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I would add, as a corollary to puntoMX's experience/report , how you never actually print "decently" in colours. I mean apart from the nice (and quick) colour prints you can get from a "normal" Laser colour printer, let's say some Excel graphs, or similar, most of the people thought that having a colour printer was cool to print photos/pictures economically. This has never happened (at least for me), what happens is that either you do print very often photos, and you have a "dedicated" and suitable printer for them (which usually resolves in a real life cost per print at the same level as the "better" commercial printing services) or you print a photo from time to time, in which case you make at the very least three tests on "common paper", and when you think to have got right the colours/saturation/etc. you try on the "special" photographic paper that obviously gives a different result, so you have to adjust it again to finally print something as it should be, with an average of 5 (five) prints for each printed photo, three on normal paper and two on glossy paper, at an overall cost that is three times the cost of a commercial printing service, more or less. Additionally, when you finally got everything fine and the stupid inkjet is slowly - ohh so slowly - printing the "final" photo at around 3/4 or 4/5 of the print one of the colour cartridges will either clog or simply be suddenly empty and you will have to start again after having procured a replacement, which will either NOT be available (remember this happens usually on friday evenings or during the weekend) or - since you are a smart peep - be available because you did buy a spare, but it will be old, and dried out and clogged, and you will ruin an additional couple of prints before the cartridge will start printing fine. So, get a laser, actually get a B/W Laser[1]. Leave colour to the pro's. jaclaz [1]Please understand that even if you can afford a colour laser (which is a nice device in itself) you will spend a fortune on colour cartridges anyway because nowadays almost anything you print does have - even if very often not really needed in the printout - colours, and even without ever printing intentionally colour pages your colour toner will be used up by these "common" and "unwanted" colour prints.

I am still failing to see the actual practical use of this command, I mean is it to be included in a batch file or - as it seems - it is intended to be typed on the command line? jaclaz

That kb is a known troublemaker, compare with: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/162483-trouble-with-nlite-and-lots-of-added-software/ jaclaz

Sure , but the link xper posted, unless I missed it, is specifically about KB3033929 and about it only. and as such unrelated. jaclaz

In an nutshell you are advertising this specific adapter because you are happy and proud to have spent like 3 to 5 (three to five) times what is the normal cost of one of one of the cheap but still perfectly working adapters ? However, JFYI, the nice Greek guys that sell them had just rebated them on e-bay to US $23.99 (from the original US $29.99), possibly because of the exceptional success of the initiative, having sold 21 of them and with only 6 left to go though of course the research and development costs on this product which arrives on the market a mere 6 (six) years after all the rest of the world have started fixing with success these drives through "an unclear solution that you read on some forum with a cheap adapter from China" (their words, not mine): must be compensated somehow, but advertising that product here, on the home of the "unclear solution"? jaclaz

You are not missing it , it simply does not exist , the whole point of the game, when played outside common rules, is to continuously shift the actual question towards something else at each iteration. Technically this is often referred to as "Ninja Point" : The original question made some sense, but as soon as a "normal" solution (actually two) were proposed, the question became different (having no actual practical use) and I suspect that even the modified question has very little in common with the actual goal/expected result/intended use, hence the reference to the xyz issue. jaclaz

@Trip To clarify, this topic is about booting from a CD/DVD like device (actually physically rendered by the particular feature of some USB sticks that offer two devices or LUN's, the first one or LUN0 emulating a CD/DVD - Read Only - device) *everything* (and the kitchen sink ) on *any* machine, but limited to: This is NOT about booting and running a "full" Windows from a CD/DVD like device, the interchange till now has been between WinPE and Windows (Install/Setup) which is a WinPE to all effects, no hard disk like device or partition on it is involved or harmed in the making of this (yet), if not the APM partition seemingly needed for a given range of macs, but still a partition residing on the CD/DVD like device. jaclaz

Not yet. Till now the usual screenplay has been followed to the letter: someone asks something about batch jaclaz provides a possible solution Yzöwl provides another (often better) one at this point normally Gunsmokingman enters the scene and posts a .vbs to the same effect of the batches/snippets posted earlier, this time since the topic seems to be "strictly" batch, this might not happen that would be a twist to the story... jaclaz

Well, you may ask there if that fix they have there is the "right" one or ask here if this fix we have here is the right one. Seriously, the fix is always the same, though it may be worded or explained in a better or worse way. For obvious reasons , I would suggest you to read first the READ ME FIRST: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/143880-seagate-barracuda-720011-read-me-first/ AND the FGA's: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/147532-fga-for-the-seagate-720011-drives/ then leave alone EACH AND EVERY guide, tutorial, video you can find elsewhere and follow CarterinCanada's guide: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/133387-debricking-the-seagate-drives/ as it is, to the best of my knowledge the most accurate and easy to follow. And yes the "not detected" in BIOS may be caused by the known "busy" or "BSY" issue, and since you have the SD15 firmware it is also likely to be that the cause. jaclaz

