis.user.js itself, currently in the version 0.8.9.25, (and also some previous scripts as for example the version 0.8.6.16) which doesn't work properly in New Moon 28. I fixed this issue by using the VORAPIS launcher script patcher.user.js in the version 1.0.8.8 extracted from the webextension "V3 - Get Old YouTube Layout (Launcher)". They show a messsge on the YouTube site that it is not the full version but it is enough for me. Searching and playing videos is working as it should. I removed the blue message box from the frontend with uBO. The Project VORAPIS script has been updated today to the version 0.8.10.26. The issue that the video player resets after some time and then all higher resolutions disappear in New Moon 28 seems to have been fixed. -
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AstroSkipper replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, I also observed this issue , and no, it is not related to all UXP browsers . I have already installed VORAPIS V3 on Mypal 68, New Moon 28 and Serpent 52. The issue that the video player resets after some time and then all higher resolutions disappear is only related to New Moon 28 (and presumably also to Pale Moon). In Serpent 52, the VORAPIS V3 script works out of the box without this issue. The reason for this issue is the VORAPIS script Vorapis.user.js itself, currently in the version 0.8.9.25, (and also some previous scripts as for example the version 0.8.6.16) which doesn't work properly in New Moon 28. I fixed this issue by using the VORAPIS launcher script patcher.user.js in the version 1.0.8.8 extracted from the webextension "V3 - Get Old YouTube Layout (Launcher)". They show a messsge on the YouTube site that it is not the full version but it is enough for me. Searching and playing videos is working as it should. I removed the blue message box from the frontend with uBO. -
I can't confirm your statement. VORAPIS V3 works perfectly on my very old Windows XP computer. I simply installed it without any special settings. Very, very fast and responsive frontend, resource-friendly and fully functional video playback. Have a look at here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/?do=findComment&comment=1273034
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I only tested such an extension for the UXP browsers called MTube. But I didn't like it. The extension uTube was and is much better. At the moment, I am totally fine with the VORAPIS V3 extension for Mypal 68.
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Maybe, Chromium-based browsers don't have the same "issues" with YouTube playback. However, these browsers play YouTube videos much worse than the Mozilla-based ones under Windows XP on my machine. Thorium and 360Chrome are browser which play YouTube videos at worst on my old Windows XP computer.
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The modern YouTube interface is simply crap. uBlock Origin is usually not the causer for any problems with YouTube , rather the opposite is the case. To watch videos on YouTube in old browsers (and despite all the improvements, Mypal 68 is still an old browser), one has to use extensions and/or userscripts to make them work. This and some already discussed measures are the reason why YouTube runs well again for me in Mypal 68.14.4b, even on my ancient computer from 2000.
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Thanks for the hint! The YouTube interface of VORAPIS V3 is very responsive and lightweight, though. The complete YouTube page with the demanded video, playlist and comments is loaded very fast, even on my old machine. Only some seconds. The original, non-manipulated, junk interface is almost unusable on my computer.
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@Tomcat76, @GH0st Yeah, I got the same problems!! My computer specs are Intel Pentium Northwood 2.80 GHz CPU (single core, 32 Bit), 1.5 GB SD-RAM and a NVIDIA GeForce 6200 graphic card, so much, much, much weaker than yours. I found a solution to get back the old 2013 layout of YouTube which is very resource-saving, loads quickly and revives the old YouTube feeling. The solution is VORAPIS V3. I use the most recent development build of the extension in Mypal 68 from this link https://vorapis.pages.dev/#/home/download instead of the version from the Mozilla page https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/v3-get-old-youtube-layout/. Now, I can finally access videos on the YouTube page in Mypal 68.14.4b again and watch them in 360p quality on my very old machine. This is a screenshot of the classic YouTube interface restored by VORAPIS V3 when a video is played in Mypal 68.14.4b:: In general, the quality 360p is all that is possible with my old hardware to watch videos fluently in browsers. The YouTube tab consumes round about 170 MB. I think that is less for the crappy YouTube. On your computers, Mypal 68.14.4b should actually play videos easily in much higher quality than 360p. If not, then your current configurations don't seem to be done properly.
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