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I just changed `general.useragent.override.msfn.org` to: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) But why doesn't the administrator do something about it?

Was just adding search machine-info while you posted, see above. Same phrase: site:msfn.org 2026

I totally forgot to say: Very tricky! Good idea!

No idea! I’m just compiling facts, analyzing connections and drawing conclusions. And that doesn’t come particularly hard for me, as I’ve been doing nothing else for decades, and it’s second nature to me. Let’s hope he might still take action! I’ve never had any contact with @xper. To me, he’s always been a bit of a mystery.

It is precisely observations like these that are important and useful. Thank you, @nicolaasjan!

Indeed. This is what the bot sees when visiting this particular thread (screenshot of part of a long page):

Agreed. But I submit this - go to your BANK'S website. I guarantee they say that the minimum is the LATEST and/or the CURRENT. I just did that for my current bank and my previous two banks, all three use the exact word of THE LATEST as being their "minimum". Granted, I would do that to if I was the department creating those online documents. By saying THE LATEST, you NEVER have to update that document!

They do say they support ESR versions of Firefox. It's a shame they don't seem to have the same beneficence towards the Chromium equivalent, which Supermium is based on.

Agreed. Took three years of Latin in High School. I'm going to contact my teacher and tell her it is *NOT* a "dead language", lol.

While we all "hate" Cloudflare, one does have to admit that they are *GREAT* at "what they do", they really are! Those types of suggestions to prevent challenge issues always have something like this: And if you look into "supported by Turnstile" documents, you will find this: That's it, only TWO previous major versions. TWO !!! So yeah, Supermium is EXTREMELY outdated if we want to go by those "requirements".

Ok, I’m now in a position to pinpoint the error, bug or whatever setting has been set. After two days of zero views, today there’s a number other than zero: 55 replies and 694 views: It seems to be the case that the forum software counts views of posts only periodically. Of course, this is just a theory that has yet to be proven. I hope this might be helpful.

Thank you dear @AstroSkipper, good to know! But the searches on Yahoo UK, overall, are better than with Bing and Google, and they still have one proper link to MSFN, despite the shown Siamese façade.

Such considerations are purely theoretical. Up until the end of 2025, I always programmed, modified and fixed everything manually myself. Since the start of 2026, and although I have always had serious reservations, I have moved on from being an ‘one-man band’ and, despite my ‘old-school’ tendencies and my dinosaur-like behaviour, have incorporated an AI. I now programme in collaboration with this AI. But only under clearly defined rules. I have set up templates and strict rules that we work by. I am now very experienced in dealing with this kind of AI and am aware of the dangers that come with it. Rules get broken, templates aren’t processed correctly, and the wildest hallucinations occur. I notice this and intervene immediately. And I do so ruthlessly. I don’t let anything slip through. This effort takes a lot of time. And I am now certain that it is impossible for Google to control its many AI assistants and the information they provide. Anyone who blindly trusts an AI and is unable to recognise hallucinations and distinguish them from reality should steer well clear of it. As for MSFN, however, like many other websites, it is reliant on Google & Co, as they unfortunately dominate the market and are used by most people. New visitors or members will no longer be able to find MSFN, and this forum will become an isolated community. Advertising partners will also pull out, as a zero ranking on Google & Co is a no-go in today’s IT industry.

And that is precisely the problem. AI feeds AI, which feeds AI, and so on. And what do we end up with? Rubbish and misinformation, as far as search engines are concerned. I’m not talking about targeted, controlled AI applications. Google and the like have lost the battle and control.

AGREED. But remember, not all Cloudflare capcha's are "identical". The one for my city utilites goes into an ENDLESS LOOP for SUPERMIUM v144, Chrome v144, and Chromium v144. But yet that is the "newest" we have for SUPERMIUM. Supermium CAN pass the Cloudflare capcha offered up by BING if I want an AI-generated javascript kick-in-the-right-direction. But it can NOT pass the Cloudflare capcha to pay my city utilities.