@kyvaith With all due respect your post is confusing. Please edit/reformat your post, adding to EACH of the methods you tried a number like (example): Test #1: Command issued: Other needed info: [1] As an example etfsboot.com is ....., efysis_noprompt.bin is, the contents of the root are ..... Result (BIOS platform): [2] OK, but boot directly to Windows Result (UEFI platform): [2] OK, but boot directly to Windows So that maybe we can reference each of your nice tests properly. And the actual tests that you should have made with mkisofs are the ones along the lines of what cdob suggested, usually there are reasons for what he suggests . jaclaz [1] some of the command lines you posted or their result make NO SENSE unless it is detailed what the involved files are [2] here also you might be more explicit, and together with the info provided in [1] this "OK, Windows boot from GRUB2 menu (bootmgfw.efi), but don't boot from legacy" might become understandable (as is I cannot understand it )

... or the differences in the actual OS drivers for the filesystems, unrelated , but JFYI : http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/125116-fat16-vs-fat32-vs-ntfs-speed-on-usb-stick/ jaclaz

Well, you are in the (common BTW) issue of mis-communicating, the known xyz or the chocolate covered banana: http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/put-down-the-chocolate-covered-banana.html You want to reach a goal, but you do not specify it and ask a question related to a tiny bit of what you believe to be the way to reach that goal (which may or may not the "right" way) However try: CMD V:ON /Q /C "SET "FN=FolderName" &FOR /F "tokens=2 delims==" %%A IN ('SET FN') DO ECHO "%%A""jaclaz

I will dare to guess that 2000/XP/2003 users would be not only unaffected but also pretty much indifferent by the troubles a Windows 7/Server 2008 update may cause .... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3033929/en-us jaclaz

Try: @ECHO OFFSETLOCAL ENABLEEXTENSIONSSET "FN=FolderName" & ECHO "%FN%"PAUSESET FN=CALL SET "FN=FolderName" & FOR /F "Tokens=2 delims==" %%A IN ('SET FN') DO ECHO "%%A"PAUSESET FN=SETLOCAL ENABLEDELAYEDEXPANSIONSET "FN=FolderName" & ECHO "!FN!"PAUSE jaclaz

Great to have you here Just for the record, for those that think that UDF specs are too easy , I would suggest the UEFI ones (all the 2200+ pages of it) jaclaz

A word of caution. The fact that it can be done (and that it is a rare case that something goes wrong with the procedure) does not really-really mean that it should be done or that it is in any way smart to do that. The process - more or less - consists in: take the contents of a small area of the device and move it somewhere else on the same device to make some space for the NTFS filesystem structures create the filesystem structures move the contents of a small area of the device to somewhere else index these contents loop to #3 n times until finishedMore or less it is a sort of defrag on steroids and consider how AFAIK everyone in the world that ever made the conversion from FAT16 or from FAT32 to NTFS did it successfully on a largely empty volume, and not on a filled up to the brim one. Now what could go wrong on a complex defrag on a USB stick?: a blackout overheating of the stick unless it is a fastish USB 3 device it will take a loooong time excessive wear of the device and/or some conflicts with the internal wear leveling algorithms something elseI would advise to not take this route, unless you have (as you should have in my perverted mind) a verified backup of the data, but then if you have it, you can directly re-format the stick and restore the data. jaclaz

This is where I am failing to follow you. Do you mean that a "modern Mac" or a "modern PC" does not boot a CD/DVD device "normally" as El-Torito no-emulation mode (+if needed "alt-boot" volumes in "plain" CDFS, i.e. without isohybridizing anything? The threads you initially referenced here and on reboot.pro were about such particular kind of CD's, that were not isohybridized, if I recall correctly. jaclaz

@NoelC ... and you should see the automatic machine translation to italian page I land to[1]! #Trip Just in case, a nice collection of the classic ones is here: http://www.jazzkeyboard.com/jill/qarticles.html A few particularly funy ones being highlighed here: http://reboot.pro/topic/3541-how-many-microsoft-programmers-does-it-take-to-screw-in-a-light-bulb/ My all-time personal preference is probably this little pearl, that I imagine as a line for Mr. Spock in Star Trek (BTW, may MR. Nimpoy R.I.P. ): http://support.microsoft.com/kb/835840/EN-GB/ jaclaz [1]The good thing is that these translations (when they actually contain some info) are so patently wrong and absurd that it is unlikely that they will cause damages, as noone will be able to follow them based on the translation

