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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380f6) - Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b705) - No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8dbcc) - Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d30) - Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90eed4) - Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f0972314) - Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a30) - Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2db8) - Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c99) - Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2b9) - Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e93d) - Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e55655) - Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df2c) - Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc95) - [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a28) - No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8b9) - Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec16) - Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd934f) - Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99ceb) - Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b452c) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dcae6) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff26) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317c3) - Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d63) - Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbdf3) - Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da576) - Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b3048) - Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905afc) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192dd) - layout: plug back alias of -moz-user-select so it won't break pages/extensions relying on this (4c8df426a8) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

I sincerely hope Mr. D.Draker is simply on vacation...

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380) (cfadbb5d6) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b7) (3a0677ec7) - import from UXP: No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8db) (4634fe9d1) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d) (29e601bb8) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90ee) (f49dc1068) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f09723) (13380336f) - import from UXP: - Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a) - Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2d) (f780f6a0c) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c) (0ddba686d) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2) (33497a7bb) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e9) (7e8276dd1) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e556) (5b3195dad) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df) (e92c563a4) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc) (f073823cd) - ported from UXP: [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a) (28bf4bcf2) - ported from UXP: No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8) (4f0690a20) - import from UXP: Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec) (ae483ab3b) - ported from UXP: Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd93) (f7844356c) - ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99c) (55a3af5f7) - ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b45) (9c80beb8f) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dca) (82ff6f599) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff) (2b505c1fd) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317) (db2c8fdb5) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d) (37991f84a) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbd) (477ab51c4) - import from UXP: Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da5) (0ee810368) - import from UXP: Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b30) (0ea914daf) - import from UXP: Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905a) (1b8fbc344) - import from `custom` branch of UXP: gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192) (6129895b4)

I think we have to take Shane's word for it that the patch has been applied to Supermium 132. As I said earlier, it's an ESR version, which surely should be capable of having the patch applied to it, as it should be fully supported until the next ESR version is released. I'm not sure how we can test whether the patch has been applied successfully or not.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

Strange, but it appears that the issue has completely resolved itself.

At least the acronym (BSoD) will still be valid, since both black and blue begin with the letter 'b' c

Then it's a good idea to use the patched ungoogled for Server 2008 R2. No one knows and no one can guarantee how good and when the old 132 Supermium will (ever?) be patched for that serious vulnerability. https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7/releases/tag/ungoogled-chromium_138.0.7204.96 Edit/ They say it's been patched in R5. But in the article they say the patch is for 138+! Contradictory. https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/releases/tag/v132-r5

That was clear, but from what they tell, looks like the patch is intended to be applied only to 138+. Who would write a patch for the old 132, while we are at 140+ already?

Thanks for linking! Unfortunately, such comparisons are not particularly useful. It also depends considerably on other components such as the RAM memory, north and south bridge, the bus clock, the graphics adapter, processor features, hyper-threading and so on.

Not quite true. I use both my old Windows XP computer and my Android tablet for what you call "real work". And in some special cases, a notebook with Windows 7 and Windows 10. But that was not the point here. Anyway! This thread is actually about Mypal 68, and I am happy to confirm that this browser works well on my old hardware. And much better when optimised.

Probably @Cixert assumed, and rightfully so, the double engine of 360 Explorer or something similar would be implemented in Supermium, too.

@win32

You mean ChatGPT suffers a notorious paranoia?

I don't know anything about Python either, but I just uploaded the new `update.py` (with only one line changed) into the GitHub web editor and committed.

... Huh, I see ... This is very puzzling, indeed ; in fact, the "yt-dl.org" domain now auto-redirects to yt-dlp GitHub URLs, e.g. https://yt-dl.org => https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp , which, of course, is a fork of the original youtube-dl project; I think dirkf doesn't have immediate access to the "yt-dl.org" server (wasn't that one blocked in Germany at some point?), so the answer about who arranged the autoredirection to yt-dlp might be possibly found inside the yt-dlp repo itself (too hot here currently for me to check, sorry ) ... I know; however, I have a small list of test commands I issue with fresh releases of both youtube-dl (nightly branch) and yt-dlp (your "Vista" compatible build) and that same list was used to test your 2025.07.11 compile; that was how I noticed the change in behaviour for " -vU" ... As I'm not proficient in Python (quite the opposite, in fact ), that was what I was about to suggest to you ; glad you got it sorted already ... The same with most "yt-dl.org" links contained inside: https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html I know ; I had already modified locally the latest "official" Nightly release (2025.05.05) according to your posted diff on GH; let's hope a py3.4 solution becomes available if evil Google start blocking Chrome > 97 UAs... Best regards !