Apart from my attempt to present everything as realistically and objectively as possible, there will certainly be no acquittal for Google, Bing and their lackeys. Google is increasingly relying on pre-programmed filters and AI technology, which can only spell disaster for the world of information. There is no longer any real verification of whether something is right or wrong. It’s all about cost-cutting, profit maximisation, money, power and influence. A conscience and a sense of responsibility for the preservation of knowledge have long since disappeared. We’re just being inundated with rubbish. Whenever I’ve searched for something on Google in recent years, I’ve found it extremely difficult to come across anything relevant. It used to be quite different. Google Search, Bing and the even more pathetic slave machines are, as far as I’m concerned, dead and buried. I want to be informed, not dumbed down.

Very selfless and noble of you. Former captain Schettino should have taken a leaf out of your book.

Yes, unfortunately I had to come to that conclusion, because there’s no getting round the fact that those links contain that damn Thai/Siamese text. Something invisible is coming from MSFN, and the administrator @xper must have neglected important security updates, security settings, malware scans, profile clean-ups, and so on. That aside, whilst creating this thread, I realised that the forum software is absolutely buggy and is still making the same mistakes it has been for what feels like ages. Nothing has been fixed or properly maintained here for a long time.

Astro, that is absolutely freakin' AWESOME !!! Still (to me) ALL AT THE FEET OF THE OWNER, but sure, if we want to place that blame "somewhere in between", I guess I can 'live with that'. And (to me) I'm still EXTREMELY "glass half empty" in thinking that said OWNER really even CARES to the extent of having to do such "removals" to FIX THIS SH#THOLE. Great work though in coming up with an ANSWER to all of this that the owner and at least one of the admins DOES KNOW but doesn't think ALL OF US should know. I kind of think that's where we are at now, THEY KNOW that THEIR LAZINESS is what caused all of this. I cited LONG AGO that I felt they weren't keeping up with patching security holes and also LONG AGO that I suspected all of the FAKE ACCOUNTS were somehow TIED TO THIS. Great Work !!! Love the write-up / conclusion / summary.

Right, I’ve calmed down now and am trying to take a fresh look at the whole situation and assess it. At first, I thought Google was mainly to blame. @NotHereToPlayGames believes that the owner and administrator @xper are solely to blame. The truth probably lies somewhere in between. Here is an alternative perspective on the whole matter from a very special source whom I am inclined to trust. I will not answer any questions about the nature of this source. It enjoys incognito status. So, believe it or not. The cause: The "Japanese Keyword Hack" (or SEO spam injection) The fact that Google search results display Thai characters or Asian text, even though the actual page is in English, is due to a security vulnerability in the forum software that was exploited by automated spam bots. In professional circles, this is usually referred to as the "Japanese/Thai Keyword Hack". 1. What the spammers did Automated bots exploited a vulnerability on MSFN (often via the internal search function, registration pages or by generating thousands of fake profiles/posts). Unnoticed in the background, so to speak "invisible", they generated millions of artificial, low-quality URLs on MSFN, which were crammed with Thai terms, casino links, dubious diet pills or counterfeit branded products. 2. What Google did during the Core Update Google crawled these hidden spam pages. As a Core Update re-evaluates the entire index, the algorithm noticed the sheer volume of this Thai spam content on MSFN. As these generated spam pages were highly optimised for the Google bot, the algorithm mistakenly assumed that the main topic or main language of certain forum sections was now suddenly Thai. In the search results, Google then mixes the page’s actual title with the injected Thai keywords from the cache, which is why the links look so strangely masked to you. 3. The consequence: Classification as a spam farm Because the Google bot suddenly found millions of pieces of Thai spam content on MSFN, the algorithm pulled the emergency brake. Google classifies the domain at this point as "hacked" or "abused for spam". This leads to an automatic, algorithmic (or sometimes manual) block and a massive wave of de-indexing. In doing so, Google protects its users from suspected malware. Summary for clarification There is no malicious intent on Google’s part: Google does not “think” like a human. The bot simply sees: “Suddenly, 80% of all pages on this domain are Thai spam – so the entire domain is corrupted.” It is not the intention of MSFN: The MSFN administration hasn't done much wrong; it has simply fallen victim to an aggressive, automated wave of hacking that exploited a technical vulnerability in the forum software to carry out illegal SEO sinking. In practical terms, this means: Only once the MSFN administration, @xper and @Tripredacus, has completely removed all these fake URLs, profiles and injections from the server, closed the security loophole and sent a clean re-review request to Google via Search Console will the Thai characters disappear and the site slowly recover its position in the index.