I already lost you. (on the theory before the practice) I can understand (though I know nothing of it ) the APM (for the "old MACs"), but what is the *need* or *use* of the GPT? jaclaz

I would dare to say that even just assigning a FIXED KB number (and corresponding page/link "placeholder") would be a very simple step forward. The message JorgeA reported: Could well become (say ): jaclaz

... or both. jaclaz

... unless you want to try prying SequoiaView from my dead hands... http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/onderzoek_informatica/visualization/sequoiaview// http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/onderzoek_informatica/visualization/sequoiaview/download_sequoiaview/ The Author of the mentioned article - with all due respect - from the photo seems like he was in kindergarten when the good guys at the University of Eindhoven released the final version, which is a sign I am getting really old , at this rate I may even get older than bphlpt himself jaclaz

It is rather obvious, but I wanted bphlpt to research on the matter, technically those Zalman (which has BTW gone on the verge of bankrupt in the meantime ;(): http://www.geek.com/chips/zalman-is-not-going-bankrupt-restructuring-under-way-1609996/ are much more sophisticated, dedicated solutions (those and some more listed here): http://reboot.pro/topic/8944-boot-any-iso-image-or-boot-all-iso-images/ I read your current issue more as "forget about the use I will make later of this, how can I make a DVD or a DVD-like image that will be compatible with 1, 2, 3 etc. and booting on *any* machine including BIOS/UEFI?". What I need to be able to try and help you is: how EXACTLY (by EXACTLY I mean which specific xorriso version you are using, on which specific os with which EXACT command lines) you are now creating the .iso hopefully a copy of the (empty, I don't need/want the actual files) pre-made .iso Explanation: I have NO idea how xorriso works and it came out just when I thought that no tool on earth could have a more complex and worse documented set of command options than mkisofs, clearly proving me wrong I am NOT familiar with the whatever APM is and what actually an old Mac would *need*So, the only chances (provided that xorriso cannot definitely create a UDF filesystem or actually *whatever* stupid UEFI Windows *needs*) are some ways (if any) to post-process the .iso modifying it. BEFORE the above, can you try creating a "normal" (or at least "normal according to MS") BIOS/UEFI install cd/dvd using the OSCDIMG tool as detailed here and see if "as is" it works on your test systems?: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/172122-got-tips-on-how-to-make-a-bootable-cd-from-bootable-usb/ http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/172122-got-tips-on-how-to-make-a-bootable-cd-from-bootable-usb/?p=1080928 jaclaz

As soon as you will find a USB bridge for a hard disk that allows two LUN's of which one (the first) being a CD/DVD like device , I am sure that the info will be useful to port the method/approach on a USB hard disk ... Seriously, some (most) USB stick controllers have the possibility of exposing themselves to the BIOS/OS as a "combo" device with two LUN's (you remember good ol' SCSI? ), the second can only be a "hard disk like" device, the first one can usually be eithe a "hd like" device or a "CD/DVD like" device, see these: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/121199-formating-a-usb-stick-to-udf-or-cdfs/ http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/150653-booting-windows-on-multi-partition-usb-flash-drive/ http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/121502-install-xp-from-usb-the-easy-way-with-sandisk-cruzer/ jaclaz

Yep, the disk is seen as having 512 bytes/sector, i.e. it is one or the other versions of AF/512e. The syntax (not the most friendly around) of rawcopy you can get with "rawcopy /?". But the principle is simple, that tool (many others will probably do, but I know this behaviour of this particular one) is that programs that operate on block devices can only retrieve a single block or a multiple of it. The attempt for 511 bytes is only useful to make sure that the tool works as expected on your system (as no device will have a block size smaller than 512 bytes, with the exception possibly of a few arcane, ancient and obsolete floppy drives). The result of 512 bytes being actually 512 confirms that your device is seen as 512 bytes/sector. The result of 4095 bytes being actually 3584 makes this a certainty, as 7*512=3584 is the most the tool can get until it "steps" to 4096. The result of 4096 is "normal", you would have the same 4096 result on both a 512 and a 4096 bytes/sector device. The "size on disk" means "nothing" (or "next to nothing", I can now say that your c:\ drive has a cluster size of 4096 bytes , and most probably it is thus using a NTFS filesystem ). The "issues" come on the WMIC output: TotalSectors=3519054315->3519054315*512=1801755809280 Size=1801755809280 TotalTracks=55858005 TotalCylinders=219051 TracksPerCylinder=255 SectorsPerTrack=63 219051*255=55858005*63=3519054315 Somehow the disk is seen as being around 1.8 Tb in size. this may (or may not, it is to be seen) the show-stopper. It's time for you to start (if I were you I would first try in XP, and only later, if successful, go back to the Win2k) experimenting with http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ jaclaz