r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8!

[Jody Thornton]

7 minutes ago, VistaLover said:

In closing, I'm not being entitled or ungrateful towards the r3dfox author; huge thanks  from my side for what he has offered to me over the last two years or so  ...

I COMPLETELY agree @VistaLover.  By the way, you really did a complete job in your above assessment.  I'm also grateful to what @K4sum1 gave us.  But I also need to look after my needs.  While I hate that we have a Google-fied web, I've stopped worrying about the implications of all of the privacy issues we face.  It's not that I disagree with the level of concern, but it's that we REALLY can do nothing about it.  I need to perform online banking, watch and help produce videos on YouTube, use WebRTC to voice traffic reports, and take part in Zoom meetings, Google Meet and Teams Meetings, and apply for work; all which basically NECESSITATES providing a good chunk of personal information to proceed.  I don't agree with the corporate tactics, but I must continue to function.

It was indeed K4Sum1's project, as Pale Moon was Moonchild's.  What I feel these visionary types (who admittedly deserve a lot of credit for their work), fail to realize is that those that make up their user base are CONSUMERS or CUSTOMERS.  Now Moonchild and his "moonie minions" VEHEMENTLY disagree with that.  But customers are not just defined as those providing monetary exchange to a company or corporation for a product.  They can be those who provide voluntary stake to a company, or mission.  So in this way, those who co-develop alongside Moonchild, those who provide add-ons, those who beta test, and YES even those who simply (and regularly) USE Pale Moon, are indeed customers and stakeholders.

When someone creates a project, and it attracts users to the resulting product, such as in K4Sum1's r3dFox, expectations begin to be developed.  No matter if these expectations are right or wrong for the userbase to behold, they are real, and the developer needs to contend with them.  Those are simply the facts.  K4Sum1 provided a way for me to use Windows 8 on an extended basis, and you become reliant on that. When K4Sum1 understandably says, "I'm just not feeling it", it doesn't incite a favourable response among the userbase.  Fair?  Perhaps not, but it's a very real sentiment.

@K4sum1, I genuinely hope you are OK.

[VistaLover]

8 hours ago, ED_Sln said:

The repository on GitHub is archived

... And un-archived now : 

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox