My Browser Builds (Part 6)

[AstroSkipper]

9 hours ago, j7n said:

It seems that Yahoo Mail have just switched to new, slow interface, which doesn't work anymore with New Moon, and tells me to update the browser. The simple/basic/classic mail, which was one of the two choices, is no longer accessible, and the modern one looks entirely new.

It has so many ads, holy crap. It uses the unblockable AdShield service I mentioned before from randomized domains.

The best would be to look for a new email provider! 

[j7n]

Mail kinda locks you in hard, because other website assume that mail is permanent and the ultimate identity. To log in somewhere, I may need to go to the e-mail and read a code, which is a problem if I no longer have that mail account. Yahoo worked as a good basic mail for a really long time in older browsers. They had a few changes over the years, but not this strong. For a while there were two mail options: basic and more complicated (still looked very plain white and flat). Now there are two refreshing banner ads, and it loads many resources from AdShield all the time to display those banners, more than two pictures.

[nicolaasjan]

Have you updated your uBlock Origin filters?

A week ago some new filters have been added to uBlock filters – Ads:

/shadow/*adshield$domain=mail.yahoo.com
/ybar/mail.yahoo.com/_t/aHR0c*$xhr,3p,domain=mail.yahoo.com

 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I created a new Yahoo account (via a throwaway Gmail account and not via a phone number).

Without any extensions whatsoever, I'm not seeing any ads.  None.  Can you screencap the ads on your end?  Why would you have ads but none for me with ZERO extensions installed?

[VistaLover]

11 hours ago, nicolaasjan said:

Have you updated your uBlock Origin filters?

@j7n are adamant on NOT using an extension-based adblocker (e.g. uBO) in the browser, because they harbour the conviction that such an extension would considerably impede their browser's performance ; in the past, both myself and other members here have suggested to them the installation and use of uBO, but they still think that their old ways of dealing with ads (blocking "known" ad-serving domains in their HOSTS file) is still sufficient/effective in the web-ecosystem of 2025+  ...

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Without any extensions whatsoever, I'm not seeing any ads. 

Is this on a UXP-based browser (the object of these megathreads) ? Because if you're talking about recent Chromium/Firefox, these now come with built-in ways of dealing with (some of the) unwanted content ...

Edited 4 hours ago by VistaLover

[NotHereToPlayGames]

2 hours ago, VistaLover said:

Is this on a UXP-based browser (the object of these megathreads) ?

Yes.  New Moon.  XP x86 VM (being a VM should *make no difference* in this discussion).

I can no longer "paste" screencaps into the post editor (this has been mentioned in other threads, directed at @xp... @trip...  @dave-h).

[NotHereToPlayGames]

1) posting on MSFN today is an outright NIGHTMARE

2) I spoke too soon, I logged back in and NOW (but not earlier) there is an EHARMONY ad at the very top and a banner on the right that rotates between a few different ads.

3) but even if I could paste a screencap, I kinda CAN'T because the eHarmony ad reveals my city (I wouldn't say I "hide", per se, but I prefer to limit my location to "midwest USA", not to my CITY).

Edited 1 hour ago by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

And you don't need something "heavy" like uBO to block.

Just a lightweight custom userstyle does the trick.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

2 hours ago, VistaLover said:

but they still think that their old ways of dealing with ads (blocking "known" ad-serving domains in their HOSTS file) is still sufficient/effective in the web-ecosystem of 2025+

"Good luck with that."  

[AstroSkipper]

New Moon, Serpent or Mypal are a nightmare without uBO. And the forum editor is a nightmare, anyways. I already again reported that some weeks ago. There have been many such reports in the past.

Edited 53 minutes ago by AstroSkipper

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I guess I agree and disagree both at the same time.

I use uBO.  Can't live without it!  And that goes for XP or 10 or anything in between.

And that goes for slow-as-sh#t UXP to fast-as-H#ll way better options available to those that "let go" of XP.

 

BUT...  I *hate* uBO in its current evolution.  I prefer the older versions.  But I *hate* them also.

I **LOVE** the MODIFIED version that I can not live without.

 

I see the side of anybody that doesn't want to use the current evolution !!!

And I don't expect them to be able to MODIFY it into something that the DO like.

We can't "force" them to use it if they have their own reasons, legit or not, to NOT use it.

BUT...  If they could at least tell us WHY, maybe we could "teach them" how to modify what they don't like 'out of it' and create something that they DO like.