@VistaLover That's because of line 37 in `./youtube_dl/update.py`. UPDATE_URL = 'https://yt-dl.org/update/' For some reason it redirects to: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/update/ ---> 404. In version 2025.06.26 (and previous versions) I had it set to: UPDATE_URL = 'https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/update/' (also 404, by the way) My version is not supposed to be updated with `-U`. Do you perhaps have any idea how to change `update.py` for my fork to actually make it work with `-U`? [Edit] I think I managed to fix it. Took `update.py` from youtube-dl Nightly as an example. youtube-dl -vU [debug] System config: [] [debug] User config: ['--console-title', '--rm-cache-dir', '-i', '-o', '/dev/shm/test-ytd/%(title)s.%(ext)s', '-f', 'bestvideo[height<=1080][ext=mp4][vcodec^=avc]+bestaudio[ext=m4a]/best[ext=mp4]/best', '--no-mtime', '--embed-thumbnail', '--force-ipv4'] [debug] Custom config: [] [debug] Command-line args: ['-vU'] [debug] Encodings: locale UTF-8, fs utf-8, out utf-8, pref UTF-8 [debug] youtube-dl version 2025.07.12 [debug] Lazy loading extractors enabled [debug] Single file build [debug] Python 3.10.12 (CPython x86_64 64bit) - Linux-5.15.0-143-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.35 - OpenSSL 3.0.2 15 Mar 2022 - glibc 2.35 [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg N-120171-g05094c1749-20250705, ffprobe N-120171-g05094c1749-20250705, rtmpdump 2.4 [debug] Proxy map: {} Latest version: 2025.07.12, Current version: 2025.07.12 youtube-dl is up to date (2025.07.12) Removing cache dir /home/nico/.cache/youtube-dl .. I also don't understand why @dirkf still hasn't updated the Installation section in the Readme. It's a complete mess. BTW, I've made a significant change to `./youtube_dl/utils.py`, as I suggested here. Youtube-dl actually works now.

There's something wrong with the latest (v2025.07.11) youtube-dl.exe build downloaded from GitHub: https://github.com/nicolaasjan/youtube-dl/releases/tag/2025.07.11 https://github.com/nicolaasjan/youtube-dl/releases/download/2025.07.11/youtube-dl.exe youtube-dl -vU => [debug] System config: [] [debug] User config: [] [debug] Custom config: [] [debug] Command-line args: ['-vU'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs mbcs, out cp737, pref cp1253 [debug] youtube-dl version 2025.07.11 [debug] Lazy loading extractors enabled [debug] Single file build [debug] Python 3.4.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 - OpenSSL 1.0.2d 9 Jul 2015 [debug] exe versions: none [debug] Proxy map: {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Users\nico\Desktop\youtube-dl_source\youtube_dl\update.py", line 48, in update_self File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 470, in open File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 580, in http_response File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 502, in error File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 442, in _call_chain File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 685, in http_error_302 File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 470, in open File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 580, in http_response File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 508, in error File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 442, in _call_chain File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 588, in http_error_default urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found ERROR: can't find the current version. Please try again later. The previous compile, of version 2025.06.26: https://github.com/nicolaasjan/youtube-dl/releases/download/2025.06.26/youtube-dl.exe , behaves as expected: youtube-dl -vU => [debug] System config: [] [debug] User config: [] [debug] Custom config: [] [debug] Command-line args: ['-vU'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs mbcs, out cp737, pref cp1253 [debug] youtube-dl version 2025.06.26 [debug] Lazy loading extractors enabled [debug] Single file build [debug] Python 3.4.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 - OpenSSL 1.0.2d 9 Jul 2015 [debug] exe versions: none [debug] Proxy map: {} youtube-dl is up to date (2025.06.26) Many thanks for your ongoing efforts towards maintaining support for "our" older OSes ...

Check out here. While it is still up, anyway :)

So I updated my Vista SP2 x64 to 2016, still no joy. Chromium for Windows 7 by e3kskoy7wqk starts with the same method! Ideas? I don't understand what else CatsXP wants, aren't those both made for win 7?

they did this because they want jemalloc to be integrated into C runtime, which is un-recommended by MS later.

His post is neither useless, nor senseless. Learn to look for before you write your senseless posts It's been confirmed by reputable members of MSFN that those don't work. "This didn't work for me." https://msfn.org/board/topic/186420-mod-for-intel-haswell-4600-hd-graphics-drivers-for-xp/#findComment-1271208 "Edit: After a while (5-8hours) if the PC is not used, the mouse works but I can't open anything that was minimized in the taskbar. I have to restart the PC to get it working again. Did you see this kind of behaviour? I'm using 32bit XP." https://msfn.org/board/topic/186420-mod-for-intel-haswell-4600-hd-graphics-drivers-for-xp/#findComment-1271490

Normally the same as in the PCIe HD graphics card, e.g. AMD HD7450: Audio output from Intel CPU is over HDMI, DP or DVI (DVI only if in bios is function Audio over DVI and you need DVI > DP or DVI > HDMI cable:

Yes, I can. Then leave only one, what stops you? Never heard of XP using two modern cards all at once in one setup troub;e free.