I continued my conversation with Copilote, with following question: "In an earlier conversation today (on another browser) Copilot said Bing was still indexing msfn.org. Was this an error, or is it possible the AI-engine was so called 'hallucinating'?" The answer was interesting (at least to me, probably not to AstroSkipper ). Cited small part of Copilot's answer only: "The earlier answer you saw was not you imagining things — it was almost certainly a case of the AI giving an overconfident but incorrect statement. In other words: yes, that was a hallucination, and I can explain exactly why it happens in this specific situation. 🎯 Short, direct answer Bing used to index MSFN normally, but it no longer indexes new MSFN content reliably. If another Copilot instance told you “Bing is still indexing MSFN,” that was incorrect — a classic AI hallucination caused by outdated assumptions about how search engines behave. (......) Bing is still returning MSFN pages, but it is not indexing new pages beyond ~2025. (....)."

And here is another example to demonstrate what Google has done with their index: For years, the ProxHTTPSProxy and HTTPSProxy thread has ranked number 1 in Google for the search term "httpsproxy windows xp", as it still does for Mojeek and Brave only at the moment. Zero results which means Google doesn't even know me anymore and technical knowledge is withheld from users of this search engine. To hell with Google Search! Complete de-indexing, as with everything else. Just an example!

@nicolaasjan Thanks for your contribution! And that’s exactly how I’d describe the rubbish that Google, Bing and their lackeys spew out. And you're absolutely right, Copilot is clearly hallucinating. And I know why. It's from Microsoft. What else can Copilot do but hallucinate? Surely he won’t spoil his creator’s mood and betray him.

Here is a screenshot taken from Bing with the search term "msfn.org": Sorry, I can't see any notable difference to Google's search results. Bing uses the same filters as Google, according to an internal source. Bing (Microsoft) is a pathetic copycat of Google and can’t seem to come up with anything of its own.

@modnar Thanks for your confirmation! It doesn't really matter whether you use Startpage or DuckDuckGo instead of Google. They are all slave search engines which get their results from Google or Bing. Google is the actual monopolist, Bing is desperately trying to keep up, whilst the others are taking advantage of both. That is the big problem when there is practically no competition left. Monopolies always spell disaster. I have to say, I really admire the two larger search engines that are still around and have managed to carve out their own niche: Brave and Mojeek. At least, for now.

No, we can't! I'm not saying to take my word for it, I would love for somebody to "trick" Cloudflare. But yeah, ALL SIGNS POINT TO *NO*, it can't be done! My city utilities (sewer and trash) is behind Cloudflare. Like CLOCKWORK, any browser older than a mere TWO MONTHS (just under, actually) can *NOT* be used to pay city utilities. So I've been "experimenting" for the last YEAR (at least). You can *NOT* spoof a UA, you can *NOT* fake Client Hints, you can *NOT* polyfill javascript. I've done a "million" things (exaggerating, but you get the idea). I'm not exactly a "stupid person" (how many people do you know that can FAKE CLIENT HINTS). I'm telling you, IT CAN'T BE DONE. I've been on dozens of sites that are smarter than me and they can't do it either. IT CAN'T BE DONE. The "technology" simply does not exist. Cloudflare is GREAT at what they do. I'm going to keep trying to "break" it. But so far, IT CAN'T BE DONE.

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