List of new software unlocked by Second System

[TSNH]

On 10/30/2025 at 4:46 AM, EliraFriesnan said:

It doesn't fix Vista

Fix what?

Second System is not a fix

and

Vista (sp2) is not a broken operating system.

And if you are referring to Haswell patch, it's a completely different product just under the same subscription

[EliraFriesnan]

12 hours ago, TSNH said:

Fix what?

Second System is not a fix

and

Vista (sp2) is not a broken operating system.

And if you are referring to Haswell patch, it's a completely different product just under the same subscription

It's all very confusing since you made several topics, but all relating to just one paid, the same, subscription.

Yes, Vista is not a broken operating system.

And I'm referring to the Haswell patch, under the same subscription. But it doesn't fully work, you wrote yourself. 

So having no DRM isn't anything fantastic, DRM would simply fail. Looking at your testings, it's more like vapourware at this point.

 

[EliraFriesnan]

On 9/4/2025 at 8:37 PM, TSNH said:

Chromium Current version : Win10+ -> Vista+ (Including Google Chrome and other forks)

 

Is it normal Chrome, not Supermium? 

[TSNH]

12 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

Is it normal Chrome, not Supermium? 

Yes regular chromium without compatibility patches. Just tested Ungoogled Chromium 142.0.7444.58 and it works.

Google Chrome should work too (when installed somewhere else and copied over), but it's spyware (installer even more so) and I don't want to even test it.

[EliraFriesnan]

On 9/4/2025 at 8:37 PM, TSNH said:

Please consider supporting his amazing work

Why? The user @win32 you're referring to, has no contributions to MSFN, he silently deleted all of the Kernel creation instructions, abandoned MSFN years ago, nothing of his work is present here!

Used MSFN as a starting point to get fame and then make money, deleted everything and dumped MSFN as a used handkerchief, I'd say, it's a huge and fat spit not only at MSFN, but all us here.

See what he writes: "The original post was removed ... There will be further discussion about the evolution of the extended kernel in the coming pages."

But he lied, nothing new followed. The topic is now empty.

His account is useless, no valuable information, except the empty ego-boosting posts, most importantly, no longer maintained,

D'Draker had left everything intact, including his Nvidia tutorials, people still visit his account in tens of thousands of views, can be seen at the counter, in a huge contrast to win32's account.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/181612-wip-windows-vista-extended-kernel/

@Tripredacus, can the Kernel creation instructions be restored, and the offender punished?

And you, enough with the paid links, I don't see your contributions as well. Testings of the paid products you advertise here, and use MSFN for free, don't count.

 

 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

10 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

people still visit his account in tens of thousands of views, can be seen at the counter, in a huge contrast to win32's account

Feel free to discuss this with any of the moderators.  These counters are not seen the same by moderators as they are seen by userbase (myself included, admittedly).

There are folks (we all know who they are) that log in EVERY DAY to hunt down posts (sometimes even DECADES ago) in order to INFLATE these "views" and "counters".

But like I say, feel free to discuss with any of the moderators.

[TSNH]

13 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

Why? The user @win32 you're referring to, has no contributions to MSFN, he silently deleted all of the Kernel creation instructions, abandoned MSFN years ago, nothing of his work is present here!

Here are your instructions https://web.archive.org/web/20200730112455/https://msfn.org/board/topic/181612-wip-windows-vista-extended-kernel/

There were VERY limited and never actually that useful and were created at a time when @win32 barely knew himself how to create kernel extensions and what he was doing

Actually they were deleted long before @win32 left MSFN and maybe indeed to prevent confusion

13 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

But he lied, nothing new followed. The topic is now empty.

False, extended kernel releases followed

 

Maybe @win32 doesn't show up on MSFN because he doesn't like getting distracted on constant question "when will I be able to run X program on Windows Y",

when you have kernel extensions to do and real life things too, maybe there isn't much left for replying on forums.

It's common for people who get more famous than they expected to distant themselves from "followers" a bit, because at some point it becomes hard to handle

 

13 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

And you, enough with the paid links, I don't see your contributions as well. Testings of the paid products you advertise here, and use MSFN for free, don't count.

Well, you could find those paid products on the Internet and just install cause no DRM, but posting those here would violate MSFN rules and be very much wrong.

That being said the access to SecondSystem downloads is available to "Supermium support subscribers" and not "Second System subscribers" therefore idk sharing what exactly would be considered piracy and what wouldn't be, but anyway I think sharing Second System binaries on MSFN would still fall under 1b (it contains win32's own binaries) and be morally wrong. I'm not a lawyer

@win32 is i think trying to make a paid product but without annoying product key things and danger of no longer being legally available to buy once the dev decides to shut down the project (and it's not easy to figure out).

Just look at what happened to BigMuscle's AeroGlass as an example of what should be avoided.

 

 

So just calm down.

Edited 2 hours ago by TSNH

[TSNH]

There you go, I've removed the link to the patreon site and moved the tex reference down a bit,

I hope it'a a good middle ground and won't be interpreted as advertising something anymore

New wording: Second System can be found on win32's Patreon site | supporting his amazing work is possible there

Edited 3 hours ago by TSNH