It appears that Windows Defender Updates may not work any longer without the Windows Update service enabled. Tried to enable the update service, and it worked. Turning off the service and trying to update Defender fails with an error now.

I'm glad you like my article. Creating it and making the HTTPSProxies more future-proof was a pleasure for me as a die-hard fan of Windows XP.

You can find the download link for the CAupdater in my main article ProxHTTPSProxy and HTTPSProxy in Windows XP for future use in the section 11.2.4. Downloads related to Root Certificate Updates.

Unlike in your country Armenia, in France sellers are under certain obligations before the customers, for example: they can't refuse to serve basic needs items like soap, condoms, cosmetics, refrigerators, etc. As for the Chanel bags I was going to buy, unfortunately, they can because they belong to the luxury segment. So no, he can't put deadbolts because he registered as a seller and owns a website that he must maintain in accordance with the French laws. And if we speak about that site in particular, the laws of Quebec, which aren't that different because they are an off-spring from France.

I strongly suggest you all simply ignore those dimwits. let their businesses go bankrupt. Enough of this nonsense. Recently, I was willing to spend several grands on a bag, yet I have problems with their site. I'll think twice now. And looks like they just lost a customer. In details. https://msfn.org/board/topic/186728-chanel-french-bags-website-err_http2_protocol_error-from-my-ip-blocked-from-vpn-too/

The owner of the website determines what level of "protection" is used, not Cloudflare. Cloudflare simply gives the tools to the owner.

This topic is designed to compare the overall performance of different computers with each other under Windows XP.

I am not always right. But a pure comparison of CPUs is not sufficient. Read here, for example, about the difference between SD-RAM and DDR2-RAM: https://www.transcend-info.com/support/faq-296#:~:text=DDR2 SDRAM(Double Data Rate,(double of DDR SDRAM). Maybe now you'll realise what I'm talking about. And apart from that, an Intel Pentium 4 is not the same as an Intel Pentium 4. There were different series like Willamette, Northwood, and Prescott. And within these series different FSB clock rates. So, forget about these comparison sites! The only way to compare our computers is doing the same test regarding all hardware components. P.S.: Due to my motherboard layout, there are several bottlenecks. Firstly, the extremely slow SD-RAM memory, then the very low bus clock rate and finally the AGP 4x interface, although my graphics card actually is an AGP 8x one.

Wow! The interest in Comodo security programmes seems to be huge.

SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition works absolutely fine here. No issues. No DLL problems. I can access all features. I think your system is the causer. You can alternatively try the installer version 10.0.1250 as this version was the one before incompatibilities with the programme appeared the first time. BTW, I have been using SUPERAntiSpyware since 2007 without any serious issues. So, please check your system first before posting issues one can't confirm!

Folks, please use only English words (or say Dutch, German, French words, but only those that are currently/officially used in English) Like "grab" (Dutch word), for example. The ones that can be found in English vocabularies!

Done! https://msfn.org/board/topic/186225-change-a-letter-game-part-ii/?do=findComment&comment=1266415

And now, disable Circular Kernel Context Logger and Audio logger. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger] "Status"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger\Audio] "Start"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger\Circular Kernel Context Logger] "Start"=dword:00000000

Glad that explains it, I do have the Segoe UI fonts installed on XP. I can't remember why.

Spar

Swab

Neither this browser, nor this topic are only limited to XP, I don't use XP (most of the time). Where do you get the stats about the "whole" world? Link to a reputable source, please.

Iguana

Reading. (town in Berkshire)

Knickerbocker Glory

FYI, my toggle buttons can easily be modified to switch other Boolean preferences. I explained it in the corresponding posts. TBH, there is nothing to be changed in the button's code. I think you rather mean changing the selected preferences which you want to control. This is to be done in the main user interface window of Pref Toggler via the button "Edit List". That's good to hear. Thanks for your feedback!

Did you also try different user agents on this website?

@dmiranda, @Ascii2 Do you still use custom buttons at all? This was actually my initial question. What do you think about custom buttons in general? And have you ever tried the Pref Toggler custom button or my modded version I recently presented here?

gpt.ini

Probably they implemented some anti-hack feature, in addition to limiting youtube's videos frequently posted by some members?

I fail to understand why do they all patch only the standard chrome, not ungoogled.